The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

[CMH]

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Hahaha.

As for tonight, yea, good game. Liked the defensive intensity. Wonder if maybe the guys will see how beneficial it is to play hard on defense all the time.

[NYJets]

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I don't think Duhon would be bad as a backup point guard, but I wouldn't trade Turiaf for him.

[NDAlum]

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duhon? Why?

Turiaf is much more valuable. He's that blue collar guy off the bench who can give a few fouls and occasionally put up a good game (OKC).

I am just loving seeing Felton thrive and watching Augustin suck down here in Charlotte. The Bobcats drafts have been so terrible in recent memory.

1st round picks:
05: Felton & May --- Felton is a good player, May is out of the league
06: Adam Freakin Morrison!
07: Brandan Wright & Jared Dudley --- Wright has done nothing, Dudley has become decent bench player
08: Augustin & Alexis Ajinca - Bust & nobody
09: Gerald Henderson - Who? I haven't seen him even play this year

Can't say anybody beats that

[bigfnjoe96]

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Didn't get to see the game, but it seemed like we played with a lot of energy, & didn't let-up once we built a big lead. The bench played also played well. Looks like those 3 days off really help Ronnie Turiaf. Shawne Williams played well also & TD finally passed the ball with 3 assists.

Landry Fields, what can you say about this guy. 15 & 10 rebounds. This kid is everything you can ask for in a player. Always doing what needs to be done for TEAM.

Next-Up: Chicago Christmas Afternoon...

[Vast]

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Biggest win of the season without a doubt. They finally beat a contender. If the Knicks could've won against boston and beaten the Cavs we'd be talking about them being a legit threat. But as it stands now it seems that the Knicks when on their game can compete with almost any team in the league.

How long has it been since we could say that?

duhon? Why?

Turiaf is much more valuable. He's that blue collar guy off the bench who can give a few fouls and occasionally put up a good game (OKC).

I am just loving seeing Felton thrive and watching Augustin suck down here in Charlotte. The Bobcats drafts have been so terrible in recent memory.

1st round picks:
05: Felton & May --- Felton is a good player, May is out of the league
06: Adam Freakin Morrison!
07: Brandan Wright & Jared Dudley --- Wright has done nothing, Dudley has become decent bench player
08: Augustin & Alexis Ajinca - Bust & nobody
09: Gerald Henderson - Who? I haven't seen him even play this year

Can't say anybody beats that

Damn. Is Jordan worse than Isiah?

[bigeastbumrush]

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I don't think Duhon would be bad as a backup point guard, but I wouldn't trade Turiaf for him.

You must be out of your mind...no offense.

As far as the OKC game goes...I'll take it. Not gonna get too excited because they had 3 days off and OKC looked sluggish as hell.

If we can beat the Bulls (who are looking good) on Christmas...it will say alot to me. That's a huge game.

[NYJets]

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You must be out of your mind...no offense.

As far as the OKC game goes...I'll take it. Not gonna get too excited because they had 3 days off and OKC looked sluggish as hell.

If we can beat the Bulls (who are looking good) on Christmas...it will say alot to me. That's a huge game.

You think Douglas can run an offense better than him? Duhon has always been a decent backup point guard throughout his career. Just because he was in over his head playing starters minutes with a bunch of **** around him, doesn't mean he's useless.

[bigeastbumrush]

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You think Douglas can run an offense better than him? Duhon has always been a decent backup point guard throughout his career. Just because he was in over his head playing starters minutes with a bunch of **** around him, doesn't mean he's useless.

Yes.

Chris Duhon probably shouldn't even be in the league right now.

[randombrother]

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Knicks knock the bulls off on Christmas

Man there's got to be a way we can keep this squad and get a Melo or other huge leap in talent. Curry should be coming off the books this year right? And we got some leftover cash so I don't see why we can't keep Chandler and add to the squad. I'm loving what I'm seeing from these Knicks.

