Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
I don't think anyone wants Melo free-styling out there. We just want Woodson to devise plays that take advantage of his strength which is on the elbow and low block.
Trust me, I will want Melo's head to roll if he chucks up bad shots without considering his teammates.
If you devise plays that put Melo in the best position to succeed you keep him happy while also coaching the team. Melo isn't gonna want to take 50 shots. He wants 20. That's fair from the star player on the team. Run plays so Melo is taking 5 shots a quarter from his best spots and he'll hit those shots (because they are his best spots) and will be happy.
If Melo is shooting well, scoring 20+ a game and not taking 25-30 shots a game, we can't blame him for the losses if the above doesn't result in wins."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
Nash is the example? Really? He's a point guard and the poster-child for SSoL. Every point guard does better in SSoL, I thought that was so obvious that I didn't need to mention it in my post. I was talking about non-PG's obviously. Guys like Wilson Chandler, Gallo, etc...they all look better under D'Antoni than elsewhere. Their FG% always goes down elsewhere because they don't get as many good/easy looks.
What elite scorer has ever come into Pringles' system and gone from averaging 26 ppg to 31 ppg?
"Just play" is simply a basketball term associated with players who think too much. There aren't many things worse as a basketball player than over-thinking on the court. No one wants Melo doing whatever he wants, iso'ing 25 times a game or shooting 30 times a night. That's not what I meant.And no thanks. I don't want to see Melo "just playing". I've seen him "just playing" since he came in this league.
Why shouldn't Melo have a green light? There's a problem if one of the best scorers in the league doesn't have the green light. And it's funny that SSoL is always ragged on for being a system where everyone has the green light yet it's the one time Melo was hesitant?What we saw from Melo was just a guy who had a green light and that's the only way he can function.
The only thing that's proven is that we cannot win with this roster and Pringles as the coach.Problem is...we will not win. It's proven.
I don't think that's the case. Most systems in the NBA are similar enough outside of Pringles and the Triangle really. We've never seen an elite scorer go into SSoL before, we have no idea how others would have fared. All we know is Melo can't fit into SSoL, that's it.Not sure how any long time Knick fan can be happy with this.
Again...I am not defending D'Antoni. Just the simple fact that Melo cannot perform in any system other than his own."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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This is just not true. Melo is a weapon. A very good weapon when used wisely.
D'antoni either did not know how, or refused to use him wisely. All that boring ISO crap we saw this year is not the way to use Melo effectively.
Melo was not the reason we lost basketball games. The coach was.
Steve Nash is a good player in any system.
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
Maybe what Melo needs is the Triangle.... hint hintOriginally posted by G PericoComment
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Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?
It's what I've wanted. Let them die with their stars if that's how it turns out.
But at least then the finger-pointing will make sense.
I, however, doubt the above happens. I think the Knicks play better with Amar'e and Melo leading the charge.
They are the star players. Lin is an average player. The solution is obvious to me."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Just like Berman to spew anything to stir up the pot. Woodson said nothing yesterday about benching Lin.
What he did say was everyone needs to understand their roles & cherish their minutes.
Bottom line Woodson will be holding people accountable, but also wants people to play their games & not do too much. Share the load.
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The part of the article which was great was the Woodson said he is going to slow down the offense. Great move.
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I think BD in the starting lineup makes sense. Lin is pretty much a rookie - there's nothing wrong with coming off the bench. His game might fit the second unit better anyways plus BD will command more respect from the vets/stars than Lin.
I guess I've always preferred watching good team ball over isolations/post-ups. When the D'Antoni system was clicking it was truly a thing of beauty. We'll see how this half-court, downtempo style works for them going forward but it definitely won't be as interesting to watch.Comment
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Not seeing too much different on offense (which Woodson said would be the case). I have noticed that Chandler is receiving the ball inside the three point line rather than behind it when they run that set (whatever it is called).
The big difference for me is the Knicks on D. Saw some traps on the ball handler and instead of simple switches, the Knicks are doubling and forcing the ball handler to force a pass to the roller.
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"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Novak.
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