NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Tthere's no gurantee that going to college would've done anything to them to help them. Like others have said, there's been plenty of great players who have gone to college and been busts so you can't say that college does anything for certain players.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Tthere's no gurantee that going to college would've done anything to them to help them. Like others have said, there's been plenty of great players who have gone to college and been busts so you can't say that college does anything for certain players.

[Programmed2Kill]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

What good job can you get with a high school diploma cause that's news to me. There's a reason that most people go to college.

When you get to be a big boy, you'll find out

Actually that's wrong. There's no gurantee that a player will become that great after going to college and if teams are drafting high school players then they are going to have to cut a vet sometime. You can't say that teams just sign anyone they want without having to give up something. A vet is going to lose playing time or a job.

Ok, so a high school player who has no business entering the draft when projected to be a late 2nd rounder has a better chance at earning a spot or becoming successful than if he went to college? Plus I never said they are guaranteed to become better.

Plus, I seem to remember that rookies out of college take a vet's place also. So, what's your point?

No it isn't good when you consider how much money the ncaa makes off of these players.

If these players didn't have the NCAA, many of them wouldn't be going doing anything at all. Alot wouldn't even be going to college. So, it's a dead even on that issue.

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Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

What good job can you get with a high school diploma cause that's news to me. There's a reason that most people go to college.

When you get to be a big boy, you'll find out

Actually that's wrong. There's no gurantee that a player will become that great after going to college and if teams are drafting high school players then they are going to have to cut a vet sometime. You can't say that teams just sign anyone they want without having to give up something. A vet is going to lose playing time or a job.

Ok, so a high school player who has no business entering the draft when projected to be a late 2nd rounder has a better chance at earning a spot or becoming successful than if he went to college? Plus I never said they are guaranteed to become better.

Plus, I seem to remember that rookies out of college take a vet's place also. So, what's your point?

No it isn't good when you consider how much money the ncaa makes off of these players.

If these players didn't have the NCAA, many of them wouldn't be going doing anything at all. Alot wouldn't even be going to college. So, it's a dead even on that issue.

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Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Where did I say that? I said that some great players aren't going to their teams. Look at the arguments for an age limit, most of them center on how people think that the college game is getting worse and that the best players are starting to go straight to the nba. i don't agree with that but that's what most people have said.

Then you shouldn't have brought it up then in your small tirade against those that said it.

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Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Where did I say that? I said that some great players aren't going to their teams. Look at the arguments for an age limit, most of them center on how people think that the college game is getting worse and that the best players are starting to go straight to the nba. i don't agree with that but that's what most people have said.

Then you shouldn't have brought it up then in your small tirade against those that said it.

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Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Tthere's no gurantee that going to college would've done anything to them to help them. Like others have said, there's been plenty of great players who have gone to college and been busts so you can't say that college does anything for certain players.

And the teams that draft them may never get to see the reward of drafting those players, ala Jermaine O'neal and the Blazers. At least with colelge players, they show you something within the first year or two.

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Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Tthere's no gurantee that going to college would've done anything to them to help them. Like others have said, there's been plenty of great players who have gone to college and been busts so you can't say that college does anything for certain players.

And the teams that draft them may never get to see the reward of drafting those players, ala Jermaine O'neal and the Blazers. At least with colelge players, they show you something within the first year or two.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

When you get to be a big boy, you'll find out

Instead of saying something stupid like that, why don't you actually give an example or explain what you're talking about?

Ok, so a high school player who has no business entering the draft when projected to be a late 2nd rounder has a better chance at earning a spot or becoming successful than if he went to college? Plus I never said they are guaranteed to become better.

Plus, I seem to remember that rookies out of college take a vet's place also. So, what's your point?

A team that has a lottery pick and gets a high schooler out of the first round will have vets who should be worried about their jobs. The vets can't complain about college players because there's no way that they would shut out college players from the draft. So, they do the next best thing and stop the talented first round high schoolers from going into the draft which limits the amount of competition. And a vast majority of high school players who enter the draft will only enter if they know that they are at least going to be picked in the first round.

If these players didn't have the NCAA, many of them wouldn't be going doing anything at all. Alot wouldn't even be going to college. So, it's a dead even on that issue.