[NYJets]

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Knicks knock the bulls off on Christmas

Man there's got to be a way we can keep this squad and get a Melo or other huge leap in talent. Curry should be coming off the books this year right? And we got some leftover cash so I don't see why we can't keep Chandler and add to the squad. I'm loving what I'm seeing from these Knicks.

Can't keep everyone. If we sign Melo after the year, can't keep Chandler. If we trade for Melo, and Chandler's not part of the trade, than we could resign him. At least under the current CBA we could.

[Smokey]

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Knicks knock the bulls off on Christmas

Man there's got to be a way we can keep this squad and get a Melo or other huge leap in talent. Curry should be coming off the books this year right? And we got some leftover cash so I don't see why we can't keep Chandler and add to the squad. I'm loving what I'm seeing from these Knicks.

Is there any way they can do some maneuvering with the money they're paying guys like Azubuike, Randolph, and Mason? Azubuike is making $3.3M this year, Mason makes $1.4M and Randolph is making $1.97M. Azubuike, I believe has a team option for next year, so you can assume that money comes off. Mason is only signed for this year, and then, if they don't trade Randolph for a pick, maybe they trade him for an expiring contract. So that would be an extra $5.7 million they can spend. Then they have Curry's $11.2M as well.

Still, at the end of the day the Knicks brass needs to look at how well this roster is playing and ask themselves if completely gutting the roster is worth a superstar who probably doesn't even know how to say defense. They also need to figure out how good they think guys like Gallo, Chandler and Fields can be. They also at least try on the defensive end.

Look at the Heat, sure, they have their three superstars (the new trend) but they're not winning because they're dropping 120 a night, they're winning with defense. Are there cheaper, more defensive minded options out there that will not only allow the Knicks to improve, but to keep a lot of their current talent as well.

I'm not saying don't trade for Melo if you can, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as some people make it out to be. I don't believe it's Carmelo or Bust.

Also, with the tragic death of Melo's sister, I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon. So we should have at least a few more months of this debate. A few months that should give Donnie Walsh an co some answers to the questions above.

[bigfnjoe96]

Did someone say "Block Party".... What a 4th quarter by the Home Team.

Another great game from Landry Fields. That put back on the missed FT was sick.

Cookies matched D Rose & was BIG in the 2nd half.

On to Florida. Play Hard home team & we'll be alright

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[bigeastbumrush]

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Look at the Heat, sure, they have their three superstars (the new trend) but they're not winning because they're dropping 120 a night, they're winning with defense.

^^That was the exact point I made after the Knicks/Nuggets game.

The Knicks are scoring too much. Sounds stupid but they are. I think they lead the league in offensive possessions.

The Knicks can be a 'decent' defensive team if it weren't for the coaching staff. They're league leaders in blocks without Moz and AR playing minutes which is crazy. Team defense works wonders.

I don't know much about Azubuike's game but I think he's a defender? I'd love to see a perimeter defender on this team. Too many late game Isolations by opposing teams to nail us at the end of games (see Pierce).

[Jeffx]

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The Knicks can be a 'decent' defensive team if it weren't for the coaching staff. They're league leaders in blocks without Moz and AR playing minutes which is crazy. Team defense works wonders.

That's why I'm counting the days until D'Anfoni is out.

[Vast]

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^^That was the exact point I made after the Knicks/Nuggets game.

The Knicks are scoring too much. Sounds stupid but they are. I think they lead the league in offensive possessions.

The Knicks can be a 'decent' defensive team if it weren't for the coaching staff. They're league leaders in blocks without Moz and AR playing minutes which is crazy. Team defense works wonders.

I don't know much about Azubuike's game but I think he's a defender? I'd love to see a perimeter defender on this team. Too many late game Isolations by opposing teams to nail us at the end of games (see Pierce).

I don't think there is anything wrong with scoring alot.

But the problem i've seen out of the coaches is when the Knicks have been up by like 16 in the 4th quarter, they continue to run the floor and throw up quick threes when they should be looking to slow down and burn time off the clock.
Which has allowed other teams to mount a comeback and win. Poor coaching in my opinion.