Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #481
    Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    This is why you'll never see me on the "just tell me how many rings they have" side of the fence in player discussions.



    I definitely don't not fully appreciate KD, I just think it becomes hard in players comparisons when you just don't know. Like we've seen arguments here even where people say things like "KD can't lead a team like so and so". I think cima brought it up most recently. And I don't believe that is true personally if you ask me, especially when people were using that as a comparison to Curry who didn't even make the playoffs lol.. But it still leaves it open in a sense because we don't truly know.



    Personally I think it's silly when not winning is held against players when they weren't in circumstances to win. Like you mentioned with LeBron, he never won but he wasn't supposed to win. I mean the thought of him winning in those years was based on "well they have LeBron so maybe" which is a tribute to his value provided. But then losing to a better team never felt like something I needed to place blame on him for, so long as he was great. If that makes sense. Like Giannis argument now, like I'm not going to fault Giannis directly for losing to a team like BK, but I will fault him for not being great.



    It's not like it's KD's fault, other than the GS move I guess though I don't fault any free-agents decision to go win with how people treat people who don't win.... Magic, Bird, they were drafted into similar situations. We never really got to see if those guys were capable of doing the things MJ was doing, despite them being great. I feel like we saw some of that with Shaq, Duncan, LeBron, KG with less success but still. Giannis to an extent now but not as much playoff carry over. KD has just never really been in a situation where teams can even defend him the way you would want to defend a player of his caliber. So I do think that makes it tricky when doing direct comparisons to other guys. And even like the GS situation, like he won, he got the finals MVPs, but they were going to win if he was average or just above that. Teams couldn't leave other people to defend him like he was special. It just makes the "where is KD all-time, or even now" a bit murky when you're comparing him to say Luka this year who each game he has to be truly special with the entire game plan on the other side being "keep him from being special".



    I mean obviously I'm on the KD side of the argument. I've been saying for like 4 years now give me KD or Bron in a playoff series over anybody regardless of the regular season stats or MVP voting. I'm the one saying he should be getting top 10 player level praise like Kobe does. But I do still wish there was a great opportunity for him to be able to back me up also. Because I do think these situations he is in, has been in, leave the door a bit more open from me feeling like "this is my opinion" vs "I'm obviously correct here" lol.
    OJandpizza you've grown so much. I'm proud to call you my OS brother. That was perfect!
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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #482
      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      Bucks are probably gonna shoot like 40% from 3 today and get the W. Game 3 against Boston all over again.

      And I hate that we don’t wear these Whites at home too.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #483
        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        That's a statement dunk!!
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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #484
          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          I the aggressiveness from the Bucks early
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          • illwill10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 19828

            #485
            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Bucks are probably gonna shoot like 40% from 3 today and get the W. Game 3 against Boston all over again.

            And I hate that we don’t wear these Whites at home too.
            Has any team worn whites at home this offseason. I saw on Twitter Atlanta wanting their fans to wear red, so they're likely to wear red jerseys next 2 games. I noticed that trend switch from wearing white at home to colored jerseys

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            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #486
              Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Giannis shushing the home crowd while he’s taking free throws [emoji23]
              Originally posted by G Perico
              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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              • cima
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 13478

                #487
                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                Back in the day this game would already be over but BK could take the lead halfway through the 2nd in today's NBA.

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                • 3304Life
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 3002

                  #488
                  Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  Big 2016 Finals vibes from this series. It’ll go 7 and every game will be a blowout.


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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #489
                    Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    15 for you and 15 for me.
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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #490
                      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      Just like that... Timeout right there
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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #491
                        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        I find modern basketball to be a little bit ridiculous looking when it's just up and down chucking threes. There are sequences where it just looks stupid.I don't know, it strikes me sometimes especially when it keeps missing. So it's three, brick, three, brick, three brick, three brick. Just not aestheticaly pleasing.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #492
                          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          Bruce Brown.... Watch out

                          It's pretty nuts to let that guy get hot. And a heat check would be him shooting a 3 pointer [emoji23]
                          Last edited by jeebs9; 06-10-2021, 07:29 PM.
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                          • Vni
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 14833

                            #493
                            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                            Bruce Brown very good piece for the Nets.

                            6 points game just like that.

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                            • cima
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 13478

                              #494
                              Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              Blake Griffin comes in and suddenly Giannis forgets how to attack? Absolutely pathetic 2nd quarter from Milwaukee so far, being outscored 15-2.

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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47568

                                #495
                                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                I like that Dribble Hand off there. Keep attacking that!!
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