2/23 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

[dubcity]

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Cue Griffin basically playing the same as he did in Detroit but people acting like it's a return to form because he's on a winning team.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2/23 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

What does he provide that we already don’t have?

To me, this is low risk/low reward which is why I’m not too bothered by it. I personally would’ve passed on him and continued seeing what we have with Claxton.

To add, he’s not even an upgrade over Uncle Jeff if we’re being honest. [emoji2377] But I’m not sure what anyone has seen from him to be so confident that all of a sudden he‘ll revert back to Lob City Blake just because.

[cima]

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I'm just sitting here wondering what Blake Griffin you guys have been watching, that man is almost done

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The only thing he's done is playing for **** teams. He's gonna become unwashed the moment he's on a contender (see Nic Batum as the latest example)

[JazzMan]

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The only thing he's done is playing for **** teams. He's gonna become unwashed the moment he's on a contender (see Nic Batum as the latest example)

Batum already had that perfect role player skillset though. He's a good shooter and a very good defender, great glue guy. Blake has never been that type of glue guy before, and like Pack said, is he really giving the Nets something that they don't have right now? The best thing he can provide is playing at the 5 with his size and shooting, but he's still not going to anchor your defense

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[ojandpizza]

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I don’t think anybody even considering signing Blake is doing so because they believe he can anchor a defense though.

I don’t think he’s helping many of the rumored teams substantially, maybe Miami, but I do think he’s a slight upgrade to Green, Morris, Patterson for that backup 4/small ball 5 on any of the Nets, Lakers, Clippers..

I also think it’s hard to know where Blake stands. The last time he played semi-healthy basketball he looked really good and was leaving everything on the floor for Detroit in that playoff series. He was hurt then too. He’s been really bad coming back this season, but he also looks like he doesn’t care anymore and wants out also. I’m not saying he goes to a good team and looks like lob city Blake before all his late injuries, but I think we will absolutely see some level of resurgence in his game going to a contender.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

2/23 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

He damn sure ain’t an upgrade to Green if we’re going off film from this year. If anything he’s probably just insurance for Green.

[The 24th Letter]

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If it works out, he'd be example 3847 of 'washed' guy contributing to contender in a reduced role. Seems like every championship team has at least one, lol

as long as he's no locker room issue or taking a flourishing younger guys minutes it's a low risk move...

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[ojandpizza]

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He damn sure ain’t an upgrade to Green if we’re going off film from this year. If anything he’s probably just insurance for Green.

But there are lot of things he does better than Green. If anything his ability to make passes like a secondary playmaker and set screens would compliment Kyrie and Harden well. Regardless of how Blake has looked this year (which I don't believe is an indication of how he will look come playoff time anyways if he's healthy) teams aren't going to give him open lanes to the rim after screening for Harden, Kyrie, even KD which means those guys could get less defensive attention with Blake on the floor vs Green.. And I expect both his and Jeff Greens outside shot to normalize a bit at some point. Green isn't quite the level of shooter he's currently making them at, Blake not quite as bad.

Jeff Green has been meh.. Looks a lot like he did with the Cavs when they thought they had a reliable bench piece too. Jeff does this every year, flashes of some good games, solid defense on the right opponents, makes just enough threes that you're happy with his percentages but defenders are happy leaving him wide open in favor of everyone else on the floor. And then he falls off come playoff time because he's not an aggressive enough player to play at the intensity over the course of a full post-season run. I mean he was that way even when he was "good" for Boston and Memphis.

I think it's fair to say maybe Jeff Green with the Nets been a bit better than Blake with the Pistons, I just don't think he would be better than Blake Griffin on the Nets if that makes sense.

[dubcity]

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If Harden AND Griffin end up getting a ring out of all this, I swear. Bunch of nonsense lol.

[TheShizNo1]

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If Harden AND Griffin end up getting a ring out of all this, I swear. Bunch of nonsense lol.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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If anything his ability to make passes like a secondary playmaker and set screens would compliment Kyrie and Harden well.

Which is moot because we already have guys on the roster that do these at a much better level than he has this year.

Regardless of how Blake has looked this year (which I don't believe is an indication of how he will look come playoff time anyways if he's healthy)

He's played what...38 games in the last 2 years and his game has continued to decline(which makes sense considering the type of injuries he's been dealing with)how much healthier do ya'll think he'll get?

Green isn't quite the level of shooter he's currently making them at, Blake not quite as bad.

But he's still a bigger "threat" from the perimeter than Blake will be on this team.

I feel like all of this optimism about Blake is more about what folks HOPE he'll become as opposed to what he currently is(He's another pity story for NBA fans), which is not a good Basketball player whose main ability of rolling to the rim has been lost because of his lower body injuries/declining athleticism, can't rebound, can't defend, can't protect the paint, can't shoot(luckily we don't need this from him)quickness is gone, has a slow *** first step. He doesn't bring anything that we don't have nor does he provide anything that we need.

Is he an upgrade over guys like Shump, Roberson and Cook? Sure I guess, but that's not saying much because those guys are pretty much end of the bench cheerleaders, but if Blake wants to be in that role, then I have no issues. But do I play him minutes over Green or Jordan or even give him Claxton's minutes? No.

I think it's fair to say maybe Jeff Green with the Nets been a bit better than Blake with the Pistons, I just don't think he would be better than Blake Griffin on the Nets if that makes sense.

1. I would hope Green is a better player right now than Blake considering he's barely played over the last two years, lol.
2. I disagree but I'm also going off the evidence from this year, which is all we can do since again Blake has barely played in the last 2 years.

Like I said earlier, it's a low risk/low reward move so I'm not losing my mind over it. I just don't see any added benefit to him coming here he addresses nothing and I think it's a waste of time And yes, I'm aware that there aren't much better options on the street available nor does it stop us from addressing those other issues currently on the team.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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If Harden AND Griffin end up getting a ring out of all this, I swear. Bunch of nonsense lol.

Please, guys have done this with Lebron and you kept quiet so hush, lol

[DieHardYankee26]

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Random but I was watching the video of Shump’s one handed putback in the Garden the other day. He was so exciting at one point, injuries really did a number on him.

[ojandpizza]

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Pack there is no evidence to go by because we haven’t seen Blake running a pick and roll with a player like Harden. You don’t think defenders would be hesitant to let Blake run to the rim, meaning Harden has far less defensive help coming his way than a similar situation with Green? Defenders aren’t going to care if Blake looked so-so in a handful of games with the Pistons. They aren’t letting a guy like him rim run with a guy like Harden ready to make that pass. It would open up so much more than anything Green does regardless of how the two of them have looked so far. IMO.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

2/23 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

He’s not opening up or unlocking anything on Offense that we can’t already get without him.

I’m hoping Claxton remains healthy and continues building off of each game so Blake can remain on the bench especially since he’s brings more to the table than Griffin does.