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  • ludacris06
    Banned
    • Sep 2003
    • 1527

    #76
    Re: ben wallace something people should know...

    Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
    And you know that how?
    Ron Artest was asking for it when he jumped into the stands. Ben Wallce was just angry because he felt that the foul wasn't needed. You didn't see him trying to jump into the stands going after Artest did you?

    Both players were wrong, but when you jump into the stands to hit someone, you will start a big mess.

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    • ludacris06
      Banned
      • Sep 2003
      • 1527

      #77
      Re: ben wallace something people should know...

      Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
      And you know that how?
      Ron Artest was asking for it when he jumped into the stands. Ben Wallce was just angry because he felt that the foul wasn't needed. You didn't see him trying to jump into the stands going after Artest did you?

      Both players were wrong, but when you jump into the stands to hit someone, you will start a big mess.

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      • Vince
        Bow for Bau
        • Aug 2002
        • 26017

        #78
        Re: ben wallace something people should know...

        So I guess when Wallce was giving Ronny that choke hold, he didn't expect something to happen...Ronny did well by staying calm and not retaliating,but I think when he got the beer thrown at him , he was like:"I stands what i can stands, and now I stand it no more". Eventually all hell broke lose.
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        • Vince
          Bow for Bau
          • Aug 2002
          • 26017

          #79
          Re: ben wallace something people should know...

          So I guess when Wallce was giving Ronny that choke hold, he didn't expect something to happen...Ronny did well by staying calm and not retaliating,but I think when he got the beer thrown at him , he was like:"I stands what i can stands, and now I stand it no more". Eventually all hell broke lose.
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          • MK47
            Rookie
            • Sep 2004
            • 348

            #80
            Re: ben wallace something people should know...

            There is blame to go around, but most behavior occured pretty much within known parameters of behavior in pro sports, you have Ben Wallace angry after a hard foul and shoving Artest around, that happens a lot in sports and the NBA in general, thats nothing you will hear much or see much written about. The ref seperates them, Artest lays down on the scorer table and takes the headset and talks and jokes to the Pacers radio guy, now that is unusual behavior already and in the situation is likely to enflame an already frustrated arena.

            Okay but thats nothing outrageous yet, we just see that Artest isnt exactly helping matters. Then a fan throws a plastic cup at Artest which is not nice and certainly unusual as in it wont happen in every game but still not unheard of and in some sports like baseball not that uncommon either. Now lets look at where we are at this moment. Artest is not hurt or injured, he is not all soaked in beer either, he still is on the scorers table where he a minute earlier just joked around with a radio personality (so much to heat of the moment). And now hit by a relatively soft object, Artest freaks out and runs into the crowd to exert punishment for the thrown plastic cup.

            What I am trying to say is that you had an angry emotional athlete who engages in some shoving and pushing with an opponent and an unruly angry crowd engaging in classless behavior, neither is desirable or something to be proud of, but neither story would dominate Sportscenter for a few days would it? However the Pacers going into the stands to fight the unruly fans, thats the outrageous, the "OMG DID I JUST SEE THAT?" part. Thats the part that goes beyond the parameters of regular behavior in sports events.

            We have all been at sports events where fans have thrown objects on the field of play, we have all seen shoving and pushing between angry players, its nothing that would keep you up till 4 am to argue about, nothing that gets NBA commentators to act all sombre a day afterwards, but I cant say I have personally witnessed a player running into the stands to fight fans. I have seen footage from such fights in the NHL of the 70s but thats already 30 years ago and the NBA is a bit of a different matter due to the fact that basketball isnt as physical a game as hockey. (I was actually taught in school by my coach that basketball is a "non-physical" game, yeah he was just a bit old-fashioned)
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            • MK47
              Rookie
              • Sep 2004
              • 348

              #81
              Re: ben wallace something people should know...

              There is blame to go around, but most behavior occured pretty much within known parameters of behavior in pro sports, you have Ben Wallace angry after a hard foul and shoving Artest around, that happens a lot in sports and the NBA in general, thats nothing you will hear much or see much written about. The ref seperates them, Artest lays down on the scorer table and takes the headset and talks and jokes to the Pacers radio guy, now that is unusual behavior already and in the situation is likely to enflame an already frustrated arena.

