11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Nobody runs around the court acting crazy without reason.

He feels that he did so who I am to judge him and say he’s in the wrong for responding like he did. Everyone isn’t gonna respond with a “You’re good bro, I know you didn’t mean I, let’s play ball” like you might see playing pickup ball at your local gym.

When that adrenaline is running in a competitive sport, that mind goes blank.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

I’m not judging him because I don’t really care, I’m saying by NBA standards you can’t run around on the court like a wild man wanting to throw hands at everybody and take off sprinting through the tunnel hoping to come out the other side, try to get to the other teams locker room, etc. and expect it to be fine lol. And it’s not my spot to tell him how he should/shouldn’t act but I can definitely compare his behavior to the behavior of the 100 other times we’ve seen a guy catch a shot and not do that.

[dubcity]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Watching it again I get the feeling he was mad about the unfairness of: you got hit in the face, now calm down, relax. Getting treated like he did something wrong. It wasn't so much the hit but the frustration of being handled like he was in the wrong. Then he was like, well I'm getting treated like I ****ed up when I didn't, now let me at least live up to that and punch somebody.

But really he didn't get treated like he did something wrong, it was just the de-escalation by everyone made it seem that way. Doesn't justify running around like Ron Artest lol.

[ProfessaPackMan]

11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

but I can definitely compare his behavior to the behavior of the 100 other times we’ve seen a guy catch a shot and not do that.

Which is silly to do because everyone isn’t going to respond the same way.

I didn’t watch the whole game but was there some sort of buildup to this? This isn’t happening just off the random(it never does in ANY circumstance, which we all need to keep in mind while we’re MMQBing this)unless something preceded this, which I’m assuming something either happened or was said on the court.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

His coach said it best.

It went from a human reaction to an overreaction, and that's OK to acknowledge.

He's only 20 and by all accounts a good kid though, just don't let it define your character and keep pushing.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

His coach said it best.

It went from a human reaction to an overreaction, and that's OK to acknowledge.

He's only 20 and by all accounts a good kid though, just don't let it define your character and keep pushing.

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Which part did he overreact to?

Edit: What I’m saying is that he did but it’s not like he didn’t have his reason but again everyone is going to react differently to that situation.

[bigeastbumrush]

11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Well he didn’t get bowed in the face. He caught some wrist/hand for Bron trying to swing him off of him. To be fair we see it happen quite often. This one just happened to draw a lot of blood (still not sure how) .. regardless most people don’t run around the court acting like an enraged lunatic. I don’t think any of that was justifiable, and most likely will face suspension.

Ok. So another man’s fist connected to his face and drew blood.

In what type of world does this not warrant a response? Is it because it’s LeBron who did it?

It’s one thing to get hit in your body. Totally different getting hit in your face..as a man.

Reminds me of Camby vs Danny Ferry when Jeff Van Gundy got punched. Camby took the initial blow. But when he touched his head and saw blood he went berserk.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

I’m not judging him because I don’t really care, I’m saying by NBA standards you can’t run around on the court like a wild man wanting to throw hands at everybody and take off sprinting through the tunnel hoping to come out the other side, try to get to the other teams locker room, etc. and expect it to be fine lol. And it’s not my spot to tell him how he should/shouldn’t act but I can definitely compare his behavior to the behavior of the 100 other times we’ve seen a guy catch a shot and not do that.

“By NBA standards”. A fight is a fight. Not his fault these guys want to hug it out all the time.

And how often does a player get hit in the face and start leaking?

He didn’t want to throw hands with everybody. He wanted LeBron but the damn Lakers built a wall lol.

If he wants to really scrap who are we to say he’s wrong for it? We didn’t get hit.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Which part did he overreact to?

Edit: What I’m saying is that he did but it’s not like he didn’t have his reason but again everyone is going to react differently to that situation.

Definitely an overreaction, and while everyone reacts differently, It's just a matter of reinforcing the right way to the young man. He'll be upset many more times in his career, just a learning experience. Everyone knows he wasn't angry for no reason.

but this is all being overanalyzed at this point anyway..understandable considering who it is involves. I personally hope he doesn't receive any more punishment.

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[VDusen04]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Nobody runs around the court acting crazy without reason.

He feels that he did so who I am to judge him and say he’s in the wrong for responding like he did.

Which part did he overreact to?

Edit: What I’m saying is that he did but it’s not like he didn’t have his reason but again everyone is going to react differently to that situation.

If he wants to really scrap who are we to say he’s wrong for it? We didn’t get hit.

It seems like OJ is mostly speculating on the likelihood that Stewart will face a suspension. And in that case, the league is who gets to judge what constitutes inappropriate conduct and to what degree.

As for the rest of us, we're free to sit back and volley our own opinions to and fro, just as we always do. I happen to be in the camp that believes that an emotional response to a cut-inducing backhand to the face is understandable... to a point. But everyone's got their line that'd officially be "too far". If Isaiah's actions don't meet your personal threshold, cool. But I trust everyone's got a threshold.

In this case, I think it's perfectly fair to consider that rampaging through his own teammates and staff on two or three separate occasions while blood poured down his face, only to sprint through the tunnel in an attempt to push the matter further... might have been a bit of an overreaction to the initial transgression.

His coach said it best.

It went from a human reaction to an overreaction, and that's OK to acknowledge.

He's only 20 and by all accounts a good kid though, just don't let it define your character and keep pushing.

Well stated.

[jfsolo]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Would there be this much conversation about this incident if LeBron wasn't involved? Stewart got bloodied, went off the rails a bit but didn't punch anyone so maybe he should get fined and that's it for him. Because he opened a cut Bron will probably get a one game suspension.

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[JazzMan]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Meanwhile in non-Lebron news

https://twitter.com/msinger/status/1462647164656513031

Michael Porter Jr could miss the rest of the season with a nerve issue in his lower back

What did I say about extending that man and his 85 year old back? Dude is worse off than Shawn Michaels in 99

[ojandpizza]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Would there be this much conversation about this incident if LeBron wasn't involved? [/URL]

Honestly I'd take this a step further and say if it didn't draw blood we wouldn't be having much of a conversation, and reading comments here just reaffirmed that. Never in my life have a seen so many people use the "draw blood", "see red" and use that talking like a bull seeing red in a cartoon where you can just justifiably act wild and run through everybody lol..

I mean we see players get smacked in the face, probably harder than this even, when players wind up for blocks and miss the ball and connect to the face. But this just so happened to hit in the perfect spot to draw blood so it's become way larger than what it is, that's the only difference in this situation vs ones we see more frequently...

[JazzMan]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

They're really fining Stewart $950k

That's like almost 40% of his salary this year lol

Nvm I got got by a fake tweet today

[dubcity]

Re: 11/16 - 11/29 Games Discussion Thread

Watch LeBron pay for it lol.

Not really surprising. He acted insane in a building with a history of insane moments. Running people over, etc. League wants no part of that in 2021.