STAMINA issue to be FIXED this SOON

[StonesRunIt]

Re: STAMINA issue to be FIXED this SOON

im not seeing any probs with stamina head to head on the same console. its actually pretty perfect. make sure and not use created boxers unless you balanced their stamina. the boxers that come on the game have pretty low stamina but most create a boxers have very high stamina. i thought this was a online issue only as i see no probs offline. also use your sliders! you can make it were your knocking guys out faster and easier which makes guys play more realistic.

No, that'll make a casual player swing for the fences more often.

[Jukeman]

Re: STAMINA issue to be FIXED this SOON

I must be in the minority in thinkingingthat Stamina isnt that much of a problem.


I usually just wait out the barrage and it pays off.

With that said, when I find I'm in a game with a robo puncher now, I just let him knock me out.

I dont want to be bothered with it anymore.

It's a simple formula to beat them, and I just get tired of repeating it.

im in the same boat as you but I do think the stamina need to drain more when punching, right now its like a system that let you throw alot of punches now then face the risk later on in the fight...If im throwing 100 punches per round, my stamina should be half full during that round instead of round 6...

The system is fine it just needs tweaking....they should just do what mass effect did when you shooting your guns(over heat) if im throwing punches none stop, my stamina should deplete but as I stop it should recover back to normal, now thru out the fight as my body gets bruise and while im getting fatigue, the stamina recovery bar should get lower meaning I will "over heat" faster

[parker002]

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im in the same boat as you but I do think the stamina need to drain more when punching, right now its like a system that let you throw alot of punches now then face the risk later on in the fight...If im throwing 100 punches per round, my stamina should be half full during that round instead of round 6...

The system is fine it just needs tweaking....they should just do what mass effect did when you shooting your guns(over heat) if im throwing punches none stop, my stamina should deplete but as I stop it should recover back to normal, now thru out the fight as my body gets bruise and while im getting fatigue, the stamina recovery bar should get lower meaning I will "over heat" faster

The big problem as it seems to me from reading all this, isn't stamina. It's punching and power.

Stamina seems to deplete normally over time, like you said. If you throw too many punches early, you won't have any gas left late.

The problem is that PvP matches don't seem to last long enough for stamina drain to show up.

[Jukeman]

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The big problem as it seems to me from reading all this, isn't stamina. It's punching and power.

Stamina seems to deplete normally over time, like you said. If you throw too many punches early, you won't have any gas left late.

The problem is that PvP matches don't seem to last long enough for stamina drain to show up.

agree but its still comess down to stamina when you talk about the power of punches

from the booklet....

Stamina- A gauge of how fatigue you are. Stamina affects how hard you hit, how fast you move and quickly you recover.

If they made it deplete faster all of are problems would be fixed

[cjallure24]

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Something has to be done wit the amount of punches and stamina. This dude threw 207 punches one round and was not drained or slowed down not once. Mind you he was taking punches as well. We went 10 rounds and he through 1266 punches with a Heavyweight......

I said to myself " oh this is easy,he will be drained by the 4th round"....No sir, I couldn't be more wrong.

[StonesRunIt]

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yea, the stamina is not fine at all. There needs to be a limit on consecutive hooks and uppercuts with a sever stamina drop after that limit has been reached.

Also every time you swing and go down to 20-0% stamina you should take a big hit to your overall stamina. You cant drain yourself then expect to come back at 100% or even 80%.

[parker002]

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agree but its still comess down to stamina when you talk about the power of punches

from the booklet....

Stamina- A gauge of how fatigue you are. Stamina affects how hard you hit, how fast you move and quickly you recover.

If they made it deplete faster all of are problems would be fixed

As long as they speed up recovery as well. If they just make it deplete faster, no fights will go beyond the 4th or 5th round.

[grunt]

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How can team FN ship the game with a stamina issue? Stamina is the most important factor in a boxing game. When Foreman can throw 187 punches in the 6 round and avg over 100 punches a round and still keep more than 60& of his stamina...wow.