              Okay but thats nothing outrageous yet, we just see that Artest isnt exactly helping matters. Then a fan throws a plastic cup at Artest which is not nice and certainly unusual as in it wont happen in every game but still not unheard of and in some sports like baseball not that uncommon either. Now lets look at where we are at this moment. Artest is not hurt or injured, he is not all soaked in beer either, he still is on the scorers table where he a minute earlier just joked around with a radio personality (so much to heat of the moment). And now hit by a relatively soft object, Artest freaks out and runs into the crowd to exert punishment for the thrown plastic cup.

              What I am trying to say is that you had an angry emotional athlete who engages in some shoving and pushing with an opponent and an unruly angry crowd engaging in classless behavior, neither is desirable or something to be proud of, but neither story would dominate Sportscenter for a few days would it? However the Pacers going into the stands to fight the unruly fans, thats the outrageous, the "OMG DID I JUST SEE THAT?" part. Thats the part that goes beyond the parameters of regular behavior in sports events.

              We have all been at sports events where fans have thrown objects on the field of play, we have all seen shoving and pushing between angry players, its nothing that would keep you up till 4 am to argue about, nothing that gets NBA commentators to act all sombre a day afterwards, but I cant say I have personally witnessed a player running into the stands to fight fans. I have seen footage from such fights in the NHL of the 70s but thats already 30 years ago and the NBA is a bit of a different matter due to the fact that basketball isnt as physical a game as hockey. (I was actually taught in school by my coach that basketball is a "non-physical" game, yeah he was just a bit old-fashioned)
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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #82
                Re: ben wallace something people should know...

                Originally posted by MK47
                There is blame to go around, but most behavior occured pretty much within known parameters of behavior in pro sports, you have Ben Wallace angry after a hard foul and shoving Artest around, that happens a lot in sports and the NBA in general, thats nothing you will hear much or see much written about. The ref seperates them, Artest lays down on the scorer table and takes the headset and talks and jokes to the Pacers radio guy, now that is unusual behavior already and in the situation is likely to enflame an already frustrated arena.

                Okay but thats nothing outrageous yet, we just see that Artest isnt exactly helping matters. Then a fan throws a plastic cup at Artest which is not nice and certainly unusual as in it wont happen in every game but still not unheard of and in some sports like baseball not that uncommon either. Now lets look at where we are at this moment. Artest is not hurt or injured, he is not all soaked in beer either, he still is on the scorers table where he a minute earlier just joked around with a radio personality (so much to heat of the moment). And now hit by a relatively soft object, Artest freaks out and runs into the crowd to exert punishment for the thrown plastic cup.

                What I am trying to say is that you had an angry emotional athlete who engages in some shoving and pushing with an opponent and an unruly angry crowd engaging in classless behavior, neither is desirable or something to be proud of, but neither story would dominate Sportscenter for a few days would it? However the Pacers going into the stands to fight the unruly fans, thats the outrageous, the "OMG DID I JUST SEE THAT?" part. Thats the part that goes beyond the parameters of regular behavior in sports events.

                We have all been at sports events where fans have thrown objects on the field of play, we have all seen shoving and pushing between angry players, its nothing that would keep you up till 4 am to argue about, nothing that gets NBA commentators to act all sombre a day afterwards, but I cant say I have personally witnessed a player running into the stands to fight fans. I have seen footage from such fights in the NHL of the 70s but thats already 30 years ago and the NBA is a bit of a different matter due to the fact that basketball isnt as physical a game as hockey. (I was actually taught in school by my coach that basketball is a "non-physical" game, yeah he was just a bit old-fashioned)
                .
                And yet it still comes back to, had idiot Piston fan not thrown something, this would be a non-issue.. Sorry but there is no justification for that behavior. Not that there is for Artest. But Wallace and Pistons fan are just as much to blame as anyone else.
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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71582

                  #83
                  Re: ben wallace something people should know...

