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  • Vni
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2011
    • 14833

    #5146
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    PG said he woudn't be the first domino to fall anyway. Like if LBJ decides to go to L.A. then he would consider going too.

    But if we're garbage this year, Lonzo looks like he has a long way to go, Ingram hasn't progressed that much, then no one is coming, that's for sure.

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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #5147
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by Vni
      PG said he woudn't be the first domino to fall anyway. Like if LBJ decides to go to L.A. then he would consider going too.

      But if we're garbage this year, Lonzo looks like he has a long way to go, Ingram hasn't progressed that much, then no one is coming, that's for sure.
      The same applies.

      LeBron has done it all. Explain why he would go to the Lakers at the tail end of his career.

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      • Vni
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2011
        • 14833

        #5148
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
        The same applies.

        LeBron has done it all. Explain why he would go to the Lakers at the tail end of his career.
        LBJ is the man, that's the difference. And he likely would have planned it all before coming to L.A. anyway (if he thought the situation had a chance to work out)

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        • CaseIH
          MVP
          • Sep 2013
          • 3945

          #5149
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
          He's not going to the Lakers. Just like LeBron's not going to the Lakers.

          Been there, done that. 2010.

          As much flack as players get about wanting to get paid, believe it or not, some of them actually want to be in the playoffs.

          PG will be in his prime. Yet we want to believe he's going to opt out to go through rebuilding on a Laker team in the Western Conference basement?

          Nah.

          PG has made his intentions pretty darn clear where he wants to be, and thats to go home. Its where he told the Pacers he would like to be traded, I think thats about as clear as it can get. Obviously he isnt going to start the new season with his new team, talking about where he really wants to be,lol.
          Now with Lebron, I kind of think thats wishful thinking by Laker fans and media just spewing false news out, to stir up things. Lebron never really given any indication, other than having a home in LA, which what rich NBA players doesnt have a few different homes around the country,lol, that he plans to finish his career in LA. Only thing Lebron has ever really said was he intended to finish his career in Cleveland.
          Nothing would really surprise me with Lebron, but I would be shocked if PG passes up on being a Laker, considering what he has already stated about his desire to go home.
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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17874

            #5150
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
            He's not going to the Lakers. Just like LeBron's not going to the Lakers.

            Been there, done that. 2010.

            As much flack as players get about wanting to get paid, believe it or not, some of them actually want to be in the playoffs.

            PG will be in his prime. Yet we want to believe he's going to opt out to go through rebuilding on a Laker team in the Western Conference basement?

            Nah.
            In his prime, and he wants to be a contributor in WB's franchise? He goes to LA and it's his team.

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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #5151
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              PG going anywhere that’s “his team” probably isn’t going to give him much success in terms of trying to get a ring.


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              • wco81
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 3305

                #5152
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                If the Lakers win at least 35-40 games in the tough West and show improvement by their key young players, he could look at going there as putting them into the playoffs.

                If they don't progress, then he will either ring-chase or look to cash in.

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                • z Revis
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 13639

                  #5153
                  2017 Offseason Thread

                  Not sure why were saying now that PG isn’t going to LA when literally 3 months ago dude said he wanted to be traded there. He may be persuaded to stay in OKC but he clearly likes the idea of playing in his hometown no matter how good or bad the Lakers are.


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                  • dubcity
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • May 2012
                    • 17874

                    #5154
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    PG going anywhere that’s “his team” probably isn’t going to give him much success in terms of trying to get a ring.


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                    OKC/Lakers this year and next year have a 0% of winning a ring, so it's kind of irrelevant. Lakers offer youth, the unknown and the ability to elevate your brand.

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                    • bigeastbumrush
                      My Momma's Son
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19245

                      #5155
                      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by CaseIH
                      PG has made his intentions pretty darn clear where he wants to be, and thats to go home. Its where he told the Pacers he would like to be traded, I think thats about as clear as it can get. Obviously he isnt going to start the new season with his new team, talking about where he really wants to be,lol.
                      Now with Lebron, I kind of think thats wishful thinking by Laker fans and media just spewing false news out, to stir up things. Lebron never really given any indication, other than having a home in LA, which what rich NBA players doesnt have a few different homes around the country,lol, that he plans to finish his career in LA. Only thing Lebron has ever really said was he intended to finish his career in Cleveland.
                      Nothing would really surprise me with Lebron, but I would be shocked if PG passes up on being a Laker, considering what he has already stated about his desire to go home.
                      He said it to get out of Indy. That's all. And I think more players will do it (Anthony Davis comes to mind).


                      Originally posted by wco81
                      If the Lakers win at least 35-40 games in the tough West and show improvement by their key young players, he could look at going there as putting them into the playoffs.

                      If they don't progress, then he will either ring-chase or look to cash in.

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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #5156
                        2017 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by dubcity
                        OKC/Lakers this year and next year have a 0% of winning a ring, so it's kind of irrelevant. Lakers offer youth, the unknown and the ability to elevate your brand.


                        Maybe, it looks like 0% but anything can happen in the playoffs. You get Melo and PG blazing hot at the same time and Russ stringing together a few “good Russ” games in a row and they can beat anyone.