As ugly as prize fighter was they got stamina better than any boxing game ever.

[DaveDQ]

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Something that needs to be addressed is what this patch will do. Is it a patch or is it the DLC offering the slider? If it's just DLC, online will remain the same.

[acts238shaun]

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I just fought online versus a light heavy and I couldn't stay out of his 71" reach because his faster footspeed would just allow him to track me down. However, when I connected on a big shot he shook it off like a super heavy. My guys is a 6'5" guy with a very long reach and a straight for his best punch. The guys would take my counter straight and keep coming to the tune of bunches of hooks (see my sig). He was the first one who just spent the entire fight following around the ring throwing body hooks. Just when I thought I had the body/haymaker spammer issue resolved I run into this cheddar. before this guy I won eight of my last ten, mowing down several Tyson body spammers.

By the way, my usual strategy against spammers is to jab away and circle, staying out of their range and picking off punches and countering, which usually leaves them walking into my straight. I have flash KO'd a couple of guys like that.

[parker002]

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How can team FN ship the game with a stamina issue? Stamina is the most important factor in a boxing game. When Foreman can throw 187 punches in the 6 round and avg over 100 punches a round and still keep more than 60& of his stamina...wow.

As ugly as prize fighter was they got stamina better than any boxing game ever.

How can somebody win game after game on the hardest difficulty level on Madden by throwing nothing but fly patterns? Why can Albert Pujols hit over 100 homers in a single season?

People need to understand that EA caters to the majority and the majority don't want "sim" boxing, they want to beat the **** out of each other with hundreds of punches.

[grunt]

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How can somebody win game after game on the hardest difficulty level on Madden by throwing nothing but fly patterns? Why can Albert Pujols hit over 100 homers in a single season?

People need to understand that EA caters to the majority and the majority don't want "sim" boxing, they want to beat the **** out of each other with hundreds of punches.

Then just create a sim and arcade mode. This is just lazy game design.

Can you imagine a FPS with unlimited ammo and the inability to take cover? Gamers both sim and casual would take into account a more realistic stamina model. No excuse for team FN.

[acts238shaun]

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Yeah, the stamina and blocking need work, because I know there are a lot of punches I block that are called a hit. I played a guy online today who was 15-1 and threw over 1000 punches, 180 of which were haymakers. The guy (Th3 Omega) was a haymaker and body spammer, and on top of that he was one of the vacuum fighters who try to get you stuck in one spot and wail on you with haymakers, etc. In the tenth round I was circling away from him and he tied my feet up, landing a lucky haymaker uppercut and putting me down for the first time all fight. He won the decision because of that knockdown, 95-93. I landed 65% of my 565 punches. He landed 48% of his 1000+ punches.

After the fight he sent me a message, saying "you need to quit running like a b****." I messaged him back and told him to quit cheesing like one, that as long as blocking doesn't work I am not going to stand there and block haymakers all day. Of course I got the last word in, because I blocked him after that. This crap needs to be fixed and soon.

[parker002]

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Then just create a sim and arcade mode. This is just lazy game design.

Can you imagine a FPS with unlimited ammo and the inability to take cover? Gamers both sim and casual would take into account a more realistic stamina model. No excuse for team FN.

It's the 80/20 rule and it rules corporate America. EA isn't going to spend 80% of their time creating a true "sim" experience when only 20% of their potential customers want it.

It's not LAZY game design, it's PROFITABLE game design. And without profit, there's no game design at all.

[Chairman7w]

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It's the 80/20 rule and it rules corporate America. EA isn't going to spend 80% of their time creating a true "sim" experience when only 20% of their potential customers want it.

It's not LAZY game design, it's PROFITABLE game design. And without profit, there's no game design at all.

There it is. Well said.

Frankly, in any online game, 80% will be cheesers looking to get over. It's not endemic to boxing. If you want good sim action, play people you know.