2019 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread
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2/3 types absolutely. Not a star of team but that list is like 6-10 players so that would be outrageous to think of any 2/3 year guys.Wolverines Packers Cubs Celtics
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I would consider a “legit All-Star” a player who can consistently play at that level.. hard to know or predict how much more improving Russell is going to do, or if what he did this season is indeed sustainable.. it seems to be, because this is what most thought he would be out the gate.
Honestly watching this year alone, Russell to me looks like he has more impact on the team’s success.. and maybe it’s playing alongside Kyrie, but Tatum didn’t offer much in my eyes outside scoring potential. Russell handles the ball, makes good passes, plays either guard spot, and gets buckets like Tatum does..
For the Nets specifically, maybe. They need a small forward so team need plays a role. And maybe they are un-sure on if maxing Russell is the right move. But honestly if LeVert is your 3 and not playing at SG, he started off this season playing every bit as well as Tatum also.
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The whole Tatum looking like a superstar thing is now comprised of about 2 months worth of good play in 2 seasons.. months where injuries gave him a larger opportunity.
I wonder what his trade value even looks like right now. I originally thought no way they trade this guy for anyone much older than him.. and now it’s more like no way I would trade a legit all star for someone as shaky as Tatum.
Plus, as I said all along, it's not like Boston was running their offense through him. He was one piece of a well-balanced offense and had some tasty matchups that he did well against. He was basically a by-product of a great team run by Boston last year. Bill Simmons was out here saying he might be the next KD.
He's looking like the exact prospect people expected out of Duke. He's a scorer who doesn't make others better. Doesn't rebound well, he's a poor defender. He really might be the Melo of this generation. Even scarier is that he might be a poor man's Melo. Unless he has some pretty substantial development/expansion of his game, I'm not really sure where he's going to fit into the modern NBA. I don't think he's ever going to be the kind of scorer that Melo was (I won't even insult KD by putting his name in here). If you aren't an elite scorer but also aren't a good passer/make your teammates better, defender, or rebounder then....?
I have no idea what his trade value is right now but any team (the Pels) are going to be able to use this season and the playoffs as ammunition to try to drive down his value. I've mentioned this before but if I'm Boston (and Kyrie leaves) I don't bother going after AD. It doesn't fit with your timeline and it's probably going to cost you Tatum/Brown/picks, plus the East is getting better. AD and a blah supporting cast: what's the point?"You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Last edited by ehh; 05-08-2019, 09:58 PM."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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You could argue it was just the Philly series last year that had people going crazy. He was whatever vs MIL in the opening round, and good but nothing great vs CLE in the ECF. He did his thing against Philly and Cleveland, two teams who had no one to match up with him. Hell, Philly started the ECSF with Redick on him.
Plus, as I said all along, it's not like Boston was running their offense through him. He was one piece of a well-balanced offense and had some tasty matchups that he did well against. He was basically a by-product of a great team run by Boston last year. Bill Simmons was out here saying he might be the next KD.
He's looking like the exact prospect people expected out of Duke. He's a scorer who doesn't make others better. Doesn't rebound well, he's a poor defender. He really might be the Melo of this generation. Even scarier is that he might be a poor man's Melo. Unless he has some pretty substantial development/expansion of his game, I'm not really sure where he's going to fit into the modern NBA. I don't think he's ever going to be the kind of scorer that Melo was (I won't even insult KD by putting his name in here). If you aren't an elite scorer but also aren't a good passer/make your teammates better, defender, or rebounder then....?
I have no idea what his trade value is right now but any team (the Pels) are going to be able to use this season and the playoffs as ammunition to try to drive down his value. I've mentioned this before but if I'm Boston (and Kyrie leaves) I don't bother going after AD. It doesn't fit with your timeline and it's probably going to cost you Tatum/Brown/picks, plus the East is getting better. AD and a blah supporting cast: what's the point?
I think he did a bit more than just play well against favorable matchups.. he started the season off shooting insane, obviously wasn’t sustainable shooting like a top 5 shooter in the league, but just the smooth transition for him to this league was significant to me. Then in the playoffs, more than just his play, but just taking on that moment and not shying away from it. And playing well while doing it.
But still I agree with most of your other points. And if Kyrie is indeed out, Boston’s best bet might just be drafting with those picks or trading them to move up for picks because with no Kyrie, no reason to ditch legit assets for mediocrity, building with their youth might be the best move.. and fit their coach better as well.
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He seems to shy away from contact that plus takes bad shots quite often I dont know. He obviously is a good shooter so that definitely helps just needs to not play so soft.
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And I’m not trying to make some big hot take claim solely based on this series.. this was a season long thing, where I legit questioned when all the trade rumors were flying around if he was even outplaying Kuz by much if at all this year..
I was patient because I thought when the playoffs slowed things down and Boston needed his iso scoring that he would show us some things again.. just didn’t really happen. And now I feel torn.
Shot selection looks worse, shot percentage is down, outside shooting way down, free throw shooting down, didn’t really grow anywhere else, hasn’t shown to be able to play off ball with a player like Kyrie who is what you need to win.. I felt like a month into the season had you not known he liked Kobe, trained with Kobe, etc you could have made that guess all on your own just by watching his approach.
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You could argue it was just the Philly series last year that had people going crazy. He was whatever vs MIL in the opening round, and good but nothing great vs CLE in the ECF. He did his thing against Philly and Cleveland, two teams who had no one to match up with him. Hell, Philly started the ECSF with Redick on him.
Plus, as I said all along, it's not like Boston was running their offense through him. He was one piece of a well-balanced offense and had some tasty matchups that he did well against. He was basically a by-product of a great team run by Boston last year. Bill Simmons was out here saying he might be the next KD.
He's looking like the exact prospect people expected out of Duke. He's a scorer who doesn't make others better. Doesn't rebound well, he's a poor defender. He really might be the Melo of this generation. Even scarier is that he might be a poor man's Melo. Unless he has some pretty substantial development/expansion of his game, I'm not really sure where he's going to fit into the modern NBA. I don't think he's ever going to be the kind of scorer that Melo was (I won't even insult KD by putting his name in here). If you aren't an elite scorer but also aren't a good passer/make your teammates better, defender, or rebounder then....?
I have no idea what his trade value is right now but any team (the Pels) are going to be able to use this season and the playoffs as ammunition to try to drive down his value. I've mentioned this before but if I'm Boston (and Kyrie leaves) I don't bother going after AD. It doesn't fit with your timeline and it's probably going to cost you Tatum/Brown/picks, plus the East is getting better. AD and a blah supporting cast: what's the point?
Agree though on if Kyrie Leaves just go with the young guys it's not worth it. But they gotta commit to one timeline.Wolverines Packers Cubs Celtics
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Is it ECF runner up? Wouldn't that go to the team that lost the ECF?Comment
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My Kyrie stays in Boston prediction in the Offseason thread isn't looking great now...😂Comment
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Good luck to you guys, man.
Truth be told, the series was more about the Bucks being really good, than the dysfunctional mess the Celtics are.
Sorry the thread turned all about them and less about how impressive a series your team had.Comment
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