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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #16
    Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

    Actually NK in this series Cuban showed the league a total of 28 cases. Along with that, I dont hear much complaining. I think Erod could be because he's in Texas, but if you sit there and say there was never a reason to say anything, then you accept the NBA for what it is no matter what, or you are being very dishonest.

    With that, I dont want to hear any complaining.. I dont want to talk about it and even with this thread, I dont see any Houson fans starting threads about Cuban.

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    • nkhera1
      All Star
      • Oct 2003
      • 5913

      #17
      Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

      Originally posted by KDRE
      Actually NK in this series Cuban showed the league a total of 28 cases. Along with that, I dont hear much complaining. I think Erod could be because he's in Texas, but if you sit there and say there was never a reason to say anything, then you accept the NBA for what it is no matter what, or you are being very dishonest.

      With that, I dont want to hear any complaining.. I dont want to talk about it and even with this thread, I dont see any Houson fans starting threads about Cuban.
      Because of one bad call the league is going to the pits? Bad calls happen all the time.
      Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #18
        Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

        The league has been going to the pit for years.. have you watched basketball more than in the 2000's?

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        • tdawgg
          Rookie
          • Mar 2003
          • 38

          #19
          Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

          hmm cuban's whining is getting tiresome.

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          • coogrfan
            In Fritz We Trust
            • Jul 2002
            • 15645

            #20
            Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

            Originally posted by Erod
            It's all over Houston apparently that the Rockets would have long since won the series if not for the referees.

            Apparently, they believe that the phantom foul called in Game 5 when Finley was in the corner "stole" the game from them. Uh, the Mavs were up 3 with 15 seconds to go. Is not conceivably possible that Finley could have passed out of the double-team? Is it a given you would have made a three or scored twice in the final 15 seconds? Could Dallas not have answered?

            Please.

            In Houston, they think they got robbed by the referees in Games 3, 4, and 5. They don't even consider that Dallas was up 8 with 3 minutes to go in Game 2 and choked the lead.

            The series is exactly how it should be at this point, folks.
            I agree that there has been a lot of whining about officiating down here, and most of it I find just plain embarrasing. The officials and the league do not hate the Rockets, and imo anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The fact is the Rockets folded in crunch time in games 3 and 4. They had Dallas beat and let them escape, end of story.

            Having said that, I have to disagree with you on game 5. Do you happen to recall why were the Mavs up three with 15 secs left? Remember the Finley "steal" with 1:00 to go that resulted in the ft's that made it a two possession game? Imo the Rockets do have a legit gripe in this instance, because that call (and the subsequent phantom foul) essentially ended that game. There was no guarantee that the Rockets win if the refs don't let Finley get away with stripping Barry while Finley had both feet out of bounds. The part that sucks is that a horrible call by an official took away any real shot the Rockets might have had. For that to happen in the pivotal game of a dead-even series is inexcusable.
            Last edited by coogrfan; 05-06-2005, 12:18 PM.

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            • fsulw
              Rookie
              • Jul 2003
              • 225

              #21
              Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

              Originally posted by coogrfan
              I agree that there has been a lot of whining about officiating down here, and most of it I find just plain embarrasing. The officials and the league do not hate the Rockets, and imo anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. The fact is the Rockets folded in crunch time in games 3 and 4. They had Dallas beat and let them escape, end of story.

              Having said that, I have to disagree with you on game 5. Do you happen to recall why were the Mavs up three with 15 secs left? Remember the Finley "steal" with 1:00 to go that made resulted in the ft's that made it a two possession game? Imo the Rockets do have a legit gripe in this instance, because that call (and the subsequent phantom foul) essentially ended that game. There was no guarantee that the Rockets win if the refs don't let Finley get away with stripping Barry while Finley had both feet out of bounds. The part that sucks is that a horrible call by an official took away any real shot the Rockets might have had. For that to happen in the pivotal game of a dead-even series is inexcusable.
              Yea, those calls were very bad. But we still missed those damn free throws and left Stackhouse and Dirk open.
              Football is life.

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              • fsulw
                Rookie
                • Jul 2003
                • 225

                #22
                Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

                Originally posted by fsulw
                Yea, those calls were very bad. But we still missed those damn free throws and left Stackhouse and Dirk open.
                There is no whining, just like everybody else's fans complain around this time of year about the ref's.
                Football is life.

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                • nkhera1
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 5913

                  #23
                  Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

                  Originally posted by KDRE
                  The league has been going to the pit for years.. have you watched basketball more than in the 2000's?
                  I can't comment on that, but just because of one bad call the league is not going into the pits. Maybe it is slowly, but from the way you said it it seems like you meant after this call. BTW I'm not trying to get into a debate with you about who knows more basketball, I just don't get why your so distraught about one call against T-Mac and Houston. There are plenty of bad calls in a game and you can say what if about all of them. What if Yao Ming was called for those moving screens, maybe momentum would have switched and Dallas would have won by 20.
                  Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #24
                    Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

                    I dont think you've read my post correctly. Im not distraught about any call. I didnt start this thread.

                    You just think Im being biased in one way when you arent even paying attention to what Im saying in the first place.

                    My whole gripe is about the NBA"s attitude toward the refs in general period.

                    I could care less about A call. Your reading sure has been backwards the past couple of days NK. Slow down and go over these posts again.


                    BTW, if you think the quality of NBA basketball hasnt declined including reffing and the rule changes, then you need to ask someone, so some studying, then come back and explain to me the heightened dis-interest in the game since 98

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                    • nkhera1
                      All Star
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 5913

                      #25
                      Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

                      Originally posted by KDRE
                      I dont think you've read my post correctly. Im not distraught about any call. I didnt start this thread.

                      You just think Im being biased in one way when you arent even paying attention to what Im saying in the first place.

                      My whole gripe is about the NBA"s attitude toward the refs in general period.

                      I could care less about A call. Your reading sure has been backwards the past couple of days NK. Slow down and go over these posts again.


                      BTW, if you think the quality of NBA basketball hasnt declined including reffing and the rule changes, then you need to ask someone, so some studying, then come back and explain to me the heightened dis-interest in the game since 98

                      LOL Where did I say the NBA is getting better. In my last post I said maybe the league is decling slowly, but you can't blame this on refs making bad call. You can blame it on officiating rules in general, but the refs don't have any control over that. Maybe if people could learn to make jump shots the league wouldn't have to make the stupid rules it has. Also I'm not going to study the diefferntial in amount of calls missed between the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. Maybe I'm interpretating your posts wrong but it seems like you are saying bad calls are leading to the decline of the NBA. Your posts weren't clear to me. Maybe officiating rules in general are leading to a decline, but it certainly isn't a few missed calls a game.
                      Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #26
                        Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

                        Im not blaming the refs for the NBA's decline, and it has been a fast slide. I dont think they ought to change the rules to cater to players who cannot shoot.

                        If they had left the rules as they were, the game would weed out those guys who dont belong anyhow. Its the NBA's fault, and as far as the refs, sometimes they make stupid calls, some good, but why not allow our technology to assist them seeing we all know they aren't perfect?

                        The NBA is not even twitching to take a step at enhancing the ref issues it has... There is where I have a problem.. One day it'll come back to bite the front office in the behind.. just like changing all of the rules has brought the leagues quality and fanbase down.

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                        • poster
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 7506

                          #27
                          Re: Houston's whining getting tiresome

                          Zone defense has killed the league. Colangelo couldnt stop Shaq so he influenced the rules committee to agree with him and they put this garbage in. In college its ok, in the NBA it isnt.

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