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  • mattlanta
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 2384

    #1

    Frustrating... Counter Punches

    This game is so frustrating. They put too much importance in counter punching. Not everyone has to be a counter puncher. For example, Mike Tyson. I was beating the **** out of a guy throwing 8-punch combos at someone and their health bar was only halfway done. If you get hit by an 8-punch combo by Tyson (they were hooks and uppercuts), you should at least be dazed. But then when I was beating the **** out of that dude he counter punched with a jab and flash KO'd me. Happens too often I think. Is anyone else frustrated at this part of the game? It's fun, don't get me wrong, it's just that not everyone has to be counter punchers to knock people out...
  • Kalon
    Pro
    • Apr 2003
    • 536

    #2
    Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

    dude everyone counterpunches...not all at the same degree but every boxer does and knows how to do it. otherwise you wouldn't see KD/KOs..
    www.myspace.com/itcp

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    • SA1NT401
      Banned
      • Sep 2007
      • 3498

      #3
      Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

      decreasing the Offensive Awareness slider is your salvation my friend. I personally dont have that big an issue with it. There is alot more customization in this years game to tailor it to your liking.

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      • sportyguyfl31
        MVP
        • Nov 2005
        • 4745

        #4
        Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

        "Protect yourself at all times"


        Boxers get knocked when they get careless flurrying quite often.

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        • Kalon
          Pro
          • Apr 2003
          • 536

          #5
          Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

          Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
          "Protect yourself at all times"


          Boxers get knocked when they get careless flurrying quite often.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7iXziqTvjA
          i love counterpunching...i love using my jab, CP'ing, then going to the body in the later rounds...
          www.myspace.com/itcp

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          • Hawaii_Stars
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 4308

            #6
            Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

            I don't really have any problems with it. Counter punching is where I look to put it on the guy after I daze him.

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            • mr_president
              MVP
              • Oct 2002
              • 1167

              #7
              Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

              Originally posted by Kalon
              dude everyone counterpunches...not all at the same degree but every boxer does and knows how to do it. otherwise you wouldn't see KD/KOs..
              this is not true.

              you do not need to counter punch in order to score a knockdown or knock out.

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              • phillyfan23
                MVP
                • Feb 2005
                • 2319

                #8
                Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                Originally posted by mr_president
                this is not true.

                you do not need to counter punch in order to score a knockdown or knock out.
                agreed.

                they need to add more power to the perfectly well-executed regular punches. The only way you can stun or flash KD/KO the cpu is three things:

                1)counter shot
                2)haymaker
                3) special move

                there needs to be more reward for landing a perfect regular punch whether it be uppercut,hook or straight.

                If EA patches this issue as well as giving us a stamina slider....PERFECTION!!

                this game is really close.

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                • steez3
                  Pro
                  • May 2007
                  • 614

                  #9
                  Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                  maybe a stupid question but how do you parry a punch? Im blocking high and the cpu throws a hook and I block it but thats it...they do it to me all the time.....is there something else I need to do to do this beside just block?

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                  • Jukeman
                    Showtime
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10955

                    #10
                    Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                    You have to time the block as he hit you

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                    • Kalon
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 536

                      #11
                      Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                      Originally posted by mr_president
                      this is not true.

                      you do not need to counter punch in order to score a knockdown or knock out.
                      Originally posted by phillyfan23
                      agreed.

                      they need to add more power to the perfectly well-executed regular punches. The only way you can stun or flash KD/KO the cpu is three things:

                      1)counter shot
                      2)haymaker
                      3) special move

                      there needs to be more reward for landing a perfect regular punch whether it be uppercut,hook or straight.

                      If EA patches this issue as well as giving us a stamina slider....PERFECTION!!

                      this game is really close.

                      question...i dont know much about boxing at all. but in both IRL and FNR4 fights...don't counters cause more damage because they are clean hits? and yes there needs to be a stamina slider. and i think there should be more reward for landing that perfect punch too.
                      www.myspace.com/itcp

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                      • Holt82
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 43

                        #12
                        Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                        Maybe some should step in the boxing ring before going on about the sport. I box and just because someone is throwing an 8 punch combo means nothing if the person knows how to block properly. Sure it'll hurt your arms but that's the point.

                        I've thrown crosses and knocked people out. And chances are you are not going to knock out a boxer with a jab, sorry.

                        I haven't paid attention much to the power of the crosses in the game but I'll take a look but to me the jabs are fine and so are the uppercuts and hooks.

                        You always use the jab to set up your other punches, if you are just throwing hooks and uppercuts, you will probably kiss the mat in no time.

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                        • toomerk
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 81

                          #13
                          Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                          Originally posted by phillyfan23
                          agreed.

                          they need to add more power to the perfectly well-executed regular punches. The only way you can stun or flash KD/KO the cpu is three things:

                          1)counter shot
                          2)haymaker
                          3) special move

                          there needs to be more reward for landing a perfect regular punch whether it be uppercut,hook or straight.

                          If EA patches this issue as well as giving us a stamina slider....PERFECTION!!

                          this game is really close.
                          I understand your frustration, but I don't agree. Most boxers get flash KO'd or stunned when they don't see the punch coming. In this case, that would mean it was a counterpunch, but not necessarily one the game considers a true "counter". For example, I have a flash KD that wasn't a "game" counter. I just caught the CPU when he swung and missed, but there was no delay or pause. As he was throwing a cross, I threw an uppercut and knocked him down.

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                          • toomerk
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 81

                            #14
                            Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                            Originally posted by Holt82
                            Maybe some should step in the boxing ring before going on about the sport. I box and just because someone is throwing an 8 punch combo means nothing if the person knows how to block properly. Sure it'll hurt your arms but that's the point.

                            I've thrown crosses and knocked people out. And chances are you are not going to knock out a boxer with a jab, sorry.

                            I haven't paid attention much to the power of the crosses in the game but I'll take a look but to me the jabs are fine and so are the uppercuts and hooks.

                            You always use the jab to set up your other punches, if you are just throwing hooks and uppercuts, you will probably kiss the mat in no time.
                            I think the game reflects this perfectly. If you set up your punches properly, and put together "smart" combinations, you will be successful. If you go in there arms flailing (and not landing), it doesn't matter how many 8 punch combo's you throw. They won't be successful

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                            • Complex
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2494

                              #15
                              Re: Frustrating... Counter Punches

                              Originally posted by Libid21
                              This game is so frustrating. They put too much importance in counter punching. Not everyone has to be a counter puncher. For example, Mike Tyson. I was beating the **** out of a guy throwing 8-punch combos at someone and their health bar was only halfway done. If you get hit by an 8-punch combo by Tyson (they were hooks and uppercuts), you should at least be dazed. But then when I was beating the **** out of that dude he counter punched with a jab and flash KO'd me. Happens too often I think. Is anyone else frustrated at this part of the game? It's fun, don't get me wrong, it's just that not everyone has to be counter punchers to knock people out...
                              This is false
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