                  Originally posted by MK47
                  There is blame to go around, but most behavior occured pretty much within known parameters of behavior in pro sports, you have Ben Wallace angry after a hard foul and shoving Artest around, that happens a lot in sports and the NBA in general, thats nothing you will hear much or see much written about. The ref seperates them, Artest lays down on the scorer table and takes the headset and talks and jokes to the Pacers radio guy, now that is unusual behavior already and in the situation is likely to enflame an already frustrated arena.

                  Okay but thats nothing outrageous yet, we just see that Artest isnt exactly helping matters. Then a fan throws a plastic cup at Artest which is not nice and certainly unusual as in it wont happen in every game but still not unheard of and in some sports like baseball not that uncommon either. Now lets look at where we are at this moment. Artest is not hurt or injured, he is not all soaked in beer either, he still is on the scorers table where he a minute earlier just joked around with a radio personality (so much to heat of the moment). And now hit by a relatively soft object, Artest freaks out and runs into the crowd to exert punishment for the thrown plastic cup.

                  What I am trying to say is that you had an angry emotional athlete who engages in some shoving and pushing with an opponent and an unruly angry crowd engaging in classless behavior, neither is desirable or something to be proud of, but neither story would dominate Sportscenter for a few days would it? However the Pacers going into the stands to fight the unruly fans, thats the outrageous, the "OMG DID I JUST SEE THAT?" part. Thats the part that goes beyond the parameters of regular behavior in sports events.

                  We have all been at sports events where fans have thrown objects on the field of play, we have all seen shoving and pushing between angry players, its nothing that would keep you up till 4 am to argue about, nothing that gets NBA commentators to act all sombre a day afterwards, but I cant say I have personally witnessed a player running into the stands to fight fans. I have seen footage from such fights in the NHL of the 70s but thats already 30 years ago and the NBA is a bit of a different matter due to the fact that basketball isnt as physical a game as hockey. (I was actually taught in school by my coach that basketball is a "non-physical" game, yeah he was just a bit old-fashioned)
                  .
                  And yet it still comes back to, had idiot Piston fan not thrown something, this would be a non-issue.. Sorry but there is no justification for that behavior. Not that there is for Artest. But Wallace and Pistons fan are just as much to blame as anyone else.
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                  • SoMiss2000
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 20499

                    #84
                    Re: ben wallace something people should know...

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    And yet it still comes back to, had idiot Piston fan not thrown something, this would be a non-issue.. Sorry but there is no justification for that behavior. Not that there is for Artest. But Wallace and Pistons fan are just as much to blame as anyone else.
                    exactly! I blame the fan, completely.
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                    • SoMiss2000
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 20499

                      #85
                      Re: ben wallace something people should know...

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      And yet it still comes back to, had idiot Piston fan not thrown something, this would be a non-issue.. Sorry but there is no justification for that behavior. Not that there is for Artest. But Wallace and Pistons fan are just as much to blame as anyone else.
                      exactly! I blame the fan, completely.
                      "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                      Check out www.sliderset.net



                      Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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                      • BOSsTOwN
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 788

                        #86
                        Re: ben wallace something people should know...

                        Originally posted by navarre
                        I am a 30+ male of color. Ron Artest is a out and out thug, along with Iverson, along with stepen jackson, along with carmelo anthony, etc.. These guys just don't get it. They will make more $$ .

                        ok my brother. ...how are they thugs...i can see this situation for calling artest one but. what about AI and Carmello..please explain how are they thugs...is it b/c they dress acertain way..please explain.

                        you prob think im a thug too b/c how i dress and talk ..but im a junior in a great school majoring in comp. engr
                        "This game, and series, has nothing but contempt for you (now)"

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                        • BOSsTOwN
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 788

                          #87
                          Re: ben wallace something people should know...

                          Originally posted by navarre
                          I am a 30+ male of color. Ron Artest is a out and out thug, along with Iverson, along with stepen jackson, along with carmelo anthony, etc.. These guys just don't get it. They will make more $$ .

                          ok my brother. ...how are they thugs...i can see this situation for calling artest one but. what about AI and Carmello..please explain how are they thugs...is it b/c they dress acertain way..please explain.

                          you prob think im a thug too b/c how i dress and talk ..but im a junior in a great school majoring in comp. engr
                          "This game, and series, has nothing but contempt for you (now)"

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