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  • Gilley
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    • Jun 2012
    • 634

    #1411
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    If Phil actually goes through with this BS, it might just be the last straw for me. The fact that these trade conversations are even being had is utterly stupid.
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    • redsox4evur
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2013
      • 18169

      #1412
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Cap number is $99M next season, down from the $102m that was projected earlier.
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      • Majingir
        Moderator
        • Apr 2005
        • 47512

        #1413
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by 23
        Just said it on The Jump



        I'd tell David West PEACE!!
        I hope it happens. Would be nice way to go out. NBA Champs, on team that drafted you but traded you on draft night, and playing with the son of an old teammate who you knew since those days.

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        • wco81
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3305

          #1414
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by redsox4evur
          Cap number is $99M next season, down from the $102m that was projected earlier.
          So NBA is going to want more 6 or 7 games playoff series.

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          • z Revis
            Hall Of Fame
            • Oct 2008
            • 13639

            #1415
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            I told people to put some respek on Woj's name when he mentioned this the other day.


            Phil said "You won't disrespect me and play on me team".

            This is amazing.


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            To me that just sounds like "well we love the guy, but if we can bring in the next LeBron James and a top 4 pick with it why not??"

            I think he's listening to offers out of pure curiosity because teams are calling, but unless Boston throws the house at them and they can make it a 3 team trade and land a proven young guy like Booker in the deal with it then nothing is going to happen.

            But it's the Knicks so..


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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #1416
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Do y'all really think getting a top 4 pick for Poringod is a bad move by Phil? Especially if he gets back future assets as well? Y'all act like this dude is an All NBA player or something.


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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #1417
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by illwill10
                "The Vertical‏

                Knicks have made calls about Kristaps Porzingis, aiming for a top-four pick to get Josh Jackson. - @WojVerticalNBA
                "

                I think Josh Jackson could be a good player if he can improve his offense and become a two-way player. But no way I would trade Porzingis for him. Porzingis can do it all at a high level and hasn't even gotten the chance to be a #1 option playing with Melo. That would be immense pressure for Josh Jackson to be a superstar in NY right away.


                Why would their be pressure to be a super star right away if KP isn't a superstar? I don't understand the overblowing of his game right now.

                Y'all can even go back and check, I've been on the Porzingod bandwagon the past two seasons and talked him up in the game threads nearly every time I've watched him play... but this is going overboard, people are acting like this dude is untouchable when he hasn't even proven that he's made the jump to an all star level player, much less superstar or franchise altering status.


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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #1418
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by ojandpizza
                  Do y'all really think getting a top 4 pick for Poringod is a bad move by Phil? Especially if he gets back future assets as well? Y'all act like this dude is an All NBA player or something.


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                  He does have All-NBA potential though. Bron, Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan ain't gonna be making All-NBA teams forever.


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                  • cabra1
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 1055

                    #1419
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    Do y'all really think getting a top 4 pick for Poringod is a bad move by Phil? Especially if he gets back future assets as well? Y'all act like this dude is an All NBA player or something.


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                    I mean he's been pretty good and he's 22. It's not crazy to think he will get to all-NBA level. Or at least all-star level. And if it's just to get into the top 4 to get Jackson like the reports are saying, I can definitely see why Knick fans would be upset. Seems very high risk/eh reward to me.

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #1420
                      2017 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                      He does have All-NBA potential though. Bron, Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan ain't gonna be making All-NBA teams forever.


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                      "Potential", so do Jackson, Tatum, Fox, Smith...

                      He's not even at a Karl Towns level, much less AD or something. I'm sure he could make a couple All NBA squads at some point, but he's not untouchable, he hasn't shown anything as of yet that he can be an untouchable type of guy.


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                      • JazzMan
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                        • Feb 2012
                        • 13547

                        #1421
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by redsox4evur
                        Cap number is $99M next season, down from the $102m that was projected earlier.
                        This could be big. Makes it harder for Boston and San Antonio to offer a max.

                        Hayward (and Hill) could be staying. Consequently this might mean Ingles is gone, unless we want to go into the luxury tax.

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                        • redsox4evur
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 18169

                          #1422
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by JazzMan
                          This could be big. Makes it harder for Boston and San Antonio to offer a max.

                          Hayward (and Hill) could be staying. Consequently this might mean Ingles is gone, unless we want to go into the luxury tax.

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                          Some beg to differ, when it comes to Boston. I think I saw we only needed something around $4M for a max slot after the $99m cap number came it. So we would still only have to trade Crowder/Bradley.




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                          • lilteapot
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 4550

                            #1423
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            I'm so done with Phil Jackson.

                            The worst thing is, Dolan is so absent-minded, that he couldn't care less what Phil Jackson does to screw over the team.

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                            • cabra1
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 1055

                              #1424
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by ojandpizza
                              "Potential", so do Jackson, Tatum, Fox, Smith...

                              He's not even at a Karl Towns level, much less AD or something. I'm sure he could make a couple All NBA squads at some point, but he's not untouchable, he hasn't shown anything as of yet that he can be an untouchable type of guy.


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                              All those guys have potential to be complete busts too tho, which obviously KP isn't. It's the going from a known commodity (which is also a very good one), to a complete unknown that's probably unsettling folks.

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                              • JazzMan
                                SOLDIER, First Class...
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 13547

                                #1425
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                                Some beg to differ, when it comes to Boston. I think I saw we only needed something around $4M for a max slot after the $99m cap number came it. So we would still only have to trade Crowder/Bradley.




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                                It changes the max contract now though. Before the change I think the difference in signing in Boston was only like $3M if I remember right. Now it's $6M.



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