My Legacy Mode wishlist...

[parker002]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

But then how do you explain games like the Sims or Facebook Farmville?

ROFL

My wife plays Farmville/Cafe World/Pet Society/etc. like EVERY day.

It looks HORRIBLY boring, but she's as addicted as I am to my 360.

I agree with you, I think Brizzo is underestimating us a bit on the diet/nutrition thing.

[parker002]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

I agree Poetic. Things like chin or heart should be a constant.

Although, there are times where certain fighters found themselves being floored a lot more after a tough fight or loss. Guys like Fernando Vargas and Sugar Ray Leonard come to mind.
They went many fights without ever touching the canvas and then after a particularly tough fight they couldn't stop being floored.
But that might be tough to program so it'd be best to keep iron chinned guys always tough to knock down.

That's easy. They ALREADY have that in the game with the cut and swelling ratings. The more you get hit, the more you swell. The more you swell over time, the SOONER you swell in future fights.

The game already keeps track of punches landed. Just start decrementing a guys chin rating (or whatever rating is might be) when certain punches land, or certain numbers of punches land. Make a guy injury prone, or lower his chin rating to simulate him suffering the long-term effects of being knocked out.

[SHAKYR]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

Dude, I'm glad for you. You do something alot of us don't get to do. But frankly, you sound like the developers. You don't sound like a consumer. Brizzo and company have taken a step that most developers nowadays don't - they've extended an invitation to the community to express their ideas and they're actually LISTENING. I would suggest you take a page out of their book, because right now you're acting pretty high and mighty and that's not fair.

As for the wishlist itself - the timeline is not practical at all, it's NECESSARY. There's a big difference. The producers are in the planning stages and want suggestions because that's the cold, hard fact about development cycles. Fight Night Round 4 is done - sure they've probably got a couple of guys working on DLC, but that's not where they make their money. They make their money by releasing a new game, so OF COURSE they're already in the planning stages.

If you think expecting a multitude of PLAYERS to start thinking about the NEXT game 90 days after the release of the current game is practical, you're not thinking it through. Just looking at this forum is evidence of that - there's guys here that have been playing online since release date and JUST NOW started playing Legacy mode. They're not equipped to offer suggestions about how to improve that portion of the game. By the same token, I don't play online, so I'm not capable of submitting ideas there.

And like I said, some of the things I've suggested don't become apparent until you've played through Legacy multiple times. That takes REAL WORLD time. Once you tweak sliders, play online, and then FINALLY get into Legacy mode, sending a wishlist 90 days after release is absolutely too soon.

By releasing the wishlist that early, you've alienated a portion of offline players. Of course, I don't really find that surprising. Pretty much every improvement to the game they've made so far affect online mode only. And given the emphasis on OWC, it seems that's the direction they want to move the game anyway. I don't blame them - it seems like 80% or more of the people here are playing this game online more than offline, and about 50% play online almost exclusively.

Did you even read the wishlist? We had people who help cover nearly every aspect of the game on the wishlist. I'm not a huge online player, so we had people who were. Many of the guys had many hours and days worth of playing time in on this game. We even gathered ideas from various sites all over the internet.

I'm not acting like one of the developers because I already knew what was going to be the biggest complaints. I'm one of Fight Night's biggest critics.

http://www.operationsports.com/SHAKY...oducers-hands/
TABLE OF CONTENT

TABLE OF CONTENT 2
1 OVERVIEW 4
2 TOP WISHES (Priority) 4
3 GAMEPLAY 4
3.1 Add flurries 6
3.2 Evasive Roll 6
3.3 Shoulder Roll 6
3.4 The one-two Combination 6
3.5 Feinting, Taunting, Taking a knee & switching stances 7
3.6 Punching from the guard 7
3.7 Leaping/lunging punch 7
3.8 Second gear speed 7
3.9 Slipping while moving 7
3.10 Moving while you’re punching 8
3.11 Throwing punches with varying power 8
3.12 Punch retraction animation seed: 9
3.13 Arm Muscle fatigue/Lactic Acid build up: 9
4 FIGHT NOW 9
5 CAREER (LEGACY) 10
5.1 Era-specific career modes: 11
5.2 Amateur things 12
5.3 Promoters 12
5.4 Sparring Partners 13
5.5 Superstars have demands 14
5.6 Real Life Counterparts 15
5.7 Trainers 15
5.8 Money Spender 16
5.9 Message Center 16
5.10 Arrange Fights 16
5.11 End of Year Awards 17
6 GRAPHICS AND PRESENTATION 17
7 REALISM AND ACCURACY 20
8 BUGS/THINGS TO FIX 20
9 SETTINGS/SETTING SLIDERS 20
10 GAMEPLAY SLIDERS 21
11 CAB MODE(Create A Boxer) 21
12 CAB SLIDERS 22
13 RATINGS 22
14 TENDENCIES 23
15 ONLINE MODE 25
16 MISCELLANEOUS 26
16.1.1 Custom Configurations 26
16.2 New modes 27
16.2.1 Create a Title 27
16.2.2 28
16.2.3 Tournament Mode 29
16.2.4 Round Robin Mode 29
16.2.5 Match Maker Mode 30
16.2.6 Record Mode 33
16.2.7 Training Modes 33
17 REFERENCES 34
17.1 Trunks (excel) 34
17.2 How to create a boxer(excel) 34
17.3 Stadiums (excel) 34
17.4 Amateur stuff (excel) 34
17.5 Java tendency slider App example (java app) 34

