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  • NYJets
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 18637

    #646
    Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

    D-Will on that contract wouldn't have been bad to have back. With all the money that's going to go around he's going to get paid by some dumb team.
    Originally posted by Jay Bilas
    The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #647
      Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

      Originally posted by NYJets
      D-Will on that contract wouldn't have been bad to have back. With all the money that's going to go around he's going to get paid by some dumb team.
      For sure. I'd rather have every penny available this summer though, even if the FA class isn't all that exciting. Worst comes to worst then Phil does the same thing and finds a couple more placeholders on short/flexible deals.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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      • bigeastbumrush
        My Momma's Son
        • Feb 2003
        • 19245

        #648
        Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

        We need an infusion of talent. The players haven't been developing for whatever reason (the system, Fisher's lineup changes, Grant's freeze out by Phil & Rambis, playing Galloway at PG, etc.).

        I'm tired of the stop gap players.

        We need a legit SG and a rebounding/physical big.

        I have no idea who can fill those roles in FA or trade, but Phil needs to stop effing around. We need to be a playoff team by any means necessary.

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        • DieHardYankee26
          BING BONG
          • Feb 2008
          • 10178

          #649
          Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

          A reddit thread on our cap situation if anyone's interested:

          https://www.reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/co...cap_situation/

          Notable Cap Space Options:

          Currently has $12.3 million in free cap space as the rights to the pending free agents have not been renounced.
          Renounce all pending free agents: $24.8 million and 9 PUC.
          Renounce all pending free agents except Galloway & Thomas: $20 million and 9 PUC.
          Renounce all pending free agents and both Afflalo & Williams opt out of their POs: $37.4 million and 7 PUC.
          Renounce all pending free agents and Afflalo opts out of his PO: $32.8 million and 8 PUC.
          Renounce all pending free agents and Williams opts out of his PO: $29.4 million and 8 PUC.
          Renounce all pending free agents except Galloway & Thomas as well as both Afflalo & Williams opt out of their POs: $32.6 million and 7 PUC.
          Renounce all pending free agents except Galloway & Thomas as well as Afflalo opts out of his PO: $28 million and 8 PUC.
          Renounce all pending free agents except Galloway & Thomas as well as Williams opts out of his PO: $24.6 million and 8 PUC.
          I'm hoping we keep Gallo (he's my guy and very affordable) and Lance Thomas (surprised me a lot and would be worth keeping around for the money). I'm not sure on who we are looking at in the draft but Grant needs to be unleashed next year, we need to really see if this guy is a part of this team. I'm optimistic Hornacek can do some good with him because he's good with PG's. He needs to be taking 1000 jumpers a day from all over the court this summer for sure. It'll also be interesting to see what happens with KP's old C we have stashed over in Spain and if he comes over.

          Also, I want nothing more than Melo to get a ring here man. I really feel like he deserves it lol. He's been here, he doesn't talk **** or stir the pot, he's actively trying to tutor guys, recruit guys, have a hand in where the franchise is going...and he loves the ****ing team like we do. But people give him ****. I hate it.
          Last edited by DieHardYankee26; 06-21-2016, 04:02 PM.
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          • gmac0322
            MVP
            • Aug 2009
            • 1650

            #650
            Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

            Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
            A reddit thread on our cap situation if anyone's interested:

            https://www.reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/co...cap_situation/



            I'm hoping we keep Gallo (he's my guy and very affordable) and Lance Thomas (surprised me a lot and would be worth keeping around for the money). I'm not sure on who we are looking at in the draft but Grant needs to be unleashed next year, we need to really see if this guy is a part of this team. I'm optimistic Hornacek can do some good with him because he's good with PG's. He needs to be taking 1000 jumpers a day from all over the court this summer for sure. It'll also be interesting to see what happens with KP's old C we have stashed over in Spain and if he comes over.

            Also, I want nothing more than Melo to get a ring here man. I really feel like he deserves it lol. He's been here, he doesn't talk **** or stir the pot, he's actively trying to tutor guys, recruit guys, have a hand in where the franchise is going...and he loves the ****ing team like we do. But people give him ****. I hate it.
            I am with you. I know we are probably in the minority. Enough with Calderon as our starting pg. Let Grant and Galloway play

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #651
              Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

              Originally posted by gmac0322
              I am with you. I know we are probably in the minority. Enough with Calderon as our starting pg. Let Grant and Galloway play

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              Nah you're not in the minority. Knicks fans are fed up with Calderon.


