Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

[Money99]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

It's called having sustaining wealth for your children and generations too come. So that your children have opportunities and have a leg up when they become adults. This is the legacy that sustains you, people change their opinions all the time. Revisionist history is always kind to people as oppose to those who were living in those times.

I don't know if you have children or not and I see you equate wealth to material things and how many toys you can acquire and those are nice things. But, if you have children and family members to take care of you will understand the those decisions made on the all mighty dollar.

Yeah, because Floyd cared so much about his future generations that he blew it all away and owed millions in back-taxes.
And I think it's hilarious you're pointing a finger at me for attributing wealth to trinkets and toys?
So I assume you didn't watch the latest 24/7 episode where Floyd laughs at Mosley's 'trailer park home' before bragging about his awesome watches and making millions while betting on sports?

And how many millions does it need to setup your family?
1,000,000 in a 401K or mutual fund over 21 years would equate to a ridiculous amount.
How many kids does he have? In this fight alone, he could use half his purse and his great-grandkids would be set for life.

But I'm glad to see you agree with my points. Floyd ducks fighters for more cash. At least we can agree on that.
I'm also glad to see you have no problem with champions not fighting the best so they can blow more cash by betting on Laker games.

For someone who claims they're impartial and has no emotional interest invested, you sure do love defending everything Floyd.

[Money99]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

I'll play devils advocate here. He never ducked Paul. Paul wasnt a named fighter on Floyd's level when he was at welterweight. It would have been reckless for Floyd to fight Paul when he had no name recognition, no drawing power and would be a ridiculously difficult fight.

I don't buy that. Floyd is constantly telling anyone who listens that HE'S the big draw. That he could fight a cardboard box and he'd get 1M PPV buys.
So from his own admission he doesn't need any 'big names' to sell fights.
That alone means he should, or should, have fought Williams by now.

And lets face it, there are only a handful of names around welterweight that can be classified as 'household names' with drawing power.
After his fight with Mosley, there's nobody but Pacquio left. So if he picks anyone other than Pacman, he has run out of excuses for avoiding Williams.
If he fights Yuri Foreman, who's as obscure to casual-fans as Williams, many naysayers have a legit and very rock solid argument that he's ducking dangerous fighters in his own weight class.

I'll agree that I don't like Floyd. I loathe cocky athletes. Especially ones that run their mouth and don't back it up.
I also hate paycheck jocks. Floyds king of that.
I play a variety of sports and I pay to do it. Even boxing where I'm paying someone to punch me in the face. I do it because I love sports.
It rankles me when I hear pro athletes crap all over the sport that made them rich and famous.
By Floyd avoiding the best in his division he's hurting the sport and it's fans. It's fighters like him that have so many people flocking to the UFC where the best are constantly fighting the best.

[backbreaker]

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Yeah, because Floyd cared so much about his future generations that he blew it all away and owed millions in back-taxes.
And I think it's hilarious you're pointing a finger at me for attributing wealth to trinkets and toys?
So I assume you didn't watch the latest 24/7 episode where Floyd laughs at Mosley's 'trailer park home' before bragging about his awesome watches and making millions while betting on sports?

And how many millions does it need to setup your family?
1,000,000 in a 401K or mutual fund over 21 years would equate to a ridiculous amount.
How many kids does he have? In this fight alone, he could use half his purse and his great-grandkids would be set for life.

But I'm glad to see you agree with my points. Floyd ducks fighters for more cash. At least we can agree on that.
I'm also glad to see you have no problem with champions not fighting the best so they can blow more cash by betting on Laker games.

For someone who claims they're impartial and has no emotional interest invested, you sure do love defending everything Floyd.

Duck, Duck, Goose!!! You were the one who brought up the material things, I didn't. My problem with the term "duck" the way you guys use it, You guys try to equate it with "Scared". And, I think that's laughable period. He chose not to fight guys who he couldn't make a statifactory pay day in his eyes. I have no problem with this whatsoever. You keep bringing up these so-called A list fighters who were exposed by lesser fighters than Mayweather.

The fighers you love will also choose the higher pay day as well. So just stop it man. If Paul Williams could get 10 million fighting Roy Jones Jr. or 3 Million to fight B Hop guess which fight he will chose? The same for Pac, Yuri ect.. So you hate them too. You need to separate the pre fight hype too sell tickets, from the fighter. If you are this big fight fan as you claim to be, then this ish should be just a re run too you.