                        One thing is for certain either way, Russ gives you a better shot than Lonzo Ball.

                        My argument wasn’t really to say that he had a chance at winning a ring with OKC. But more-so that going to LAL to be “the guy” isn’t going to win him anything. He’s been “the guy” already. He’s saw that it takes more pieces than just him to be even remotely successful. He just had the best playoff series of his life only to get swept. Surely he doesn’t want to go to LAL and repeat that for the next 5 years.

                        Now if he wants to be in LAL just to be there, I could understand that. But not to be the man, that doesn’t get him anywhere and I’m sure he knows that.


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                        • CaseIH
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 3945

                          #5157
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                          He said it to get out of Indy. That's all. And I think more players will do it (Anthony Davis comes to mind).





                          Not sure why you would think he would make something like that up, to get out of Indy, by all accounts PG was happy in Indy. If he just wanted out, he wouldnt have said he would like to be traded to the Lakers.

                          Now could he change his mind, if things go well this yr, and say somehow get to the WCF, then, who knows. Its pretty ridiculous to say he just made up his desire to be traded to the Lakers, unless you happen to know him, and he told you that,lol.

                          Magic is in charge of the Lakers now, and while they likely wont be making the playoffs this yr, they are young, and there is talent. They also have a good coach, never was a fan of Walton as a player, but always thought he would likley make a good HC if he ever chose to go that route. You add a couple all star caliber players to that young team, it wont be long before they are a force to be reckoned with. With Magic in charge, you can bet Lakers will be a top destination for top players.
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                          • CaseIH
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 3945

                            #5158
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by ojandpizza
                            Maybe, it looks like 0% but anything can happen in the playoffs. You get Melo and PG blazing hot at the same time and Russ stringing together a few “good Russ” games in a row and they can beat anyone.

                            One thing is for certain either way, Russ gives you a better shot than Lonzo Ball.

                            My argument wasn’t really to say that he had a chance at winning a ring with OKC. But more-so that going to LAL to be “the guy” isn’t going to win him anything. He’s been “the guy” already. He’s saw that it takes more pieces than just him to be even remotely successful. He just had the best playoff series of his life only to get swept. Surely he doesn’t want to go to LAL and repeat that for the next 5 years.

                            Now if he wants to be in LAL just to be there, I could understand that. But not to be the man, that doesn’t get him anywhere and I’m sure he knows that.


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                            I agree, OKC will be a tough team to beat, granted they aint beating a healthy Warriors team, but you add a player like PG to pair along side Russ, and Melo is able to fit in, and turn back the clock so to speak a little, they could be a potent offensive team. Not sure how they will be on defense, PG cant guard his guy plus Russ's and Melo's too,lol, but offensively they could be very good.
                            It all will depend on Russ not jacking up stupid shots, as he did that at times, when Durant was there, and then the 2 would start playing hero ball, which is what always doomed them. We know Melo is ball stopper, and to be quite frank, so is PG at times. So just like Houston with Paul and Harden, it will be interesting to see how Russ,PG, and Melo play together and build chemistry.

                            I agree mostly with your comment of PG being the man, wont get a team to a championship, but he sure does make a team a heck of a lot better, and if he is paired up with another all star caliber player and you have solid role players, PG could be the 1st option.
                            He got the Pacers to the playoffs these last 2 yrs, with not much talent around him at all.

                            I dont know if its so much being the face of a franchise PG is concerned about, he was after all the face of the Pacers. Obviously he wants to be on a team that is capable of getting to the finals, but I think with Magic now running the Lakers, it also being home for him, and seeing some young and promising talent that it would take a awful lot for him to pass up going home to LA.

                            I dont think he leaves Pacers if Coach Vogel for one was still there, and them trading George Hill, who was PG's best friend on the team, didnt sit with to well with PG. That and I wonder if the whole not wanting to play PF, bothered him. Also Bird had made a comment that he thought Miles Turner has the talent to be 1 of the best Pacers ever, possibly could have rubbed him the wrong way. hard telling about this younger generation and what goes thru their mind.
                            Thru the years, while Indy has never been a destination for top talent in their prime wanting to play there, we typically had always been able to keep the talent that we had drafted or traded for. I know is a different mind set these kids have now days, so times have changed, so I wonder if there was something that didnt sit well with PG, and why he wanted to leave, obviously he misses home, and why he wanted to be traded to LA, but I think it had to be more than just wanting to go home. JMO

                            It would be kind of funny if PG ended up not going to LA and either staying with OKC or going elsewhere, since the Lakers were fined for tampering, and them betting on PG signing with them after this yr, so they decided not to trade for him. I would die laughing, if that happened, them being so confident they will get him, it would deserve them right with there arrogance and greed of not wanting to give up any talent to get him, thinking he will just fall in their lap
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                            NBA- Pacers
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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #5159
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              Dubcity is just in hate mode with every move not made by Golden State.

                              OKC or Cleveland or Houston could get Anthony Davis for a 2nd rd pick and he'd still be like "That pick is more valuable than Davis".
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #5160
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                I know his play type is a dying one....but I'm a but surprised NOBODY wants Monta Ellis

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