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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #256
    Re: NBA Draft 2019

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    I would agree with this, I’m just not sure I agree with it translating to the next level. Coby can get his own shot, but so can nearly everyone else in the NBA. If Jones can turn into a Pat Beverly type with his defensive motor, and White tops out as a JR Smith type, Tre is going to be the more valuable NBA player.. not to mention Tre just works hard, does his job, doesn’t matter if he’s the 5th option on the floor. Which is something I’m not sure we’ll see with White.

    I wouldn’t draft either of them in the top 10. But Tre would at least intrigue me once it got to the point where all the “sure things” were off the board. You can never go wrong with a plus level defensive guard off your bench.. see Delly a few years back, likely one of the worst players in the league providing value in a finals series against Steph Curry.

    I don’t know if many teams reach to take a scorer like Coby unless they just desperately need a scorer or think he can turn into some Booker/Beal type of scoring threat.


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    I see Tre in a TJ McConnell/Dell mold. It's hard to coach effort. Even though TJ was a second rounder.

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    I think Cam, and Knox for that matter, will eventually be ok.. I think both are substantially better than a player like James Young, which is why he’s not in the league. I don’t see that future for them.

    “Open” shots or not there is something to be said about going from a high volume, high usage player to someone who doesn’t get a lot of touches. We see a lot of rookies go through that, and Cam is similar while playing at Duke. I think it’s something he’ll have to grow and adjust to. I think he’s likely a much better scorer/shooter than he’s shown here in year 1.

    Definitely not a top 5 pick like projected before the season. But I do think he’s still a first round pick. And I do think he would probably still be a lottery guy seeing him on a team where he was “the guy”. To me, his positioning in the draft will determine what teams see from him in his draft workouts.


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    That's what I'm saying. I'm going to posting some of Cam bad and good shots tomorrow.

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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #257
      Re: NBA Draft 2019

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      I think Cam, and Knox for that matter, will eventually be ok.. I think both are substantially better than a player like James Young, which is why he’s not in the league. I don’t see that future for them.

      “Open” shots or not there is something to be said about going from a high volume, high usage player to someone who doesn’t get a lot of touches. We see a lot of rookies go through that, and Cam is similar while playing at Duke. I think it’s something he’ll have to grow and adjust to. I think he’s likely a much better scorer/shooter than he’s shown here in year 1.

      Definitely not a top 5 pick like projected before the season. But I do think he’s still a first round pick. And I do think he would probably still be a lottery guy seeing him on a team where he was “the guy”. To me, his positioning in the draft will determine what teams see from him in his draft workouts.


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      One more thing about James Young... Man that name made me go look up where he is right now. I was completely shocked to see he is only 23 years old. OMG... Last thing I see is he was wavied by the Wisconsin Herd (via WIKI). Last time in the league was with the Sixers on a two way contract.
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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #258
        Re: NBA Draft 2019

        Originally posted by jeebs9
        One more thing about James Young... Man that name made me go look up where he is right now. I was completely shocked to see he is only 23 years old. OMG... Last thing I see is he was wavied by the Wisconsin Herd (via WIKI). Last time in the league was with the Sixers on a two way contract.
        Yeah, I wasn't really expecting a whole lot from him or the Harrison brothers.. Kinda shocked to see them all basically out of the league though. I think Andrew at least still competes for roster spots, but that's about it.

        Young at least looked intriguing with some potential.. I didn't even think the Harrison twins looked good back in High School. I remember when I first heard they were both up around the top 5 or so in their recruiting class. I honestly couldn't believe it.

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #259
          Re: NBA Draft 2019

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          Yeah, I wasn't really expecting a whole lot from him or the Harrison brothers.. Kinda shocked to see them all basically out of the league though. I think Andrew at least still competes for roster spots, but that's about it.

          Young at least looked intriguing with some potential.. I didn't even think the Harrison twins looked good back in High School. I remember when I first heard they were both up around the top 5 or so in their recruiting class. I honestly couldn't believe it.
          Totally forgot about them. I thought one of the Harrison brothers was actually good. Both got turned into SG's.

          I want to show this play from Duke vs FSU. It doesn't show up in the stats besides a dunk for Barrett. But it just shows the effect Zion has on a game. I've seen him do this before. But I'd be all over my players if they let this happen. I don't know if this is by design. Or coach K just lets them figure it out. But they pull these traps out of no where. Zion is so quick or fast and big. Ball handlers are like "****! Here he comes! GET RID OF THE BALL"

          Zion ball pressure
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          A lot of people early on were like Zion got no skill. Unlike a Ben Simmon who once said I don't need a jumper. Because I'm unstoppable down there. Zion clearly works on his game. Look at this Elbow play.

