Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47565

    #31
    Re: Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    The Celtics will be happy.
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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #32
      Re: Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      Well technically the question can't be answered at all. If they would have moved Kyrie there would have been some type of return. If he just leaves at the end of the season they won't be able to afford whatever his return would have been otherwise in a trade. The whole idea of moving him was never him just simply being gone, it was considering that you would get a big return for him.
      I mean, if you want to play semantics then sure, it can’t be answered.

      But otherwise, replace it with “If they lose Kyrie in the offseason?” and it definitely can be answered. Because at that point, it’ll be about taking whatever you were going to invest in him and use that to improve the roster and potentially replace his production.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #33
        Re: Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        I mean, if you want to play semantics then sure, it can’t be answered.

        But otherwise, replace it with “If they lose Kyrie in the offseason?” and it definitely can be answered. Because at that point, it’ll be about taking whatever you were going to invest in him and use that to improve the roster and potentially replace his production.
        But the issue is that even without his contract they are over the cap (assuming Horford and Baynes stay on player options).. So they are over the cap while losing Kyrie, Rozier, Morris, for nothing. Which was one of the largest reasons I think anybody even considered trading him as a legit option. The money going to all these guys and keeping them all long term went out the window once they added Hayward.

        Even if they keep Kyrie and he wants to stay they will have to pay Horford a new contract after next year, as well as Baynes, as well as Brown, as well as owing Hayward his 35mil still, presumably after already losing Rozier and Morris also. And turn around and max Tatum the following season after that. Which would have to well over the largest payroll in league history while paying 4-years worth of repeater tax.

        Nearly all championship level teams take at least a couple of seasons to build chemistry, that was never going to be feasible with this group after adding Hayward. No way they could keep them all. Then they didn't trade Brown, or Tatum, or Rozier when their value was at it's highest which left their best move at trading Kyrie and probably another piece for one really big piece instead of having the price tag of two max-near max guys rather than just the 1 that they would trade for..

        Also that redundancy of too many mouths to feed did seem to play a negative factor at times this year. Not saying a trade would have magically fixed it, but it couldn't made it any worse.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #34
          Re: Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

          They’d be over the cap but for only one year. And I’m sure Ainge would’ve found ways/solutions to give them a little breathing room in that regard.

          What those moves would’ve been, neither of us knows but I doubt he would just be complacent with being in cap hell for a year and not improving the team.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17873

            #35
            Re: Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

            If people are ready to bury Boston for using up their wealth of assets to only get to this point, y'all better be ready to cremate the Sixers.

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            • OSUFan_88
              Outback Jesus
              • Jul 2004
              • 25642

              #36
              Re: Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

              Originally posted by dubcity
              If people are ready to bury Boston for using up their wealth of assets to only get to this point, y'all better be ready to cremate the Sixers.
              Sixers have to fail first.
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              Urban Meyer is lol.

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              • BluFu
                MVP
                • May 2012
                • 3596

                #37
                Re: Would the Celtics be a Better Team if they moved Kyrie?

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