The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

[djep]

Well Arod's got 5 more years at close to $28 million per and I still think the booing for him is unfair.

Either way, this is a lot of $$ for Lin. I'm almost inclined to let him walk even though I think he is going to be a really good pg. They have a win now team and he is more of a project type player.

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[djep]

Now it looks like they are going to let Lin walk as they are closing in on ray felton. And not going to match toronto for fields.

So they are going to let two more of their promising young players go in favor of a couple of veterans past their prime. Not a fan of these moves at all. It'd be one thing if they were knocking on the door for a championship but that is so far from the case.

These are some pricey contracts for two guys who have much to prove but it's not a good offseason when you lose 2 of your top 3 "+/- guys".


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[bigeastbumrush]

Oh please.

Our 3rd string PG is more game ready than Lin.

And Landry had more than enough opportunity to prove his worth.

How does a professional NBA SG lose arc on his jump shot over the summer?

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[NYJetsfan]

They are willing to run this year with felton/Kidd to make a run at CP3 next year. As a complete non-believer in Lin, I love it.

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[DieHardYankee26]

They are willing to run this year with felton/Kidd to make a run at CP3 next year. As a complete non-believer in Lin, I love it.

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I can't see any way CP3 actually ends up here, and after all the free agents that "planned" to come here and didn't, I'm gonna assume he's not going to.

P.S. You and NYJets totally confuse me when you guys post. You're anti-Lin, he's pro-Lin. I keep thinking its like one very confused person

[NYJetsfan]

I can't see any way CP3 actually ends up here, and after all the free agents that "planned" to come here and didn't, I'm gonna assume he's not going to.

P.S. You and NYJets totally confuse me when you guys post. You're anti-Lin, he's pro-Lin. I keep thinking its like one very confused person

I'm the Yin to his Yang about Lin.

After a few minutes of thought, I'm all for bringing Lin back....at SG. I think he's better suited there anyway.

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[NYJetsfan]

Felton/Kidd
Lin/Smith
Melo/Novak
Amare/Thomas
Chandler/I have no idea any more

Shump at numerous spots when he's back.

I like it.

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[CMH]

Felton/Kidd
Lin/Smith
Melo/Novak
Amare/Thomas
Chandler/I have no idea any more

Shump at numerous spots when he's back.

I like it.

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Camby!


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[NYJets]

Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

DWI for Jason Kidd

http://southampton.patch.com/articles/basketball-star-jason-kidd-arrested-on-dwi-charge

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

Thinking about what to think about the Lin situation and decided to watch Pavvy's video again...

What the **** are we thinking? We were a God awful, absolute garbage team before Lin. I don't care that he only started in 25 games. I don't care that Linsanity happened against terrible teams. The bottom line is that this kid came in, took over games, and willed this team to play half decently in a time when our max players were out. Without Lin, we have an extremely ****ty season, and are calling for a complete blow up. We need this kid. Take out Linsanity, he still averaged 15 and 6 after those games. When our whole team was healthy + Lin under Woodson, we were 6 -1 blowing by teams.

His contract has absolutely no effect on our cap situation, as we will be well over either way. I don't care that he's going to make Dolan millions with jersey sales in the Asian market and I don't expect him to put up 25 and 9 like he did during Linsanity. Raymond Felton was terrible last season and I don't trust him to do anything but tip over the bench when he goes to sit down. Kidd cannot play a ton of minutes, and would be the perfect mentor to help Lin cut down on turnovers. If we have this 3 year window before everybody comes off the books, and management is going to tell us that we're going for it, then ****ing go for it. Match Lin and let's do this.

There is no basketball argument that says Felton is better than Lin. Felton played well under D'Antoni, Lin played well under D'Antoni. Lin played well under Woodson, Felton hasn't played under him and has played like absolute horse **** in the stops after we traded him. Not only is Lin at the very worst just as good as Felton, but he has the potential to become far better. If we're going to go for it, then let's go for it because I cannot see Felton leading this team to the promise land. Maybe you can't see Lin doing it either, but he actually has a chance to become a better, more efficient player. Maybe you guys believe in Felton, I don't have any reason to believe in him at this point. Maybe the Knicks don't match Lin and Felton proves me wrong, Hell, I'd love that. But as of right now I don't see how not matching Lin is beneficial to this franchise in any way.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

Jason Kidd @ the club:

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[bigeastbumrush]

Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

@DieHard

Last season was a perfect storm.

The Knicks got off to a slow start because:
-Amare was coming off his back injury and hadn't played. Also put on 10lbs of muscle. And D'Antoni had him playing the Stretch 4.
-Melo was supposed to be Larry Bird and be a distributor.
-Shumpert got injured Game 1 and probably came back too early from that.

The Knicks don't need Lin. Would he be nice to have? Sure. But they don't need him as if he's one of their best players.

And if you look at Lin's numbers after the Linsanity streak when Melo and Amare came back...they're only slightly better than Felton's numbers on a Portland squad that had far less talent around them and absolutely nothing to play for.

And that stuff about Lin is all well and good but where was he during the playoffs? If he was at 85% what % was Amare at a week after hand surgery on the floor playing with one hand?

[DieHardYankee26]

That's the thing: if they're already better than Felton, and we know what he can do, why change the formula? If we're going for it, we need some level of consistency and not go at it with a city built from scratch. We already know our starting lineup with Lin has worked for us and the contract has no real bearing on the cap, why not match?

Do you think we're a contender with Felton? Maybe you don't, and maybe you don't think we're a contender with Lin either, but he has a chance of being even better than he already is. His floor is Felton, who knows what his ceiling could be with tutelage under one of the greatest distributors ever?

And yeah the playoffs thing is disconcerting, but apparently Melo and Tyson told him not to risk it if he wasn't ready. Also, he said he was 85% but there were reports that he couldn't run, cut, or jump so I'm not really sure on that either way.

And like I said, it's not a great confidence in Lin as much as its a lack of confidence in Felton. I think with Ljn we're at least as good as we are with Felton, possibly considerably better. Might as well match. If we're going to go for it, then go for it.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

I think Felton is more ready to lead a team than Lin is right now. In my opinion..Felton is more game ready on both sides of the ball.

Contender says you can compete with the best team in the league...Miami.

I'd put my money on Felton right now to have a more competitive showing against them than Lin.

The fact is that has Lin looked really good against bad teams. The sample size is too small to say that he's as good as people are trying to make him out to be. He looked very ordinary after D'Antoni was fired and he did not play that well with both Melo and Amare on the floor.

I feel all of this is moot because I think that the Knicks will see the dollar signs and match Lin on Tuesday.

[ehh]

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I tell ya if we actually decide to not match then Grunwald had a slick off season at ****ing over other teams. First he boned the Raptors, granted that was more their own stupidity, with Fields getting an awful, awful contract. Toronto thought they were slick by stealing an asset so we couldn't get Nash and they wound up missing out on Nash and getting stuck with Fields.

And now, after the initial offer sheet with Houston came out, the Knicks were all over the media saying they were matching it - no questions asked. Then Houston upped their offer, probably thinking the Knicks would still match it, and then Grunwald shows his hand and says, "You want him, you got him. Enjoy overpaying the hell out of an average-at-best PG". Boss.