Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

[Tmacattack]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

Who the hell is comparing J-Kidd to Francis or Lebron? Does the title of this post say "Is Kidd better than Lebron or Francis?" -No, it does not. Like I said before, Kidd is probably the best rebounding point guard in the league (I'm almost sure no one besides Tmacattack will disagree). We're comparing Kidd to Nash, NOT Kidd to Lebron or Francis.

sorry, i meant nash instead of lebron, i dont know why i said lebron..., anyways what i meant to say is nash is a better shooter, passer in the halfcourt,, and all the rest i said. Second, u said kidd is the best rebounding point gaurd in the lweague, i pointed out what you said, and said the francis is, just for the record, and the reason i responded so late is because i haven't been on the internet for a while

[Tmacattack]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

Who the hell is comparing J-Kidd to Francis or Lebron? Does the title of this post say "Is Kidd better than Lebron or Francis?" -No, it does not. Like I said before, Kidd is probably the best rebounding point guard in the league (I'm almost sure no one besides Tmacattack will disagree). We're comparing Kidd to Nash, NOT Kidd to Lebron or Francis.

sorry, i meant nash instead of lebron, i dont know why i said lebron..., anyways what i meant to say is nash is a better shooter, passer in the halfcourt,, and all the rest i said. Second, u said kidd is the best rebounding point gaurd in the lweague, i pointed out what you said, and said the francis is, just for the record, and the reason i responded so late is because i haven't been on the internet for a while

[rbruns]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

What if j kidd was on phoenix, could he not do the same? For the record, he has not played w/anyone like Amare stoudemire, and add Q, Joe Johnson, and Shawn Marion, there is no reason to suggest Kidd couldn't do what nash has. think about it, J kidd went to the finals w/R Jefferson, before RJ was good, and K Mart, and a bag of chips. Imagine what J kidd could do w/the Suns AMAZING supporting cast.

[rbruns]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

What if j kidd was on phoenix, could he not do the same? For the record, he has not played w/anyone like Amare stoudemire, and add Q, Joe Johnson, and Shawn Marion, there is no reason to suggest Kidd couldn't do what nash has. think about it, J kidd went to the finals w/R Jefferson, before RJ was good, and K Mart, and a bag of chips. Imagine what J kidd could do w/the Suns AMAZING supporting cast.

[nickpappas1]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

What if j kidd was on phoenix, could he not do the same? For the record, he has not played w/anyone like Amare stoudemire, and add Q, Joe Johnson, and Shawn Marion, there is no reason to suggest Kidd couldn't do what nash has. think about it, J kidd went to the finals w/R Jefferson, before RJ was good, and K Mart, and a bag of chips. Imagine what J kidd could do w/the Suns AMAZING supporting cast.

i dont think he would do as well something about nash makes that offense click, kidd sometimes had poor shot selection while Nash knows when to shoot or pass

[nickpappas1]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

What if j kidd was on phoenix, could he not do the same? For the record, he has not played w/anyone like Amare stoudemire, and add Q, Joe Johnson, and Shawn Marion, there is no reason to suggest Kidd couldn't do what nash has. think about it, J kidd went to the finals w/R Jefferson, before RJ was good, and K Mart, and a bag of chips. Imagine what J kidd could do w/the Suns AMAZING supporting cast.

i dont think he would do as well something about nash makes that offense click, kidd sometimes had poor shot selection while Nash knows when to shoot or pass

[Ofizzle]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

Everyone has bad shot selection, Kidd is forced to take bad shots because look at his teammates, Nash has teammates that make him always have an option on the floor, you think Nash would average 11 assists passing to Kristic and Collins and expecting them do dunk on people, or make jumpers all day?

Kidd is a better PG than Nash. Nash is a better shooter, but that's where it ends. Kidd is just as good a passer, is 10 times the defender, is a better rebounder, and is just as capable a scorer. This season Kidd is shooting 40% from downtown, and he's been playing very well.

People always talk about the halfcourt thing, but Kidd can pass in halfcourt basketball, his scoring was just less efficient, but this season he's been doing well. Kidd is passing to Carter, Kristic, Buford [injured now], Jason Collins, Travis Best, while Nash is passing to Amare, Marion, Q-Rich, JJ, and is also on a team that plays a faster pace which will give him more assists oppurtunities.

