The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

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  • GOBLUE_08
    Pro
    • Aug 2008
    • 833

    #1006
    Originally posted by GiantYankee
    I might be missing something, but I can't see Calipari leaving Kentucky to coach the Knicks. He has a chance to finish with 3 or 4 titles in college.
    True but if that's the case, why would any college coach leave for the nba? Or any pro sport for that matter. They do it because college ball is still essentially middle management in the sports world. I know the Knicks aren't the greatest or anything but that job is nothing to sneeze at, he would make a ton of money and get plenty of exposure, maybe even make a playoff run or two.

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28959

      #1007
      Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

      Originally posted by GiantYankee
      I might be missing something, but I can't see Calipari leaving Kentucky to coach the Knicks. He has a chance to finish with 3 or 4 titles in college.
      Money. I wouldn't be surprised if we did something stupid like threw and $8-10m annual salary at him.

      Many people, mostly with probably no credibility, say he still has the itch to coach in the NBA again and that's his real dream. Also, granted he shouldn't have to do his typical shady stuff to win at UK, there's always the chance that he he'll to leave UK just like he left UMass and Memphis if things get hairy with the NCAA.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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      • djep
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 1128

        #1008
        Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

        He also got fired from his lone NBA head coaching gig so he has something to prove. I'd rather they keep Woodson than bring in Cal. Maybe it's just the honeymoon period but the guy has done a great job under very difficult circumstances.

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        • eF 5ive
          MVP
          • May 2011
          • 2068

          #1009
          Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

          was at the easter game and it was awesome.

          Hope everyone who ever thought/talked about a good trade to get melo out of NY is removing their foot from their mouth right now.
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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #1010
            Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

            Don't see why Calipari should be a hot name for an NBA job. He wasn't good in his first go around, and in college he's known more for being a great recruiter than x's and o's. It would make no sense for a team to offer him a huge money contract, or to replace a guy who's doing a good job with him.
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            • GOBLUE_08
              Pro
              • Aug 2008
              • 833

              #1011
              Originally posted by eF 5ive
              was at the easter game and it was awesome.

              Hope everyone who ever thought/talked about a good trade to get melo out of NY is removing their foot from their mouth right now.
              *raises hand*

              I've always been hard on Melo though, even when he was at Syracuse. I really wanna be a fan but knowing that he has all that talent and to see him just being flat out lazy sometimes is crazy. I honestly hated the trade for us to get him at first but he keeps playing like this and I will gladly change my tune.

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              • bigfnjoe96
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 11410

                #1012
                Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                Pavvy has done it again..... I'm crazy hype right now

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                • Vast
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 4015

                  #1013
                  Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                  Originally posted by Vast
                  I'ma say this right now. He's already the best perimeter defender the Knicks have had since...... Walt Clyde. I haven't even seen Walt play, I just can't think of any other defensive guard on the Knicks with his skill level.
                  I know I was talking crazy at the time, but can someone tell me where they think Shumpert stands defensively against former Knick guards.
                  I don't remember ever having a defensive stud at the guard position. The only names that come to mind are:

                  Derek Harper (old at the time we got him)
                  Doc Rivers (ditto)
                  Starks was ok.
                  Childs lol
                  Last edited by Vast; 04-10-2012, 06:34 PM.
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                  • GOBLUE_08
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 833

                    #1014
                    Originally posted by Vast
                    I know I was talking crazy at the time, but can someone tell me where they think Shumpert lies defensively against former Knick guards.
                    I don't remember ever having a defensive stud at the guard position. The only names that come to mind are:

                    Derek Harper (old at the time we got him)
                    Doc Rivers (ditto)
                    Starks was ok.
                    Childs lol
                    Yup, I was gonna say starks was good when he wasn't having one of those idgaf days(more often than not) and I can't think of anybody else.

