Anyone get prizefighter yet?

[phillyfan23]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

You think he is bad, take a look at the 2kforums.......holy crud, there are a few guys since yesterday morning hell bent on beating this game to death about how bad it is in their opinion.

If anyone can help me with how to play better against the CPU aggressiveness, I would appreciate it. I like this game, but I am getting frustrated to the point where I am ready to give up. I can go about 4 rounds the most before I get knocked out. I do block a lot, but the damn CPU is like the Terminator and doesn't let up even on Amateur which is sad.

Should I spend the first round or two jabbing and blocking?

I loved the Rocky series and those games were tough because the CPU wasn't a slouch, but I was able to hang with the CPU.

I had the same EXACT problem when I started playing. What I found is that the cpu will be relentless if they're getting the better of the exchanges and will asolutely punish you if you're on the ropes. Last 2 matches I played as juan manuel marquez vs juan dias. ( I play on 90 sec rounds because the lack of clinching, referee interruptions make it impossible to get correct punches per round )......

First match it went 12 rounds where I got the unanimous decision winning 7 rounds to 2.....

2nd match I thought I was losing BIG in the cards( I fast forward during the in-between rounds because the trainers will tell you if u're winning or not- tkaes the suspense away) and I had to be gamble a bit in the last 3 rounds ....and I was KOed with 30 secs left in the 10th round....

turns out i was down only one round in the cards.

What I found out is that if you're successful in attacking the CPU, they WILL retreat....but if you're getting your head bashed in they will not let up in any way....pretty realistic to me.

before you even try to attack you have to master the defensive aspects of the game and block a lot of the cpu power punches....some boxers throw very little power punches some a lot...so you have to watch out for them...because if you get caught by their power punches the fight can turn in a dime and will force you to be extra passive and start losing in the cards.

When the cpu winds up for those huge shots, you gotta do the double tap backwards to avoid it or else you will keep getting hit.

hope it helps

[phillyfan23]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I've read some other peoples impressions firstofrage and they're saying the same thing as you; all judges have the same scores.

i thought the same but in the match last night that I played the 3rd judge's scorecards was different than the other 2 ...

[Money99]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

i thought the same but in the match last night that I played the 3rd judge's scorecards was different than the other 2 ...

Great! Thanks for clarifying!

[JayBee74]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I will try your pointers hoping that it helps me out. Do you feel like the CPU throws those damn specialty punches too soon? When they do, their stamina goes down, but not as much as I would have hoped. That is even after they throw their signature punch and miss.

Actually it's not a specialty punch the CPU is throwing(my bad!). The CPU is mostly bombing you with Step Around Hooks to the body and head. The easiest way to counter this blow is by throwing a regular hook (X or Y) as you see the CPU developing his Step Around Hook. By throwing Step Around Hooks yourself you keep the CPU honest and he will definitely change his strategy-pretty impressive AI. Ignore the manual's L Stick up or down instructions. To throw a Step Around Hook press the RB+X or Y. For a body Step Around Hook press RB+RT+X or Y.

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I had the same EXACT problem when I started playing. What I found is that the cpu will be relentless if they're getting the better of the exchanges and will asolutely punish you if you're on the ropes. Last 2 matches I played as juan manuel marquez vs juan dias. ( I play on 90 sec rounds because the lack of clinching, referee interruptions make it impossible to get correct punches per round )......

First match it went 12 rounds where I got the unanimous decision winning 7 rounds to 2.....

2nd match I thought I was losing BIG in the cards( I fast forward during the in-between rounds because the trainers will tell you if u're winning or not- tkaes the suspense away) and I had to be gamble a bit in the last 3 rounds ....and I was KOed with 30 secs left in the 10th round....

turns out i was down only one round in the cards.

What I found out is that if you're successful in attacking the CPU, they WILL retreat....but if you're getting your head bashed in they will not let up in any way....pretty realistic to me.

before you even try to attack you have to master the defensive aspects of the game and block a lot of the cpu power punches....some boxers throw very little power punches some a lot...so you have to watch out for them...because if you get caught by their power punches the fight can turn in a dime and will force you to be extra passive and start losing in the cards.

When the cpu winds up for those huge shots, you gotta do the double tap backwards to avoid it or else you will keep getting hit.

hope it helps

Thanks Philly, I appreciate all the help everyone has given me. I will post back later tonight if I have improved at all.

[BigTigLSU]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I bought but I havent opened it for those who spent money on this should I open it.

[fistofrage]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I bought but I havent opened it for those who spent money on this should I open it.

Well, although it has its faults, I had no problem playing it for 3 straight hours last night, and am looking forward to doing the same tonight. The AI is pretty tough. Its been a long time since the AI has beat me on a medium difficulty in any game.

I'll get 50+ hours of entertainment out of it, I'm certain. But I can also say with almost certainty that once FN round 4 comes out, this game will get little play. So if you want a boxing game to tide you over for 8 months or so til FN r4, open it. If you can wait a few months, you'll be able to get this in the bargain bin, I'm sure.

Fight Fans will give this a 7. Non fight fans who want a boxing game to pick up and go will hate this game. You decide where you are and there's you answer.

[JayBee74]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I bought but I havent opened it for those who spent money on this should I open it.