[aholbert32]

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I don't buy that. Floyd is constantly telling anyone who listens that HE'S the big draw. That he could fight a cardboard box and he'd get 1M PPV buys.
So from his own admission he doesn't need any 'big names' to sell fights.
That alone means he should, or should, have fought Williams by now.

And lets face it, there are only a handful of names around welterweight that can be classified as 'household names' with drawing power.
After his fight with Mosley, there's nobody but Pacquio left. So if he picks anyone other than Pacman, he has run out of excuses for avoiding Williams.
If he fights Yuri Foreman, who's as obscure to casual-fans as Williams, many naysayers have a legit and very rock solid argument that he's ducking dangerous fighters in his own weight class.

I'll agree that I don't like Floyd. I loathe cocky athletes. Especially ones that run their mouth and don't back it up.
I also hate paycheck jocks. Floyds king of that.
I play a variety of sports and I pay to do it. Even boxing where I'm paying someone to punch me in the face. I do it because I love sports.
It rankles me when I hear pro athletes crap all over the sport that made them rich and famous.
By Floyd avoiding the best in his division he's hurting the sport and it's fans. It's fighters like him that have so many people flocking to the UFC where the best are constantly fighting the best.

You are totally ignoring the timeline. Paul Williams wasnt even a top contender until he beat Margarito in July of 2007. He didnt deserve a shot at the best welterweight in boxing at the time. Floyd at the time was making big money fights against Oscar and Hatton. No one at the time was arguing that Williams deserved a shot at Floyd in 2007.

Then Williams LOST to Carlos Quintana which proved even more that he wasnt deserving of a shot at Floyd at that time. Floyd was alos retired for all of 2008 so he couldnt have fought Paul. By the time he came back to boxing, Paul was a middleweight so they couldnt fight. Floyd didnt duck Paul Williams

[pk500]

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Floyd hasn't ducked anyone, people latch onto themes and run with it. I mean really the fighters you listed are not and were not world class fighters except for Paul Williams, all were exposed by lesser fighters than Floyd.

Again for the right price he would have fought and destroyed all of those fighters you listed except for Paul Williams. Slow plodding along head first fighters get destroyed by Floyd time and time again.

Your hate blinds your reasoning, you use a term of ducking as if he's scared which is ludicris. I'm literally laughing at your list big bad Cotto oooh, Cassamayor oooh, really? I mean really. Fighters he fought of those guys you listed and they were in their prime and they were supposed to dismantle PBF, because of power and pressure Demarkus Corley, Diego Corrales and several more. He fought a bigger De La Hoya, who wasn't drained into making weight at 147, he fought him at 154. You guys need to stop with the hate and evaluate in the real world without emotion.

Let's see at first people said he was ducking Pac, he went forward( but many want revisionist history) and place the ducking tag on him. He will not fight Mosley because Mosley has power, he's stronger, and just as fast. So what had to happen to get this fight signed? Floyd's moniker of course "Money" for the right price, this prize fighter will fight. So is it ducking or does the money have to be right? So I attribute him not fighting those lesser fighters to their is no money in those fights and history has proven him right.

This post proves that you've completely bought into the belief that the zero on the right side of Floyd's record is what makes him great.

I guess Ali didn't need to fight Frazier for a third time since Smokin' Joe already had the number 2 on the right side of his name, right? After all, Frazier was exposed as a lesser fighter due to the early, brutal knockout he took at the hands of Foreman in Jamaica, right? And then Ali knocked out Foreman in Zaire, so what was the point of fighting Frazier a third time?

The point: Joe Frazier was the best Ali could have fought at that time, regardless of his record. So he fought him. A third time.

Boxing isn't an exercise in mathematics. It's an exercise of bravery, heart and skill. It's an exercise about taking on the best fighters in your current weight class, regardless of record. Mayweather has not done that on a consistent basis.

Just look at the names I listed in the prior post. All were considered to be the top contending bad-asses to Floyd's throne at that time in a weight class in which Floyd fought. Did he fight them? No.

Ali would have. And he did.

'Nuff said.

