NBA Draft 2019

[ojandpizza]

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He can’t be another Boban?

This is kinda what I was thinking... To me it all comes down to if he can keep improving.. As a freshman he was one of those huge guys who could do nothing but be huge, he's made so much progress since then.

[ojandpizza]

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Was that sarcasm? Lol



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When I said it he had made 2 or 3 good plays in a row that was keeping them in the game. Not sarcasm.

[ehh]

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I think it's underselling Boban's skill and agility to compare them. Boban can score in a variety of ways and has a decent touch around the rim and a short jumper (and apparently hits threes now) too. Fall doesn't have any of that.

Boban is much more mobile, agile, and coordinated than Tacko. Let's not forget Boban was first team All-EuroLeague. I don't think Tacko would have a prayer at that if he was over there.

[jeebs9]

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Zion just needs to get to the 33-35% range from deep so he's a threat. He shoots the ball at the rim instead of up and through it. He doesn't get underneath the ball and push up from the bottom. A lot of shots are on target, they're short or don't have enough arc.

One of my favorite shooting tips is to imagine you're in a phone booth with no roof and you have to shoot the ball up and out of the booth. Zion could really use drills to reinforce that. His feet/hips/shoulders are all fine (which is nothing to scoff at), he just has to work on getting underneath the ball.

Nice to see Reddish have a decent scoring game yesterday, despite starting off with an all-glass 3PA. Couple bad turnovers as usual. Ho-hum game for Barrett. 4/12 inside the arc but he sure came up clutch. Tacko has no chance at the NBA. He's a bigger, slower, less-coordinated, less-skilled Thabeet.

hahaha I know you would bring that up above. He gets the same charge every game. Like WTF dude you haven't learned yet. But yet again, He's come up in the clutch again for Duke.

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I agree it's flat. But is it terrible like people have been saying.. Hell no lol. He actually has a respectable jumper in my opinion. He's been hitting them all year (and in high school). But once he get to the league.He's going to need to get underneath the ball like you said.

I think it's underselling Boban's skill and agility to compare them. Boban can score in a variety of ways and has a decent touch around the rim and a short jumper (and apparently hits threes now) too. Fall doesn't have any of that.

Boban is much more mobile, agile, and coordinated than Tacko. Let's not forget Boban was first team All-EuroLeague. I don't think Tacko would have a prayer at that if he was over there.

Exactly!! I look at a player like Clint Caplea. Now that guy is worthy. And has grown every year he's been in the league. He ever euro steps. Tacko still can't shoot a hook consistently over small opponents. If he did that he'd be a second round player. But he can't even do that.

[ehh]

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Brandon Clarke's purported rise is interesting. He's 6'8" and can't shoot. Has a nice face-up game within 15'. Good defender. Plays hard.

The Stepien has him ranked 5th right now. A bunch of other places have him Top 10. He seems like he could be a nice role player in the league but man, in the 5-8 range seems crazy for a guy who's undersized, can't shoot, and will be 23 years old entering next season. This draft stinks but man, 5th is as high as a known role player will ever be drafted.

[jeebs9]

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Brandon Clarke's purported rise is interesting. He's 6'8" and can't shoot. Has a nice face-up game within 15'. Good defender. Plays hard.

The Stepien has him ranked 5th right now. A bunch of other places have him Top 10. He seems like he could be a nice role player in the league but man, in the 5-8 range seems crazy for a guy who's undersized, can't shoot, and will be 23 years old entering next season. This draft stinks but man, 5th is as high as a known role player will ever be drafted.

I think of Draymond Green when I watch him playing. I think he could fit in nicely as 4. In the 5 out offense. Jumper will come along with practice.

Also saw this article on Coby White.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827711-uncs-coby-whites-surge-from-overlooked-frosh-to-nba-lottery-pick-not-done-yet

[ehh]

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Draymond is such an outlier. I don't think Clarke has his passing skills but admittedly I haven't seen much of him. Draymond averaged 7.5 assists per 100 poss in college. Clarke is less than half that. Draymond was also at least taking threes in college: 134 his senior year at a 39% clip. Clarke has taken 14 all season. Clarke seems like a damn good defender though.

Draymond without the passing or shooting seems like a bench piece or role player. Maybe Clarke will transcend into an elite NBA defender.

[ojandpizza]

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Maybe it's just my "eye test" being a bit cloudy, but White to me definitely doesn't look like a top 5 pick level player. Article breaks down some areas where his stats look good, so like I said maybe it's just me, but I feel like most games I've watched him in he's taken a handful of shots I was thinking he shouldn't have shot that, and late swinging the ball/making right timely passes..

Seems as if his assist numbers are decent, and other coaches are commenting on his passing skills.. So maybe I'm way off on my assumptions.

[ehh]

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As for White, we've discussed him a bit the last few pages but he still hasn't impressed me. His best games are when UNC can control the pace and he can score in transition. His shot is streaky as hell with so-so mechanics. I don't really care for his instincts or feel for the game. Still seems like more of an athlete than a basketball player. He's averaging over 8 3PA per game over his last seven games. He's really getting em up lately lol.

Like OJ said, really he's a SG masquerading as a PG, or at least he doesn't know how to be a real point guard at this stage of his career. He reminds me a little bit of Allonzo Trier, though his tunnel vision isn't as bad.

At the next level, he projects as a combo guard. Bleacher Report's Jonathan Wasserman notes White ranks in the 96th percentile as a spot-up shooter and in the 98th percentile as a pick-and-roll passer.

^^ Talk about a case of numbers not telling the true story.

[Speedy]

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I'm in the same boat, ehh.

Shoot first PG who plays fringe average defense, shoots too many contested shots and lacks instinct as he dribble drives well but chooses not to kick it out but hoist a shot up vs 2-3 guys.

His ability to change gears and push tempo is extraordinary and when he's hot... it's incredible as he can carry the team. Another year at UNC would serve him well if he wants longevity in the NBA.

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[areobee401]

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Clippers after clinching a playoff spot must convey their first round pick to Boston. The Celtics will now own their own, Kings and Clippers first round picks. Could also add the Grizzles (top 8 protected) pick.

That makes 4 possible picks in the 9-21 range. Too many picks?

[cima]

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Clippers after clinching a playoff spot must convey their first round pick to Boston. The Celtics will now own their own, Kings and Clippers first round picks. Could also add the Grizzles (top 8 protected) pick.



That makes 4 possible picks in the 9-21 range. Too many picks?

Yeah, this draft class sounds pretty weak on paper


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[georgiafan]

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Clippers after clinching a playoff spot must convey their first round pick to Boston. The Celtics will now own their own, Kings and Clippers first round picks. Could also add the Grizzles (top 8 protected) pick.

That makes 4 possible picks in the 9-21 range. Too many picks?

Rumor is Atlanta is looking to trade down if we get two picks in the top 8. If one of the Boston picks is like 10th and the Mavs pick is 7th I could see a Boston / Atlanta trade.

[49UNCFan]

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I don't know what you all are looking at regarding Coby White, but look at the difference with him on the court vs Woods. Without Coby there is no National Title hope! Coby has virtually every skill set to be an efficient scorer/play-maker. People are talking about shot selection for a Freshman in which he is also hitting at a decent rate.
Is he the best passer? No
Is he a lock down defender?
Is he a difference maker on the court? Yes

NBA is all about the scoring guards now. The only thing that matters is impact on the court and he has a major one for Carolina and every other team he has played for.

[ojandpizza]

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Speaking of Woods, it's crazy to see where he's ended up at this point. Kid was probably the best 14-15 year old I'd ever seen.. I know he's had injuries, but it seemed like he just never got any better after that point.