2018 Off-Season Thread

[georgiafan]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

A reminder cavs pick next year belongs to the hawks for the korver trade the interesting part going forward is that it’s top 10 protected for the next 2 years. If it’s not been conveyed by 2020 it will be 2 2 round picks

[legendkiller5]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Assuming Houston misses out on the LeBron sweepstakes, thoughts on PG replacing Ariza?


(And yeah, assuming him going to LA is not a lock)

[lilteapot]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Assuming Houston missed out on the LeBron sweepstakes, thoughts on PG replacing Ariza?


(And yeah, not assuming him going to LA is a lock)

Not a huge PG fan but I don't think he would go as cold as Ariza did in that Warriors series. Plus he's obviously the better player so I think he could put them over the edge.

[georgiafan]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Rumor suns want to trade back into the top 10 for trae young.... so I guess they trade 16 and take on a bad contract

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

I thought Capela was a huge part of the Rockets regular season and post season success, but really didn’t have that much impact in the GS series. I think it would be worth it for them to sign and trade him or move along for someone like PG if possible.

If their mission really is just to beat GS, having someone like PG that series instead of Ariza could have pushed them over the top as close as they played them already.


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[ojandpizza]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Rumor suns want to trade back into the top 10 for trae young.... so I guess they trade 16 and take on a bad contract

Trae, Booker, Jackson, Warren, Ayton

That’s a pretty nasty young lineup. Just have to hope Trae and Booker can develop some defensively.


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[rdnk]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

I'm interested to see how this new young Cavs group plays + Love after LeBron..any chance they play with much more confidence, without the added pressure of playing with Lebron? I still think they have talent no matter how badly some of that talent played this year.

Also if Lue is still the head coach next season, maybe we finally see if he's a real NBA coach.

Sans LeBron, they probably trade Love and Korver. Then, they spend the next two years waiting out the bad contracts. In the East, they're probably around the 10-11 seed for those two seasons. Cavs will likely look to contend again in 2020-2021.

[RedSceptile]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

We don't need too and shouldn't for that matter get rid of Capella, he was pretty much the second most important (not second best player) on our roster all season along with what Chris Paul brought. The main thing we need to do is see if we can find a way to get rid of Rhino which while I love the guy, makes far too much and was all but unplayable during the post season. We need Capela to continue to be our rim runner and protector like he has, all while continuing to improve (if he could hit free throws at even a low 70s/high 60s rate man...). If he gets better defensively which I believe he will and we can flip Rhino and get a young backup PG and a wing/big man this would be a great off season.

[Mr B]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

We don't need too and shouldn't for that matter get rid of Capella, he was pretty much the second most important (not second best player) on our roster all season along with what Chris Paul brought. The main thing we need to do is see if we can find a way to get rid of Rhino which while I love the guy, makes far too much and was all but unplayable during the post season. We need Capela to continue to be our rim runner and protector like he has, all while continuing to improve (if he could hit free throws at even a low 70s/high 60s rate man...). If he gets better defensively which I believe he will and we can flip Rhino and get a young backup PG and a wing/big man this would be a great off season.

What kind of contract do you expect Capela will command? Will the Rockets be able to afford it after paying Chris Paul the super max? What if they also make Paul George an offer? Will Capela turn down a near max offer from another team while waiting to see if Paul George will accept a Rockets offer?

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Itd be a shame if the Rockets couldn't keep that team relatively intact....they had some real chemistry..

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[ojandpizza]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

We don't need too and shouldn't for that matter get rid of Capella, he was pretty much the second most important (not second best player) on our roster all season along with what Chris Paul brought. The main thing we need to do is see if we can find a way to get rid of Rhino which while I love the guy, makes far too much and was all but unplayable during the post season. We need Capela to continue to be our rim runner and protector like he has, all while continuing to improve (if he could hit free throws at even a low 70s/high 60s rate man...). If he gets better defensively which I believe he will and we can flip Rhino and get a young backup PG and a wing/big man this would be a great off season.

While I agree with all of this, I’m not sure it still wouldn’t be better to upgrade elsewhere even at the expense of losing Capela to beat Golden State. If they pay Capela big they won’t make significant upgrades elsewhere. And just an extra piece off the bench likely doesn’t push them past GS next year considering GS will definitely be retooling this offseason as well. And even longer term, GS is younger than Houston so it’s not like they can wait them out.

In a hypothetical world, do you lose both of those last two games this year with Paul George instead of Ariza if whoever you replace Capela with can still get up and down the court like him? PG would have given you guys someone who could attack other than just Harden, and even if he did take a ton of threes he’s not going 2 for 18 like Ariza did.


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[SPTO]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Ahhh poop...Jerry Stackhouse has joined the Grizzlies coaching staff.

As for the Raptors...The finalists aren't exactly making me jump for joy. A couple Spurs assistants, Nick Nurse, and some euro league coach.


"sigh"

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Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Itd be a shame if the Rockets couldn't keep that team relatively intact....they had some real chemistry..

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Can you imagine paying Chris Paul 47 million at age 38?

He didnt fight for more pay in the CBA for nothing.

Rockets dont make him happy theyre gonna be sorry when dealing with future free agents. You can't just con the players association president.

Also Capela is crucial to their success. He's a big part of their defense if nothing else.

[jfsolo]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

I think the SuperMax contracts may eventually be the number one cause for another lock out.

[Majingir]

Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Ahhh poop...Jerry Stackhouse has joined the Grizzlies coaching staff.

As for the Raptors...The finalists aren't exactly making me jump for joy. A couple Spurs assistants, Nick Nurse, and some euro league coach.
"sigh"

Messina is one of those guys that seems to be on the "assistants who'll be a head coach one day" list. Being with Spurs for past 4 seasons and having success in Europe as well, he wouldn't be a bad option. Sounds like he could actually be the leading candidate at this point. And he was a guy the Raptors were looking at before they even hired Casey.

And that euro league coach seems to be one of the big time guys in European basketball history. Popovich even wanted him to coach the Spurs summer league team this past season(and who knows, that might have even lead to an assistant coaching job in the future) but he turned it down (I think it was either due to personal reasons or prior commitments)


Regardless who the coach will be, obviously roster changes will need to be made. Not something small like new depth pieces to "space out the floor" or any of that. They need legit changes in starting lineup. Unfortunately, doesn't seem like it'd be possible to deal the guys who'd need to be dealt(Lowry/Ibaka)