          Zion mid jumper
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          I hope he makes it to the league in one piece.
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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #260
            Re: NBA Draft 2019

            I can't wait to see Ja Morant on a big stage. I want to see what he comes up with
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            • ehh
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2003
              • 28961

              #261
              Re: NBA Draft 2019

              I debated going to Ja's game but A) I'm lazy B) I'd rather watch all the other games on TV. I hope they win so we can see him vs FSU's defense in the next round.
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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #262
                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                Originally posted by ehh
                FSU's defense in the next round.
                If they win, looking like it'll be close thus far.

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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #263
                  Re: NBA Draft 2019

                  Originally posted by ehh
                  I debated going to Ja's game but A) I'm lazy B) I'd rather watch all the other games on TV. I hope they win so we can see him vs FSU's defense in the next round.
                  You didn't go!!! I've never been to a march madness game.


                  Also guys I've been trying to collect all of the footage for Cam Reddish. Hard to find the whole games. But there is one thing I've noticed about Cam. For all of his numbers that are down. When it comes to clutch. He is that guy.
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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28961

                    #264
                    Re: NBA Draft 2019

                    The early round games are such a crapshoot. You can easily catch a couple blowout/snoozers and leave feeling very unsatisfied. The last time I went was in 2001; saw Kentucky barely hang on to beat Holy Cross. I fell asleep during the second game though (I may have been slightly hungover).

                    We used to spend our money on the Big East Tournament; it was a much better experience than the opening weekend of the Big Dance.
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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #265
                      Re: NBA Draft 2019

                      Originally posted by ehh
                      The early round games are such a crapshoot. You can easily catch a couple blowout/snoozers and leave feeling very unsatisfied. The last time I went was in 2001; saw Kentucky barely hang on to beat Holy Cross. I fell asleep during the second game though (I may have been slightly hungover). [emoji38]



                      We used to spend our money on the Big East Tournament; it was a much better experience than the opening weekend of the Big Dance.
                      Thanks for this! When I went to the ACC tournament at Barclays. And your right. It was boring.

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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47568

                        #266
                        Re: NBA Draft 2019

                        Also watching Ja... I've seen 3 of his game. He is a great passer. Like there is no doubt about that.

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                        • KG
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                          • Sep 2005
                          • 17583

                          #267
                          Re: NBA Draft 2019

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          The early round games are such a crapshoot. You can easily catch a couple blowout/snoozers and leave feeling very unsatisfied. The last time I went was in 2001; saw Kentucky barely hang on to beat Holy Cross. I fell asleep during the second game though (I may have been slightly hungover).



                          We used to spend our money on the Big East Tournament; it was a much better experience than the opening weekend of the Big Dance.


                          That’s one thing I’ll always regret, not going to the BET when the league was good.

                          I’ve been to a couple of Final Fours (2001 & 2002) because my boy played on MD and got us tix. It was pretty cool but it was kind of like a super bowl crowd, very very corporate.

                          Been to the ACC tourney in Greensboro. What a crappy city (no disrespect to anyone from there lol)


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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47568

                            #268
                            Re: NBA Draft 2019

                            Originally posted by KG
                            That’s one thing I’ll always regret, not going to the BET when the league was good.

                            I’ve been to a couple of Final Fours (2001 & 2002) because my boy played on MD and got us tix. It was pretty cool but it was kind of like a super bowl crowd, very very corporate.

                            Been to the ACC tourney in Greensboro. What a crappy city (no disrespect to anyone from there lol)


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                            Who else could afford those tickets.... What's worst, your talking about people who don't even know the game that well.

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                            • Majingir
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                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47564

                              #269
                              Re: NBA Draft 2019

                              Never realized Atlanta has Dallas 1st pick. Imagine if Hawks win lottery with their own 1st pick. What possible package could they do with the 6th overall pick to move up to 2? Zion and RJ drafted together?! If a team could pull it off, they'd be set for years.

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28961

                                #270
                                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                                Originally posted by KG
                                That’s one thing I’ll always regret, not going to the BET when the league was good.

                                I’ve been to a couple of Final Fours (2001 & 2002) because my boy played on MD and got us tix. It was pretty cool but it was kind of like a super bowl crowd, very very corporate.

                                Been to the ACC tourney in Greensboro. What a crappy city (no disrespect to anyone from there lol)
                                Exactly. Other conference tournaments and the Big Dance, Final Four, etc have that bland, big arena feel. MSG when the Big East was great was on its own level as an event.

                                Also, I should have gone to this Murray State game today. #Regerts
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