Kidd is a better player because defense is 50% of the game. Nash is a better shooter, but that gap doesn't exceed the fact the Kidd kills him defensively, rebounds better, and is just as good or a better passer.

Too much hype on Nash right now, I'm from Canada and I like the guy, but he's no better than he was in Dallas, he just has beast teammates now. Yes the Suns would only be a 5th seed or so team without him, but that's not cause he exceeds every player in the league it's because the Suns are a team with finishers and no playmakers outside of Nash, Kidd would have the same effect, so would Brevin Knight to a lesser extent or Rafer Alston if he didn't go crazy every other game.

It's more impressive for Brevin Knight to get average 9+ assists a game in 28 minutes on Charlotte than Nash to average 11 assists on Phoenix to tell the truth.


Also about the Raptors, we did screw up considering Eric Williams now wants a trade, Zo wasn't supposed to play, and Aaron Williams comes in once every 5 games. We gave Vince all he wanted, blah blah, he needed to go, him and the team weren't on the right terms, as we've seen with Eric Williams, no one likes losing. He signed with the team though everyone said he would'nt want to stay, yet at the first sign of adversity or injury, everyone turned against him.

When Vince was here this season, it was all his fault that their were chemistry problems, and he leaves and we still have Rafer crying every other game, their's more to it than just Vince becuase when he was here no one wanted to find the truth, it was too easy to just say it's Vince's fault.

Babcock sucks, Hoffa is still not good, Mitchell is a crazy man, Rafer is an idiot, the trade was garbage, and let's just hope Bosh doesn't get angry and bail on us later down the road.

[Ofizzle]

Re: Who's better player, Jason Kidd/Steve Nash.

Everyone has bad shot selection, Kidd is forced to take bad shots because look at his teammates, Nash has teammates that make him always have an option on the floor, you think Nash would average 11 assists passing to Kristic and Collins and expecting them do dunk on people, or make jumpers all day?

Kidd is a better PG than Nash. Nash is a better shooter, but that's where it ends. Kidd is just as good a passer, is 10 times the defender, is a better rebounder, and is just as capable a scorer. This season Kidd is shooting 40% from downtown, and he's been playing very well.

People always talk about the halfcourt thing, but Kidd can pass in halfcourt basketball, his scoring was just less efficient, but this season he's been doing well. Kidd is passing to Carter, Kristic, Buford [injured now], Jason Collins, Travis Best, while Nash is passing to Amare, Marion, Q-Rich, JJ, and is also on a team that plays a faster pace which will give him more assists oppurtunities.

Kidd is a better player because defense is 50% of the game. Nash is a better shooter, but that gap doesn't exceed the fact the Kidd kills him defensively, rebounds better, and is just as good or a better passer.

Too much hype on Nash right now, I'm from Canada and I like the guy, but he's no better than he was in Dallas, he just has beast teammates now. Yes the Suns would only be a 5th seed or so team without him, but that's not cause he exceeds every player in the league it's because the Suns are a team with finishers and no playmakers outside of Nash, Kidd would have the same effect, so would Brevin Knight to a lesser extent or Rafer Alston if he didn't go crazy every other game.

It's more impressive for Brevin Knight to get average 9+ assists a game in 28 minutes on Charlotte than Nash to average 11 assists on Phoenix to tell the truth.


Also about the Raptors, we did screw up considering Eric Williams now wants a trade, Zo wasn't supposed to play, and Aaron Williams comes in once every 5 games. We gave Vince all he wanted, blah blah, he needed to go, him and the team weren't on the right terms, as we've seen with Eric Williams, no one likes losing. He signed with the team though everyone said he would'nt want to stay, yet at the first sign of adversity or injury, everyone turned against him.

When Vince was here this season, it was all his fault that their were chemistry problems, and he leaves and we still have Rafer crying every other game, their's more to it than just Vince becuase when he was here no one wanted to find the truth, it was too easy to just say it's Vince's fault.

Babcock sucks, Hoffa is still not good, Mitchell is a crazy man, Rafer is an idiot, the trade was garbage, and let's just hope Bosh doesn't get angry and bail on us later down the road.