Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...
We need some defensive philosphies
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We need some defensive philosphies
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Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...
Not surprised. Fisher just saying stuff during interviews and pressers that made you scratch your head.
As was said, this shows Phil means business.
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Agreed with everybody in here. But despite that I didn't see it coming. I'm glad tho. We need a better coach. I stopped watching cuz of him.
What about Rambis? Thibs is obviously a good coach but, why was he fired again?"I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston ChurchillComment
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That's what folks in Chi seem to think. I think it also had something to do with the offense, or lack there of, the Bulls ran. But I guess that ties into not getting along with management, in a way.
I can't see Thibs with this roster tho (*clears throat loudly*Melo*clears throat loudly*)
Not cuz he's lazy or anything, but I think Thibs' demands stuff from his players on a level that Melo might not be down for at this point in his career. He can say that he is, but from what I hear, Thibs didn't coddle Rose, so... Saying it is one thing, but..
It would be tremendous for the Knicks, but I dunno if I see it happening.Comment
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I think Melo would embrace Thibs.
Don't think there's any chance though. Phil is saying the exact same stuff about what he's looking for in a coach as before he hired Fisher, and last time around they didn't look at anyone outside of his circle.Originally posted by Jay BilasComment
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Clemons,cartwright,rambis,fisher,shaw, etc etc
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Unfortunately, don't expect much to change.
We all know Thibs should get the first call. Hand him a $20 MM, 3 year deal with an option and call it a day.
I don't mind the principles of the triangle but I think there's a difference between living the triangle and having been coached in the triangle.
Jackson's tree fails because they don't live the triangle. They just learned the concept and applied it. But whatever it takes to embrace the philosophy isn't there and it becomes difficult to coach an idea then it is to coach the expected behaviors.
Teams under the tree always look methodical because their taught to move a certain unnatural way. Not suggesting Jackson coach but he needs to be hands on in the principle rather than expecting a coach to preach what he doesn't embrace.
Kerr is a good example of a coach that understood the idea and taught that but didn't restrict himself to teaching the movements.
Jackson has to either be a part of the learning process everyday or let a coach do what Kerr got the chance to do. Teach the idea under the guise of an offense that works for the players.
Instead we will get Brian Shaw and I guarantee it will be laughed at by everyone.
Walton isn't coming here. Kerr has been in that man's ear. It's okay to love and respect Phil but Kerr knows that you can't be a coach under him.
Surprisingly all that Jackson is enforcing of his coaches goes against the triangle. Which is crazy to me. He is so hell bent on the movements rather than the philosophy. But in the same breath talks philosophy as if they are one in the same with the movements."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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Kerr also had the benefit of learning from Pop. Which no one ever brings up.
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Also Kerr took over a team that was already on the rise. He didn't build it. He just came in at the right time when everything was already in place
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Phil needs to ditch the loyalty of his playing/coaching tree with this next hire. Shaw is every bit as bad as Fisher so I don't believe he's a real candidate. Phil is aware of that.
He's also a fool if he won't even consider Thibs but I will say that if it comes down to some retread and Luke Walton I'd rather take a flier on a young coach. I don't like giving guys with no experience a head job but I hate bringing in retread/proven failures even more."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Thibs needs to be the hire
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