So you don't see anything wrong with the obvious exploitation of these players? If the ncaa didn't have these players then they wouldn't make the billions of dollars and there would be no ncaa at all.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

When you get to be a big boy, you'll find out

Instead of saying something stupid like that, why don't you actually give an example or explain what you're talking about?

Ok, so a high school player who has no business entering the draft when projected to be a late 2nd rounder has a better chance at earning a spot or becoming successful than if he went to college? Plus I never said they are guaranteed to become better.

Plus, I seem to remember that rookies out of college take a vet's place also. So, what's your point?

A team that has a lottery pick and gets a high schooler out of the first round will have vets who should be worried about their jobs. The vets can't complain about college players because there's no way that they would shut out college players from the draft. So, they do the next best thing and stop the talented first round high schoolers from going into the draft which limits the amount of competition. And a vast majority of high school players who enter the draft will only enter if they know that they are at least going to be picked in the first round.

If these players didn't have the NCAA, many of them wouldn't be going doing anything at all. Alot wouldn't even be going to college. So, it's a dead even on that issue.

So you don't see anything wrong with the obvious exploitation of these players? If the ncaa didn't have these players then they wouldn't make the billions of dollars and there would be no ncaa at all.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

And the teams that draft them may never get to see the reward of drafting those players, ala Jermaine O'neal and the Blazers. At least with colelge players, they show you something within the first year or two.

Jermaine oneal was in a situation where the blazers didn't need to use him they had alot of talent already at that position. It's the team's fault if they decide no to use the players and if they don't draft players who they know isn't going to make an immediate impact.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

And the teams that draft them may never get to see the reward of drafting those players, ala Jermaine O'neal and the Blazers. At least with colelge players, they show you something within the first year or two.

Jermaine oneal was in a situation where the blazers didn't need to use him they had alot of talent already at that position. It's the team's fault if they decide no to use the players and if they don't draft players who they know isn't going to make an immediate impact.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Then you shouldn't have brought it up then in your small tirade against those that said it.

You asked: "Why is it that people who adamantly are for no age limit bring up this as a part of their argument?"
Which was asked because I said: "they try to disguise it as wanting what's best for the player but all they care about are their favorite college teams losing some great players."
I don't agree that the college game as a whole is getting worse but it is true that teams lose out on some great players and they get mad about that. Ask pdiddy. In another thread he got mad because he thinks that players are holding schools hostage and he was mad because some recruit backed out of his commitment to duke and went to the nba. That's the sentiment of most people who are for the age limit, which is what I said.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Then you shouldn't have brought it up then in your small tirade against those that said it.

You asked: "Why is it that people who adamantly are for no age limit bring up this as a part of their argument?"
Which was asked because I said: "they try to disguise it as wanting what's best for the player but all they care about are their favorite college teams losing some great players."
I don't agree that the college game as a whole is getting worse but it is true that teams lose out on some great players and they get mad about that. Ask pdiddy. In another thread he got mad because he thinks that players are holding schools hostage and he was mad because some recruit backed out of his commitment to duke and went to the nba. That's the sentiment of most people who are for the age limit, which is what I said.

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Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Instead of saying something stupid like that, why don't you actually give an example or explain what you're talking about?

How is it stupid? It's reality. When you graduate high school and learn more about life, you'll know what I'm talking about. Until then, drink your milk.

A team that has a lottery pick and gets a high schooler out of the first round will have vets who should be worried about their jobs. The vets can't complain about college players because there's no way that they would shut out college players from the draft. So, they do the next best thing and stop the talented first round high schoolers from going into the draft which limits the amount of competition. And a vast majority of high school players who enter the draft will only enter if they know that they are at least going to be picked in the first round.

Adding players through the draft means someone has to go ANYWAY. High schooler or collegiate. I don't see the big point of this.

So you don't see anything wrong with the obvious exploitation of these players? If the ncaa didn't have these players then they wouldn't make the billions of dollars and there would be no ncaa at all.

Isn't the NCAA helping these players compete, even on national television, so GMs can scout them so they can make millions in the big league?