              And just realizing you were probably talking about Melo. If so, I'm with you. And we are definitely in the minority.
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • gmac0322
                MVP
                • Aug 2009
                • 1650

                #652
                Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                Originally posted by CMH
                Nah you're not in the minority. Knicks fans are fed up with Calderon.


                And just realizing you were probably talking about Melo. If so, I'm with you. And we are definitely in the minority.
                Ha ha yup I was talking about Melo. We are seeing things the same way.

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                • bigeastbumrush
                  My Momma's Son
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19245

                  #653
                  Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                  Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                  A reddit thread on our cap situation if anyone's interested:

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/co...cap_situation/



                  I'm hoping we keep Gallo (he's my guy and very affordable) and Lance Thomas (surprised me a lot and would be worth keeping around for the money). I'm not sure on who we are looking at in the draft but Grant needs to be unleashed next year, we need to really see if this guy is a part of this team. I'm optimistic Hornacek can do some good with him because he's good with PG's. He needs to be taking 1000 jumpers a day from all over the court this summer for sure. It'll also be interesting to see what happens with KP's old C we have stashed over in Spain and if he comes over.

                  Also, I want nothing more than Melo to get a ring here man. I really feel like he deserves it lol. He's been here, he doesn't talk **** or stir the pot, he's actively trying to tutor guys, recruit guys, have a hand in where the franchise is going...and he loves the ****ing team like we do. But people give him ****. I hate it.
                  Well you're gonna hate me

                  Melo doesn't love the team IMO. Melo loves his brand.

                  For the simple fact that he even considered going to LAL shows that.

                  Obviously I don't know what goes on behind closed doors but who says he's tutoring players?Melo never has been a vocal leader and it is not a requirement but he is what he has always been: a scorer.

                  And he had no part in free agency last year as he had other ventures he was dealing with.

                  To me...you had non-native born NYers who had way more passion for the team and city than Melo does. Would be nostalgia naming them but Oak, Sprewell, LJ, Starks, etc would bleed for that jersey.

                  I don't see that passion to win from Melo that I see from other players around the league.

                  /rant
                  /soapbox

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                  • NYJets
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 18637

                    #654
                    Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                    Well you're gonna hate me

                    Melo doesn't love the team IMO. Melo loves his brand.

                    For the simple fact that he even considered going to LAL shows that.

                    Obviously I don't know what goes on behind closed doors but who says he's tutoring players?Melo never has been a vocal leader and it is not a requirement but he is what he has always been: a scorer.

                    And he had no part in free agency last year as he had other ventures he was dealing with.

                    To me...you had non-native born NYers who had way more passion for the team and city than Melo does. Would be nostalgia naming them but Oak, Sprewell, LJ, Starks, etc would bleed for that jersey.

                    I don't see that passion to win from Melo that I see from other players around the league.

                    /rant
                    /soapbox
                    I don't know if the LA thing is fair. Almost every player considers LA. Lamarcus Aldridge wanted to go LA, and after they messed up the meeting, gave them another chance just hoping they'd impress him enough

                    Leadership is hard to tell without being there, but he's definitely taken a big role in mentoring Porzingis at least.
                    Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                    The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                    • gmac0322
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1650

                      #655
                      Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                      Just saw this


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                      • NYJets
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 18637

                        #656
                        Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                        Originally posted by NYJets
                        Plus "internal discussions" doesn't mean anything.
                        Told ya'll.
                        Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                        The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                        • Gilley
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 634

                          #657
                          Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                          I'm going to miss RoLo
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                          • bigeastbumrush
                            My Momma's Son
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 19245

                            #658
                            Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                            Like I said...infusion of talent!!!

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                            • gmac0322
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1650

                              #659
                              Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                              If we pick up Howard than we might be a great team in 2011

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #660
                                Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                                Originally posted by gmac0322
                                If we pick up Howard than we might be a great team in 2011

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                                Howard bad back.
                                Rose bad knee.
                                Melo bad knee.

                                Could be good in the East or quickly a typical Knicks season.
                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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