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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #4216
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    There's no trade out there that makes Cleveland "better" than what it is.


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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #4217
      2017 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
      There's no trade out there that makes Cleveland "better" than what it is.


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      Maybe not, but there are trades that make them better than that Phoenix trade would.

      Edit: By "better" in my previous post I'm talking about it making them better than the other trade would.


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      Last edited by ojandpizza; 08-06-2017, 09:47 PM.

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      • NDAlum
        ND
        • Jun 2010
        • 11453

        #4218
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        It would be great if they could just trade LeBron.

        I feel like LeBron is a lock to leave in a couple years. Is Kyrie somebody you could keep around due to the amount of money he can earn in Cleveland vs somewhere else? Or is he just fed up with the city? You could put him in that spot to make a decision about it.

        You could frame the trade as LeBron outgrowing the city and already proving everything he possibly needs to the city of Cleveland. He really can't accomplish anything else there, can he? I mean win a couple more titles which looks pretty unlikely.

        No idea what a hypothetical package for LeBron would be but I'm pretty sure you'd get 29 phone calls about it and the bidding war would be insane. LeBron instantly makes the new team a contender. Kyrie gets to be the leader of the Cavs. Cavs get multiple assets to build for the future with Kyrie.

        Why not?
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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #4219
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

          Doc Rivers (Clippers) and Mike Budenholzer (Hawks) have been stripped of their team presidencies, though both will remain coaches. That leaves Gregg Popovich (Spurs), Stan Van Gundy (Pistons) and Tom Thibodeau (Timberwolves) as the only remaining president-coaches.

          NBA commissioner Adam Silver probably doesn’t mind the reduction.

          Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN:

          Silver wasn’t necessarily against Rivers’ ascension to the top of the Clippers masthead, but the commissioner has privately expressed concerns to owners and senior franchise officials in several instances, case by case, about the dynamic of the coach-in-charge model, league sources said.

          Coaching an NBA team is a full-time job. Running an NBA front office is a full-time job. One person doing both invites trouble, especially when that person – like Rivers, Budenholzer, Van Gundy and Thibodeau* – brings a coach’s mindset and lacks front-office experience. Building a roster requires a more measured approach than coaching.

          *Popovich was San Antonio’s general manager before becoming its coach.

          There are advantages to one person holding both roles, namely an avoidance of internal conflict. Sometimes, general managers and coaches spar over decisions – the general manager upset that a player he likes isn’t playing enough, the coach upset about the players he has. That’s all avoided with one person in charge setting a direction for the franchise.

          The arrangement can obviously work. The Spurs are a model franchise, though part of that is based on Popovich empowering R.C. Buford. Likewise, teams with separate coaches and general managers frequently fail.

          The commonality: It seems Silver is not shy about making suggestions when he believes teams could be better run.
          Thoughts?


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          • Vni
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2011
            • 14833

            #4220
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            23 hasn't posted since Rivers was demoted from GM of the Clippers. Coincidence ?

            I must investigate.

            I'am gonna go to every bar of los angeles with his printed avatar and ask if anyone has any information or seen him recently. Pack you contact his family and try to get as much information as you can. I want to know what he ate Friday night. King, I want the list of his phone calls the last 72 hours. AlexBrady you just sit here and talk to us about David DeBusschere.

            Everyone report here when you're done. Let's, let's go, move it gentlemens.
            Last edited by Vni; 08-07-2017, 06:13 PM.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #4221
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by Vni
              23 hasn't posted since Rivers was demoted from GM of the Clippers. Coincidence ?

              I must investigate.

              I'am gonna go to every bar of los angeles with his printed avatar and ask if anyone has any information or seen him recently. Pack you contact his family and try to get as much information as you can. I want to know what he ate Friday night. King, I want the list of his phone calls the last 72 hours. AlexBrady you just sit here and talk to us about David DeBusschere.

              Everyone report here when you're done. Let's, let's go, move it gentlemens.
              Vni: don't mention OJ.
              OJ: you left me out. Here's a 124 page dossier on 23's whereabouts.
              Vni: I didn't want this.
              OJ: there's also a story about LeBron James somewhere in the middle.

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #4222
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                23 is Bron's number...


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                • Vni
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 14833

                  #4223
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by ojandpizza
                  Duplicate somehow. Need the option to delete posts.
                  6 years later he still doesn't know how to delete posts. There is a reason I didn't want to involve him in this tough investigation.

                  Plus oj you posted 16 thousands posts about how Bron is the goat and your overall is still at 0. You're glitched my friend.

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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #4224
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by Vni
                    6 years later he still doesn't know how to delete posts. There is a reason I didn't want to involve him in this tough investigation.

                    Plus oj you posted 16 thousands posts about how Bron is the goat and your overall is still at 0. You're glitched my friend.


                    How do you delete posts on Tapatalk?


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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #4225
                      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by ojandpizza
                      How do you delete posts on Tapatalk?


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                      You don't. You just live on in infamy with whatever you posted.


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                      • jeremym480
                        Speak it into existence
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 18198

                        #4226
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by ojandpizza
                        How do you delete posts on Tapatalk?


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                        - Click on post
                        - Open in Browser
                        - Select Post
                        - Edit
                        - Delete

                        I hope that helps.
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                        • TheShizNo1
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 26341

                          #4227
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Why can't you just click on the post and then the little tools in the upper right corner?

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                          • Boltman
                            L.A. to S.D. to HI
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 18283

                            #4228
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by ojandpizza
                            How do you delete posts on Tapatalk?


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                            • Black Bruce Wayne
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 1459

                              #4229
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              Would any of you give Zeke a Max contract?

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #4230
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                He's not getting one but it's nice to believe in things like dragons, fairies and max contracts to over 30 point guards in a league full of talented young point guards.

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                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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