The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #901
    Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

    Defense in New York? It must be 1994.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • bigfnjoe96
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 11410

      #902
      Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

      This is soooooooooo refreshing to watch. Our DEFENSE is creating our Offense.
      4 straight Double Digit Wins. I believe we've held every opponent in this winning streak under 90.

      We're also Rebounding the ball very well. Tonight we had 16 Offensive Rebounds while only giving up 4, out-rebounding the Raptors 46-30

      Can't wait til tomorrow night

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #903
        It would have been under 90 but the Pacers scored 42 in the 4th using their starters against the B Squad in their 115-100 loss.


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        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • Jdoug312
          Banned
          • Oct 2010
          • 1585

          #904
          Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

          Hey so where does everyone see the Knicks going now that Woodson has taken over? I only go the watch end of the 3rd, and all of 4th quarter yesterday and I saw nice D, comradery, etc but how far will that take them with this roster?

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          • bigfnjoe96
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 11410

            #905
            Originally posted by Jdoug312
            Hey so where does everyone see the Knicks going now that Woodson has taken over? I only go the watch end of the 3rd, and all of 4th quarter yesterday and I saw nice D, comradery, etc but how far will that take them with this roster?
            Honestly, this team has the roster to make a serious run in the playoffs, If they can keep playing like they've been playing. Believing Woody's philosophy of Defense creates Offense.

            You can see the difference. The teams is playing Defense

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            • Nathan_OS
              MVP
              • Jun 2011
              • 4462

              #906
              Carmelo Anthony on the Knicks
              I think now we’re playing at a different level, a very high level,”
              PSN: MajorJosephx

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #907
                Originally posted by Nathan_OS
                Carmelo Anthony on the Knicks
                I think now we’re playing at a different level, a very high level,”
                They definitely are though the post game team did ask why it had to take D'Antoni leaving the post for that to happen.

                It seems they tried to avoid the obvious (I'm not sure how much power Dolan has over post game comments) which is: they didn't want to play for D'Antoni.

                And it wasn't just Anthony.


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                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • djep
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1128

                  #908
                  Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                  Anthony admitting that he's playing harder on defense now than he has all year is a little alarming but there is no doubt he is playing great. His shot is still not falling but in the past that would mean he was invisible for the game. Not anymore - he's been playing great D, hitting the boards and moving the ball well.

                  This has been a season of starts and stops. Let's hope this is the way they play the rest of the year.

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28959

                    #909
                    Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                    I think it really is that simple that Pringles never held anyone accountable. Screaming at Toney Douglas isn't going to fool anyone into thinking you run a tight ship.

                    Even if these are professional athletes they still need structure and need to be held accountable. Very few people in this world will work as hard on their own as they will if someone is on top of them, watching them and holding them accountable for their actions.
                    "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                    "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                    • CMH
                      Making you famous
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #910
                      Originally posted by ehh
                      I think it really is that simple that Pringles never held anyone accountable. Screaming at Toney Douglas isn't going to fool anyone into thinking you run a tight ship.

                      Even if these are professional athletes they still need structure and need to be held accountable. Very few people in this world will work as hard on their own as they will if someone is on top of them, watching them and holding them accountable for their actions.
                      I had a long discussion with a friend that believes D'Antoni wasn't the problem and he kept insisting that D'Antoni wanted to hold guys accountable and upper management wouldn't allow it.

                      I had to ask him to show proof because there was never any indication that D'Antoni wasn't being allowed to run the team his way.

                      Yes Anthony quit on him and we both eventually agreed that he shouldn't be absolved of that but till this day he believes D'Antoni wasn't allowed to run his ship.

                      We've seen it. D'Antoni never held anyone accountable. He had that one moment when he benched Anthony and Stoudemire but it seemed forced.


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                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • Vast
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 4015

                        #911
                        Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                        Exactly we were talking about this a few pages back. We couldn't understand how D'antoni could let all those issues happen without getting upset or holding these players accountable. The guy was just collecting a check, and i'm glad the players quit on him and he resigned.
                        He is absolutely the worst coach to have going into a playoff series.

                        Woodson is awesome. He gets in your face when he sees an issue and then gives you a high five a few minutes later. Thats how it should be. It's nothing personal, he's just trying to get the most out of his players and minimize mistakes. You know... coaching.

                        Stat is actually playing some defense out there. lol. There is one thing i still dont like. Stat still sets crappy picks. Its an improvement but still not where we need it to be.

                        My prediction: Knicks beat the Sixers tonight by double figures.
                        Last edited by Vast; 03-21-2012, 06:36 PM.
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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #912
                          If the Knicks beat the Sixers by double digits then they are truly where they should be.

                          Not expecting them to beat the Bulls or Heat in a 7-game series but I do think they should be able to play with the Magic and Hawks.


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                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • Vast
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 4015

                            #913
                            Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                            Originally posted by CMH
                            If the Knicks beat the Sixers by double digits then they are truly where they should be.

                            Not expecting them to beat the Bulls or Heat in a 7-game series but I do think they should be able to play with the Magic and Hawks.


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                            They're up 11-2 in the first. They can blow this wide open if they play smart.
                            "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28959

                              #914
                              Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                              Great start on the defensive end tonight. I can't believe this team is playing THIS type of defense.
                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                              • eF 5ive
                                MVP
                                • May 2011
                                • 2068

                                #915
                                Re: The 2012 New York Knicks: The Filler Year?

                                You can't get an orange and tell it to be a lemon.

                                Dantoni failed to utilize the strength of this team. I think players seen what talent they have and were just upset that dantoni failed to utilize that talent.

                                I just get mad at dude during post game, or pre game interviews. I remember when they were playing OKC and they asked what their game plan was for KD and he laughed and said "We have a game plan?"

                                And after losses it was like "We scored 94, they scored 106... If we outscore them we walk away winners."

                                Yeah, no **** dick head. Lin was his lifeline and he rode him hard. I was waiting for a Lin injury with all the minutes he was putting on that kid.
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