EA Community Manager's response to the exclusion of button punching...

[phillyfan23]

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I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. All you do is push the stick up in a left diagonal motion for a jab and a right diagonal motion for a cross. There's no pulling of the stick involved.

that's what i meant by pulling it back for the jab. the TPC is just like buttons but less accurate....

when we jab in real life, there's no movement in the opposite direction. That's what I'm getting at. People say the TPC mimics real life punch movement. It doesn't.

[DaveDQ]

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that's what i meant by pulling it back for the jab. the TPC is just like buttons but less accurate....

when we jab in real life, there's no movement in the opposite direction. That's what I'm getting at. People say the TPC mimics real life punch movement. It doesn't.

Philly, I'm not trying to call you out or present you as misinformed, but the jab and cross are used by two different hands, that's why you have two directions. And, simply make a hook or uppercut movement and you'll see the similarities in you and the TPC.

Also, in viewing the videos on EASW, you'll see some gus are throwing flurries with precision and accuracy.

[phillyfan23]

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Philly, I'm not trying to call you out or present you as misinformed, but the jab and cross are used by two different hands, that's why you have two directions. And, simply make a hook or uppercut movement and you'll see the similarities in you and the TPC.

Also, in viewing the videos on EASW, you'll see some gus are throwing flurries with precision and accuracy.

yes i understand it represents 2 different hands, but it still doesn't mimic real punching IMO. it's an impossibility really using a controller.

as far as punching accuracy and flurries....I can do that too, but how do you know the guy didn't mean to throw a left hook to the body, but instead a left body uppercut came? The combination sequence still looks fluid but there is some inaccuracy. TPC will never be as accurate as buttons. that's just the bottom line.

taking away options is bad, EA really need to get that through their heads. add buttons, add a separate lobby for buttons only and everyone is happy. Really isn't rocket science.

[South318]

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I like it better using the sticks over the buttons, it makes it more competitive. It's easy to just sit there an tap buttons. It would become a game of who can tap random buttons the fastest. I think button mashing takes away from the realistic gameplay.

[nickelplaydit]

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I like it better using the sticks over the buttons, it makes it more competitive. It's easy to just sit there an tap buttons. It would become a game of who can tap random buttons the fastest. I think button mashing takes away from the realistic gameplay.

Ditto my man...ditto!

there is just too much complaining on this matter rather than just giving the analog a chance...if it bothers that much then just dont get it....

when i use to play FN3 i use to say that the tpc was overated simply because of the button guys who would get their punches off quicker..so every fight i had to start the fight from outside, go in for a few combos, then come back out b4 the button masher would start going A, B, A, B,......which were basically just hooks

the problem with that is you're now not boxing anymore, you're in a button tapping war...and you're still on the sticks

i pick realism over arcade anyday..and if that means that u have to learn somn new then atleast give it a chance....if its not for you then ...time to move on

after playing the demo i see that the punches are more fliud ...and the sticks are very responsive...i just wish everyone can feel the same... its for the better

[videobastard]

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I dont see why the EA developers did not just include both from the get go. They could of made TPC lobbies and Button lobbies or something.

It would not even have been as bad if it was a mix of both. Like maybe use RB and LB for hooks and use the stick to jab, throw straights etc..But the TPC alone is not responsive enough to have all the punches on it.

It turns the game into GPC guess punch control or MPC maybe punch control because what you are intending to do does not correspond in what action takes place.

God forbid you want to try combinations of hooks, and uppercuts you might end up pulling a muscle in your wrist... all jokes aside back to my first posts they could just easily have a lobby system for TPC and Button users.

Also not everyone using buttons button mash. There are people like myself who like to mimic real life boxing that use the buttons. All EA needs to do is have a better stamina system so the more you keep punching the more you wear down. Then the button mashers would have to think do i want my boxer to keep getting tired so quickly and be more subject to being knocked down.

[WeLLWeLL]

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If everyone would have just learned to use the sticks in Fight Night Round 3 there would be no problem with TPC. Think about it, the sticks were the default control scheme for Round 3. Now the sticks have taken over Round 4. How can this be a surprise to some people? You were supposed to learn the sticks in Round 3.

[kbmnm247]

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add me to the elated there are no buttons crew

I love the fact that all players will now have to play how the game was originally made in version 1.... Fight Night was never created for buttons, people just used them because they were easier to win with and took no skill through the first three versions. I am very happy that it is all sticks now.


And as for the jab pull back, add me to the list that has no idea what you are talking about phillyfan. You do not pull back on a jab, you push quickly up on the stick with the jab hand, just as you would do in real life. It perfectly mimics reality. You might not be misinformed but you have no idea what you are talking about.