[Chef Matt]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

Personally, I'd love to see the ability to start your own gym with 3 or 4 random fighters to manage. And as you build more champions or contenders, you'll have better fighters (Olympic medalists, top prospects) knock on your door to take them on.

Let me ask this one question. Has anyone ever played the gallop racer series? They do the same sort of thing. Train, raise, etc. Multiple horses, mutliple classes.

This idea is fantastic and could really work with boxing. Even on a smaller scale. Of course breeding champs in boxing would be outta the question.

[parker002]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

Did you even read the wishlist? We had people who help cover nearly every aspect of the game on the wishlist. I'm not a huge online player, so we had people who were. Many of the guys had many hours and days worth of playing time in on this game. We even gathered ideas from various sites all over the internet.

I'm not acting like one of the developers because I already knew what was going to be the biggest complaints. I'm one of Fight Night's biggest critics.

I read the wishlist after it was released. I didn't contribute because I WAS BUSY PLAYING THE GAME. How hard is that to understand?

Right now you're not acting like the developers, you're acting like a self-important jerk.

[SHAKYR]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

I read the wishlist after it was released. I didn't contribute because I WAS BUSY PLAYING THE GAME. How hard is that to understand?

Right now you're not acting like the developers, you're acting like a self-important jerk.

I'm sorry you feel that way about me. I just try to let the producer know what the fans want. I don't get paid. I just have a deep passion for boxing that's all.

[Money99]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

Let me ask this one question. Has anyone ever played the gallop racer series? They do the same sort of thing. Train, raise, etc. Multiple horses, mutliple classes.

This idea is fantastic and could really work with boxing. Even on a smaller scale. Of course breeding champs in boxing would be outta the question.

LOL. But it would explain Laila Ali.

But I remember that game. I never played it but I read about it and thought it was cool.
FN Rd5 can definitely have more out-of-ring intangibles. Otherwise, it's basically like every other boxing game outside the ring.

[parker002]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

I'm sorry you feel that way about me. I just try to let the producer know what the fans want. I don't get paid. I just have a deep passion for boxing that's all.

It's all good man, I really do understand your side of it. I just hope now that you can see where I'm coming from, too.

And hopefully, we can get some cool things into FNR5 Legacy Mode!

[ausar72]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

Ive been asking for the death of the +point generator for a while. How do you implement you ask? Just do it. The hard part is how do you do it without it being a cheese fest online, or making one style greater than another.

Yes, there has to be a trade-off...

Remember when All-Pro Football 2K8 came out? They had a way of balancing the teams where you could only have a couple of gold-star players, etc.. on down, so that certain teams had strengths in some areas and deficiencies in others. Maybe you can do this with a set of attributes in FNR5. Theres always going to be trade-offs in skill-sets, but you need to choose the best that fits your style and hope your opponent doesn't discover your weaknesses.

Just a thought.

[SHAKYR]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

I posted some of Parker's and ausar72 ideas on the EA Fight Night Wishlist forums. Please go there because the producers are still looking over that site.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/337232.page

[parker002]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

Yes, there has to be a trade-off...

Remember when All-Pro Football 2K8 came out? They had a way of balancing the teams where you could only have a couple of gold-star players, etc.. on down, so that certain teams had strengths in some areas and deficiencies in others. Maybe you can do this with a set of attributes in FNR5. Theres always going to be trade-offs in skill-sets, but you need to choose the best that fits your style and hope your opponent doesn't discover your weaknesses.

Just a thought.

A cool thought, actually.

[parker002]

Re: My Legacy Mode wishlist...

I posted some of Parker's and ausar72 ideas on the EA Fight Night Wishlist forums. Please go there because the producers are still looking over that site.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/337232.page

Thanks dude. I posted a couple of replies on that thread...