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                    • Vast
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 4015

                      #1015
                      Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                      Originally posted by GOBLUE_08
                      Yup, I was gonna say starks was good when he wasn't having one of those idgaf days(more often than not) and I can't think of anybody else.
                      Thanks. My memory isn't what it used to be. When we have a lineup of Shumpert at the 1, J.R. at the 2, Fields at the 3, Melo at the 4 and Chandler at the 5.- defensively it is extremely formidable and can shut any team down depending on the night.
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                      • GiantYankee
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 717

                        #1016
                        Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                        Originally posted by GOBLUE_08
                        True but if that's the case, why would any college coach leave for the nba? Or any pro sport for that matter. They do it because college ball is still essentially middle management in the sports world. I know the Knicks aren't the greatest or anything but that job is nothing to sneeze at, he would make a ton of money and get plenty of exposure, maybe even make a playoff run or two.
                        It's probably more individual preferences. I'm sure there are many coaches that start in college with the hope of moving to NBA. On the other hand there are probably a ton of college coaches that have no interest in the NBA.

                        Originally posted by ehh
                        Money. I wouldn't be surprised if we did something stupid like threw and $8-10m annual salary at him.

                        Many people, mostly with probably no credibility, say he still has the itch to coach in the NBA again and that's his real dream. Also, granted he shouldn't have to do his typical shady stuff to win at UK, there's always the chance that he he'll to leave UK just like he left UMass and Memphis if things get hairy with the NCAA.
                        If his dream is to coach NBA then I can understand that. The Kentucky job and the potential to be considered a top all-time college coach seems to me like enough incentive to stay. I really hope the Knicks don't go after him.
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                        • Jeffx
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3045

                          #1017
                          Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          Money. I wouldn't be surprised if we did something stupid like threw and $8-10m annual salary at him.

                          Many people, mostly with probably no credibility, say he still has the itch to coach in the NBA again and that's his real dream. Also, granted he shouldn't have to do his typical shady stuff to win at UK, there's always the chance that he he'll to leave UK just like he left UMass and Memphis if things get hairy with the NCAA.
                          It wouldn't shock me one bit if the Knicks made a push for Calipari - remember who owns this team.

                          As for Cal's "shadiness", I'll say this - If I had a son who was great at hoops, I'd want him to play for Calipari. He can coach and to quote columnist Dave Zirin, ".....if you want a relationship with a coach that's honest and real and actually helps you excel within the corrupt ecosystem that is the NCAA, then this is the one you want in your corner."

                          Zirin called Calipari "a wolf in a sea of foxes". Who would you rather deal with? I'd rather deal with a wolf - like Malcolm X once said, at least you know where the wolf is coming from.

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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28959

                            #1018
                            Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                            I had the fortune tonight of getting some free Event Level Suite tickets to tonight's game. I've never sat in anything better than the 300's for a Knicks game. Sat closer for some college games over the years but never even close to this.

                            We were six rows back, top of the key/3PT line extended on the Wizard's bench side. Just an amazing experience, it made me feel like a kid again and it's something I'll always remember. I didn't want the night to end.

                            Hung around for a solid 20 minutes after the final buzzer. Saw John Starks, Sam Perkins and Kevin Johnson either walk by our seats or back in the suite area. Very cool, KJ is tiny. All I could think of was his dunk on Olajuwon and thinking DAMN, a dude that small really did that.

                            On to the pics...









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                            • DiceMan
                              NBA All Life Team
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2049

                              #1019
                              Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                              Great seats ehh!
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                              • ballsohard
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 640

                                #1020
                                Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                                Who would you guys rather play in the playoffs Chicago or Miami? I think with Rose still looking hurt, I'd rather play the Bulls.

                                Originally posted by eF 5ive
                                was at the easter game and it was awesome.

                                Hope everyone who ever thought/talked about a good trade to get melo out of NY is removing their foot from their mouth right now.
                                Not me. He is ballin' now, but that doesn't excuse what he was doing in the beginning of the season. When times get tough who's to say he won't quit on Woodson?

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