[WeLLWeLL]

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add me to the elated there are no buttons crew

I love the fact that all players will now have to play how the game was originally made in version 1.... Fight Night was never created for buttons, people just used them because they were easier to win with and took no skill through the first three versions. I am very happy that it is all sticks now.


And as for the jab pull back, add me to the list that has no idea what you are talking about phillyfan. You do not pull back on a jab, you push quickly up on the stick with the jab hand, just as you would do in real life. It perfectly mimics reality. You might not be misinformed but you have no idea what you are talking about.

Agreed.

[shigogouhou]

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If everyone would have just learned to use the sticks in Fight Night Round 3 there would be no problem with TPC. Think about it, the sticks were the default control scheme for Round 3. Now the sticks have taken over Round 4. How can this be a surprise to some people? You were supposed to learn the sticks in Round 3.

I hope they get rid of the sticks for round 5, so you can see what it's like to have the way you want to play ripped away from you based on arbitrary "supposed to" logic. If you had learned to use the buttons in 1-3 there will be no problem with R5.

[WeLLWeLL]

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Even if they switched to buttons for 5 (which would not seem likely) it would still not be a potential "deal-breaker" for me like it is for some others. I'm sorry you can no longer box the way you previously did, however the game is due soon and you have plenty of time to get used to the controls with the demo.

[nickelplaydit]

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I dont see why the EA developers did not just include both from the get go. They could of made TPC lobbies and Button lobbies or something.

It would not even have been as bad if it was a mix of both. Like maybe use RB and LB for hooks and use the stick to jab, throw straights etc..But the TPC alone is not responsive enough to have all the punches on it.

It turns the game into GPC guess punch control or MPC maybe punch control because what you are intending to do does not correspond in what action takes place.

God forbid you want to try combinations of hooks, and uppercuts you might end up pulling a muscle in your wrist... all jokes aside back to my first posts they could just easily have a lobby system for TPC and Button users.

Also not everyone using buttons button mash. There are people like myself who like to mimic real life boxing that use the buttons. All EA needs to do is have a better stamina system so the more you keep punching the more you wear down. Then the button mashers would have to think do i want my boxer to keep getting tired so quickly and be more subject to being knocked down.

i understand you're point but at the end of the day its still quicker than the analog sticks..they tried to give you more fluidity with the punches... all it takes is time...

it almost the same if you were to use the buttons and you make a mistake and press y instead of the a button...that happens...but you'll adjust eventually.

maybe they will make a room for folk who like the buttons....but i hope it wont be a ranked rm

[noles_fan21]

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TPC IS NOT RESPONSIVE IF UR GONNA LEAVE OUT BUTTONS MAKE TPC SMOOTH AND RESPONSIVE I DONT MIND IT BUT LET IT BE RESPONSIVE. AS SOON AS I PULL TO USE A UPPERCUT IT PUNCHES LOW JAB IT GOES HOOK U CANT PULL OFF WHAT U WANT AS IN THE COMBOS U WANNA THROW I GUESS I GOTTA PLAY MORE BUT ITS A (OFFLINE LEGACY MODE/PLAYIN OFFLINE WITH FRIENDS GAME KILLER) COME EA Y LEAVE IT OUT (OFFLINE) THATS CRAZY! EVERY THING ELSE BOUT FNR4 IS GREAT. PLEASE BRING IT BACK FOR THE LEGACY MODE FREAKS PLEASE EA

[noles_fan21]

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add me to the elated there are no buttons crew

I love the fact that all players will now have to play how the game was originally made in version 1.... Fight Night was never created for buttons, people just used them because they were easier to win with and took no skill through the first three versions. I am very happy that it is all sticks now.


And as for the jab pull back, add me to the list that has no idea what you are talking about phillyfan. You do not pull back on a jab, you push quickly up on the stick with the jab hand, just as you would do in real life. It perfectly mimics reality. You might not be misinformed but you have no idea what you are talking about.

WHAT U BE FINE IF EA SCRAPED TPC FOR FNR4 N SAID BUTTONS ONLY AND DIDN'T GIVE U (TPC GUYS) A OPTION TO SWITCH TO TPC HOW WOULD U TAKE IT THATS ALL IM SAYIN GIVE US A OPTION OR FOR ONLINE ONLY USE TPC SIMPLE EA

[CallMeDrop]

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You see that link has been removed. It's a safe bet that EA will add the buttons back. They can make the TPC the default in the online mode but for offline play we need options.