Yes, this is the most single player fun I've ever had with a sports game bar none and the only thing I've been doing is playing 5 round matches using Kelly Pavlik against Andre Berto. My record is probably 2-30 against him but I'm learning and I just beat him (medium difficulty) by KO in the third round. What is so realistic about this game is the AI and the accuracy of punches. Jab & straights are easier to land then hooks which are easier to land then uppercuts. The CPU will adjust his gameplan accordingly. Use regular hooks to counter Step Around Hooks, crosses to counter regular hooks, and jabs to score points and keep your opponent off balance. Mix in your counters with good blocking, throw some NON CHEESY Adrenaline punches if your bar is half full or more and have some fun. GET IT, but remember it's a game of strategy and skill.

[grunt]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

lol. Being a mod at the 2k forums I can certainly tell you that the developers do listen to consumer feedback and they do play a part in the outcome of future titles.

EA listening to consumers is something brand new for them. In the past EA did not listen and lied to consumers.

Wow, I am a defender of EA games. Who would thunk it.

I was using Ian Cummings as an example of a developer coming on the boards and taking feedback in real time. I give props where props are deserved.

I have been supporting 2k sports since 9/9/99. Now back to the thread topic.

The more read about this game the more I want to give it a try. If the only positive contribution PF give is stamina this is a major improvement in almost all boxing games. So, far this is a tale of 2 games. Some hate it with a passion and others are enjoying their learning curve and sim like qualities.

Peace

[JayBee74]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I'll get 50+ hours of entertainment out of it, I'm certain. But I can also say with almost certainty that once FN round 4 comes out, this game will get little play. So if you want a boxing game to tide you over for 8 months or so til FN r4, open it. If you can wait a few months, you'll be able to get this in the bargain bin, I'm sure.

Fight Fans will give this a 7. Non fight fans who want a boxing game to pick up and go will hate this game. You decide where you are and there's you answer.

Are you Nostradamus or something? I think this game blows away FN3, and what has EA done lately to make you think they CAN sim up FN4?

[aholbert32]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

Wow, I am a defender of EA games. Who would thunk it.

I was using Ian Cummings as an example of a developer coming on the boards and taking feedback in real time. I give props where props are deserved.

I'll give him credit for coming here now but lets not act like 2k, SCEA and other companies havent had a presence on this board. Ian and the EA guys didnt start to show up until a Madden fansite became part of OS and an EA employee became the majority owner of OS. I'm sure people from Prizefighters lurk on these boards and the 2k boards too.

Back to the game, I'm going to try Thelwig's tips and hopefully they work.

[fistofrage]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

Are you Nostradamus or something? I think this game blows away FN3, and what has EA done lately to make you think they CAN sim up FN4?

Acually, just refer to me as Nostrafistus. I'm big on career mode and the FNR4 producer has already mentioned that he has heard the complaints of the community about there being no rankings, haymakers, etc.

I never played FN R3 for the 360 because I briefly played it for the PS2 and was not impressed with the career mode.

Anyway, say what you will about FN Round 2, but flicking out the jab with the right stick felt alot more like boxing to me than the jab in PF. Prizefighter is a knockdown festival too. 1 out of 12 fights went to the cards last night and there were 4 knockdowns in that fight. If FN R2 had 1:30 rounds in career mode or even 2 minute rounds, punch totals would be perfect with very few knockdowns and alot of fights going the distance.

You have to admit that the movement in PF is off. Its clunky and its even worse than Victorious Boxers. The ring is too small. You can get some good angles in, but its not as smooth as it should be. PF is a good first effort, hopefully they will make another one.

I'll tell you what though, if you buy FN R4 and you don't like it at least as much as PF. I'll buy it off you for what you paid for it.

[JayBee74]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

STATS FOR MY PAVLIK- BERTO 3RD ROUND KO

PAVLIK
THROWN HIT %
TOTAL 192 107 55
JAB 25 19 76
STRAIGHT 110 70 63
L-HOOK 23 6 26
R-HOOK 24 7 29
L-UPPERCUT 1 1 100
R-UPPERCUT 9 4 44

BERTO
THROWN HIT %
TOTAL 235 113 48
JAB 125 66 52
STRAIGHT 42 20 47
L-HOOK 26 9 34
R-HOOK 28 14 50
L-UPPER 11 2 18
R-UPPER 3 2 67%

[fistofrage]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

STATS FOR MY PAVLIK- BERTO 3RD ROUND KO

PAVLIK
THROWN HIT %
TOTAL 192 107 55
JAB 25 19 76
STRAIGHT 110 70 63
L-HOOK 23 6 26
R-HOOK 24 7 29
L-UPPERCUT 1 1 100
R-UPPERCUT 9 4 44

BERTO
THROWN HIT %
TOTAL 235 113 48
JAB 125 66 52
STRAIGHT 42 20 47
L-HOOK 26 9 34
R-HOOK 28 14 50
L-UPPER 11 2 18
R-UPPER 3 2 67%

Who were you and how many minute rounds? And difficulty level?

[JayBee74]

Re: Anyone get prizefighter yet?

I'll tell you what though, if you buy FN R4 and you don't like it at least as much as PF. I'll buy it off you for what you paid for it.

DEAL!!!!!