2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

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  • 3304Life
    MVP
    • Sep 2016
    • 3002

    #46
    Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again but one of the most amazing things I’ve seen in the NBA is Brook’s development so late in his career to become an elite outside shooter because it’s what his team and the current NBA demands.

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #47
      Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by jeebs9
      Been watching Bucks and Celtics sets the last few days.

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      Can't even believe I'm saying Splash Mountain. But I think Brook Lopez has been of the most underrated pick ups in the off season. Like he's also found the most happiness place he could ever be. He's never been a good rebounder. But he's weirdly good at rim protection. Thank Kenny for his 3 point game. He's only 31 years old. Still in his prime. Still can run post up plays for him.
      I can't remember the exact stat, but there was also something correlating Brook Lopez and his teams being good rebounding teams. Where he doesn't get a lot of boards himself, but he doesn't give up rebounds to his match-ups and therefor his teams typically are good rebounding teams because the other 4 guys can swoop in and grab them without battling bigs.

      That was a couple years ago so I don't remember exactly how it was worded, or if I saw it here or somewhere else.. But just looking at stats now it matches up perfectly with whats happened this year too. Bucks go from last in the league in rebounds per game last season and this year they are first in the league. Giannis is also averaging a career best on the glass by a pretty good margin, nearly 3 more boards per game playing nearly 4 less minutes.

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      • WarMMA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4612

        #48
        Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by jeebs9
        Been watching Bucks and Celtics sets the last few days.

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        Can't even believe I'm saying Splash Mountain. But I think Brook Lopez has been of the most underrated pick ups in the off season. Like he's also found the most happiness place he could ever be. He's never been a good rebounder. But he's weirdly good at rim protection. Thank Kenny for his 3 point game. He's only 31 years old. Still in his prime. Still can run post up plays for him.
        Yup Lopez was probably the best pick up they made tbh. A stretch big that's also a threat in the post, he's a handful to deal with. Another great pick up they made too was grabbing Mirotic. Having these types of players allow the Bucks to space the floor so Giannis or Bledsoe can go to work. Can't wait for game 1 on sun.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #49
          Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          Wasn’t the case when he was here.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #50
            Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Wasn’t the case when he was here.
            I think numbers have indicated him to be one of the most valuable players in the league for team rebounding for awhile, even in his Nets days. I know Thad Young averaged a career best 9 boards alongside him while being a career 6 guy. Booker set a career high next to him, Giannis now.

            Also reading a hoopshabit article now that claims in the 3 years before this season Brooks on/off rebounding differentials ranked in the 98th, 91st, and 76th percentiles.. Basically every team he plays on they are a vastly better rebounding team with him on the floor. The article, 8 months old, was projecting he was going to have a big impact on Bucks team rebounding by adding Lopez...and they ended up jumping from last to first lol

            Article compares him to someone like Whiteside who jumps for every board and posts good rebound numbers individually but provides little to no team impact, vs Lopez who will box his man away from the ball and hold position and posts low rebound numbers himself but ensures he team ends up with the ball.

            And this quote, from the year Reggie Evans snagged so many boards:
            According to Schuhmann, in 18 games under the watchful eyes of Spor**** cameras, Lopez actually grabbed 63% of all rebounds when he was in the vicinity of the ball, compared to just 62% for Evans. 54% of Lopez's rebounds were contested, while only 31% of Evans's were, and Lopez traveled more than 2 feet further on average to grab his rebounds.
            We (and others) have dissected how Brook Lopez's attention to boxing out made Evans's job as a rebounder easier, and the Spor**** numbers back it up; Lopez's rebounds often come while fighting others for position, while Evans's are a result of Lopez clearing that space.
            According to NBA.com, Brook Lopez grabbed 13.2% of all available rebounds when he was on the floor this season, ranking him 55th in the NBA among players with at least 50 games played and 20 minutes played per game. (Evans ranked first, by a wide margin.) The team as a whole grabbed a higher percentage of rebounds with Lopez on the floor (52.9%) than off (51.2%)

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #51
              Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Ugh don’t even get me started on Reggie Evans’ stat chasing ***.

              Those were the ugly days of Brooklyn Basketball, don’t make me relive those, OJ lol
              #RespectTheCulture

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #52
                Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                Wasn’t the case when he was here.
                I always liked him when he was here. Actually also thought the Lakers should of re-signed him. Would it provided a nice veteran and a outside shooter (with go to post moves). Fits right in with LeBron style.

                I'll always remember Brook always getting away with the rip through lol

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #53
                  Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  It's slightly off-topic but kudos to Maj on his modified Raptors logo there.
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                  • Majingir
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 47577

                    #54
                    Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    It's slightly off-topic but kudos to Maj on his modified Raptors logo there.
                    Lol ya. Thanks to the "roundel" era of logos, it fits perfectly. They should use that logo for these types of occasions.

                    Speaking of logos, I'm still hoping Raptors change their logo one day.

                    The dinosaur logo leaving was fine, but I still feel like there was nothing wrong with their alternate at the time.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47577

                      #55
                      Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      Cant wait for gm1. Haven't been this excited since 2016 run when Raptors got conference finals to 2-2.

                      I wonder who's calling game for TNT.

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                      • Master Live 013
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 12351

                        #56
                        Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        Not digging starting a new Round of the playoffs while the previous one hasn't finish.
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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47577

                          #57
                          Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Master Live 013
                          Not digging starting a new Round of the playoffs while the previous one hasn't finish.
                          In some cases, best of 5 would be better in rd1 given how uneven NBA is. Though theres always that 1 series it seems where we go 7 in rd1. But probably more which end in 4-5 games in rd1. So instead of having half the teams wait 2-3 games for another series to end, we see them end sooner.

                          At least 76ers aren't in Toronto long. Apparently Embiid was out at a club until past 1am. No secret NBA guys love going to parties and clubs in Toronto, specifically on weekends(Saturday nights are the more popular day,which is worse when they used to have 1pm Sunday games). Wonder how (if its true) that impacts his performance. He already has bad numbers vs Gasol on good nights.

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                          • Master Live 013
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 12351

                            #58
                            Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread
                            • Raptors over 76ers in 6.
                            • Bucks over Celtics in 7.
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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47577

                              #59
                              Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              Feels like so long ago

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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #60
                                Re: 2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                Feels like so long ago
                                Because it WAS so long ago

                                I liked Philly's uniform set back in those days too.
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                                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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