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  • Skins4Life
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2286

    #91
    Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

    Originally posted by jmood88
    Where are the 50 high school players who have trouble adjusting? There has only been 29 high school players drafted. High school players don't enter the draft unless they know that they are going to be drafted in the first round. And do you think that nba coaches don't care about winning? You don't know what you're talking about then.
    If your gonna call me out, READ my posts.

    Originally posted by Skins4Life
    As for some guys who didnt make it, like I said I dont keep track, but here are a few:

    Lenny Cooke
    Taj McDavid
    Ellis Richardson
    Tony Ke
    D'Angelo Collins
    Korleone Young
    guys who made it but get little or no PT:
    Kendrick Perkins
    Travis Outlaw
    Ndudi Ebi
    Daruis Miles (although I like him, what has he done so far)
    These guys were all told they would be drafted in the first round. Lenny Cooke thought he would be a top 3 pick, he said so himself. Where is he now

    Where did I say NBA coaches dont care about winning. THat was my whole point, if they care about winning they are going to get the best players

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    • nbasuperstar40
      Banned
      • Sep 2004
      • 1255

      #92
      Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

      Out of them guys, how many HS stars do they have, look at the satistics

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      • nbasuperstar40
        Banned
        • Sep 2004
        • 1255

        #93
        Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

        Out of them guys, how many HS stars do they have, look at the satistics

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        • jmood88
          Sean Payton: Retribution
          • Jul 2003
          • 34639

          #94
          Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

          Originally posted by SportsmanTO
          I don't think you can rightfully include the Euros in this debate. The culture there is completely different then the culture in North America. The Euro players are brought up from an early age to play basketball and the teaching of the game is based on the fundamentals moreso then the flash and pizazz that we see from HS'ers in NA. The Euros are collegiates in terms of a well rounded game compared to most HS'ers.
          They aren't in college though, they are in their own pro leagues. They have been professionals since they were teenagers and people love their style of play so...
          Originally posted by Blzer
          Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

          If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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          • jmood88
            Sean Payton: Retribution
            • Jul 2003
            • 34639

            #95
            Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

            Originally posted by SportsmanTO
            I don't think you can rightfully include the Euros in this debate. The culture there is completely different then the culture in North America. The Euro players are brought up from an early age to play basketball and the teaching of the game is based on the fundamentals moreso then the flash and pizazz that we see from HS'ers in NA. The Euros are collegiates in terms of a well rounded game compared to most HS'ers.
            They aren't in college though, they are in their own pro leagues. They have been professionals since they were teenagers and people love their style of play so...
            Originally posted by Blzer
            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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            • jmood88
              Sean Payton: Retribution
              • Jul 2003
              • 34639

              #96
              Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

              Originally posted by Skins4Life
              If your gonna call me out, READ my posts.



              These guys were all told they would be drafted in the first round. Lenny Cooke thought he would be a top 3 pick, he said so himself. Where is he now

              Where did I say NBA coaches dont care about winning. THat was my whole point, if they care about winning they are going to get the best players
              I read your posts, you said 50 and listed 6 players that's a huge gap.
              Where did I say NBA coaches dont care about winning. THat was my whole point, if they care about winning they are going to get the best players
              So they draft the players that they think are the best which most times are these high school players. Obviously they know a lot more then you will about coaching and about the league and they have no problems with drafting these players. This age limit is just a way to bail out everyone and shut out players who should be in the league.
              Originally posted by Blzer
              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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              • jmood88
                Sean Payton: Retribution
                • Jul 2003
                • 34639

                #97
                Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                Originally posted by Skins4Life
                If your gonna call me out, READ my posts.



                These guys were all told they would be drafted in the first round. Lenny Cooke thought he would be a top 3 pick, he said so himself. Where is he now

                Where did I say NBA coaches dont care about winning. THat was my whole point, if they care about winning they are going to get the best players
                I read your posts, you said 50 and listed 6 players that's a huge gap.
                Where did I say NBA coaches dont care about winning. THat was my whole point, if they care about winning they are going to get the best players
                So they draft the players that they think are the best which most times are these high school players. Obviously they know a lot more then you will about coaching and about the league and they have no problems with drafting these players. This age limit is just a way to bail out everyone and shut out players who should be in the league.
                Originally posted by Blzer
                Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                • Brankles
                  Banned
                  • May 2003
                  • 5113

                  #98
                  Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                  The argument that for every Lebron James, there's gonna be a Kwame Brown is a horrible argument...

                  Well, for every Shaquille O'Neal there's going to be a Michael Olowokandi...


                  There's busts everywhere. College, high school, European league. Hisorically, there's been many more college busts than there have been High School busts...

                  You can say... "O0o0 look at Kendrick Perkins and D'Angelo Collins and Korleone Young... !!!11!!!" But I can say "Look at Joseph Forte, Mateen Cleaves, Trajan Langdon and William Avery."

                  The draft has always been a crapshoot. You never know what you're getting, no matter who you draft.



                  Holla

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                  • Brankles
                    Banned
                    • May 2003
                    • 5113

                    #99
                    Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                    The argument that for every Lebron James, there's gonna be a Kwame Brown is a horrible argument...

                    Well, for every Shaquille O'Neal there's going to be a Michael Olowokandi...


                    There's busts everywhere. College, high school, European league. Hisorically, there's been many more college busts than there have been High School busts...

                    You can say... "O0o0 look at Kendrick Perkins and D'Angelo Collins and Korleone Young... !!!11!!!" But I can say "Look at Joseph Forte, Mateen Cleaves, Trajan Langdon and William Avery."

                    The draft has always been a crapshoot. You never know what you're getting, no matter who you draft.



                    Holla

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                    • jmood88
                      Sean Payton: Retribution
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 34639

                      #100
                      Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                      Originally posted by Brankles
                      The argument that for every Lebron James, there's gonna be a Kwame Brown is a horrible argument...

                      Well, for every Shaquille O'Neal there's going to be a Michael Olowokandi...


                      There's busts everywhere. College, high school, European league. Hisorically, there's been many more college busts than there have been High School busts...

                      You can say... "O0o0 look at Kendrick Perkins and D'Angelo Collins and Korleone Young... !!!11!!!" But I can say "Look at Joseph Forte, Mateen Cleaves, Trajan Langdon and William Avery."

                      The draft has always been a crapshoot. You never know what you're getting, no matter who you draft.



                      Holla
                      Exactly but people will always somehow blame high school players. And they try to disguise it as wanting what's best for the player but all they care about are their favorite college teams losing some great players.
                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #101
                        Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                        Originally posted by Brankles
                        The argument that for every Lebron James, there's gonna be a Kwame Brown is a horrible argument...

                        Well, for every Shaquille O'Neal there's going to be a Michael Olowokandi...


                        There's busts everywhere. College, high school, European league. Hisorically, there's been many more college busts than there have been High School busts...

                        You can say... "O0o0 look at Kendrick Perkins and D'Angelo Collins and Korleone Young... !!!11!!!" But I can say "Look at Joseph Forte, Mateen Cleaves, Trajan Langdon and William Avery."

                        The draft has always been a crapshoot. You never know what you're getting, no matter who you draft.



                        Holla
                        Exactly but people will always somehow blame high school players. And they try to disguise it as wanting what's best for the player but all they care about are their favorite college teams losing some great players.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • Tha_Kid
                          All Star
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 6550

                          #102
                          Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                          Kwame Brown is definitely coming around this season but theres no doubt in my mind that he would be a SUPERSTAR if he had gone to college for 2-3 years. Definitely...

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                          • Tha_Kid
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 6550

                            #103
                            Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                            Kwame Brown is definitely coming around this season but theres no doubt in my mind that he would be a SUPERSTAR if he had gone to college for 2-3 years. Definitely...

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                            • Programmed2Kill
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14644

                              #104
                              Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                              Originally posted by jmood88
                              Exactly but people will always somehow blame high school players. And they try to disguise it as wanting what's best for the player but all they care about are their favorite college teams losing some great players.


                              Why is it that people who adamantly are for no age limit bring up this as a part of their argument? Last time I checked, college teams always still get great talent. Not every high school kid goes to the NBA. The college game hasn't been decimated that much except for losing out on some superstars, which college b-ball used to have. But that's about it.

                              It's hurt the NBA though because most of those high school kids that declared for the draft were big men. And that is what the NBA is missing. And the high school big men coming in never learned how to be power forwards or centers.

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                              • Programmed2Kill
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 14644

                                #105
                                Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

                                Originally posted by jmood88
                                Exactly but people will always somehow blame high school players. And they try to disguise it as wanting what's best for the player but all they care about are their favorite college teams losing some great players.


                                Why is it that people who adamantly are for no age limit bring up this as a part of their argument? Last time I checked, college teams always still get great talent. Not every high school kid goes to the NBA. The college game hasn't been decimated that much except for losing out on some superstars, which college b-ball used to have. But that's about it.

                                It's hurt the NBA though because most of those high school kids that declared for the draft were big men. And that is what the NBA is missing. And the high school big men coming in never learned how to be power forwards or centers.

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