[pk500]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

I agree with Floyd, you fight for the money, period. All fighters come up trying to better their situation since its inception. Immigrants poured onto these shores from the early settling Ellis Island Irish, living in the 5 points found ways to better themselves through boxing. Promoters don't sign you for your legacy, they sign you for the money they can make. And as a fighter if you don't have the foresight to think about your future and monetary gains for your family, then go ahead and fight for free and have the legacy and the marquee go down in history, that you were a great fighter who fought all comers for free so therefore you had nothing too lose.

PRIZE FIGHTER.

This is ridiculous. Silly talk. Floyd Mayweather has reached meganova status in the sport. Any fight that he takes on will earn him high seven or eight figures.

No one else in the sport can command that kind of money. Not even Pacquiao. Is that not enough of a prize for the PRIZE FIGHTER?

So the excuse that Floyd only is taking on bankable fights is pure bullsh*t. EVERY fight that he's in produces big bank for him.

[pk500]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

Do you think Floyd would beat Sergio Martinez at 154?

Yes. Martinez is a rising star and quite a talent, but his biggest victory came against Pavlik, who is woefully slow and uses his chin as his first line of defense.

Martinez-Mayweather would be a good fight. But I think Floyd's speed and defense would be too much for Martinez.

[Money99]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

You're peeing into the wind pk500.
It's an argument of opinion or philosophy.

Some here believe fighters shouldn't fight the best. What's the point when you can lose, and therefore lose money? So continue to fight the best 'bankable' opponents compared to the the most skilled opposition.
Afterall, real fans of boxing never want to see the best fight the best and will happily give a pass to any fighter that chooses $$$ over greatness or heart.
Which again, is why Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson are 100000x the fighters that Floyd ever dreams of being.

So the excuse that Floyd only is taking on bankable fights is pure bullsh*t. EVERY fight that he's in produces big bank for him.

Again, you're talking to deaf ears.
Floyd says he can fight a pickle jar and make $100M. His fans say he can fight illiteracy and make $150M.
But somewhere between their lips flapping and words coming out, Floyd and his fans claim he shouldn't fight dangerous 'unknown' opponents because he can't make money doing so.
Huh?

[pk500]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

By Floyd avoiding the best in his division he's hurting the sport and it's fans. It's fighters like him that have so many people flocking to the UFC where the best are constantly fighting the best.

I can't stand UFC, but I do like how that sport's top stars don't care if there's a zero on the right side of their record. They all fight the best. If they lose, they fight again.

That's how it used to be in boxing. Was Joe Louis used up, worthless, a lesser fighter after he lost to Max Schmeling? No. He destroyed Schmeling in the rematch.

Were Robinson, Duran and Leonard chopped liver after their first losses? No. They became legends.

[pk500]

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The fighers you love will also choose the higher pay day as well. So just stop it man. If Paul Williams could get 10 million fighting Roy Jones Jr. or 3 Million to fight B Hop guess which fight he will chose? The same for Pac, Yuri ect.. So you hate them too. You need to separate the pre fight hype too sell tickets, from the fighter. If you are this big fight fan as you claim to be, then this ish should be just a re run too you.

RJJ and B Hop are both legends, first-ballot Hall of Famers.

Floyd could have fought fellow first-ballot Hall of Famer Shane Mosley five years ago and instead fought the legendary Sharmba Mitchell. Ironically, he would have made more of that precious cheddar by fighting Mosley.

There is a difference. I guess you're blinded by the greenbacks.

[pk500]

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You're peeing into the wind pk500.
It's an argument of opinion or philosophy.

Some here believe fighters shouldn't fight the best. What's the point when you can lose, and therefore lose money? So continue to fight the best 'bankable' opponents compared to the the most skilled opposition.
Afterall, real fans of boxing never want to see the best fight the best and will happily give a pass to any fighter that chooses $$$ over greatness or heart.
Which again, is why Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson are 100000x the fighters that Floyd ever dreams of being.



Again, you're talking to deaf ears.
Floyd says he can fight a pickle jar and make $100M. His fans say he can fight illiteracy and make $150M.
But somewhere between their lips flapping and words coming out, Floyd and his fans claim he shouldn't fight dangerous 'unknown' opponents because he can't make money doing so.
Huh?

Very well said, man.

[JerseySuave4]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

its easy to spot who flat out hates Floyd just from their statements.

[SHAKYR]

Re: Floyd Mayweather - Jim Rome Interview

(I had to repost this because it's so true IMO) If boxing was making the money it has today back in the early era do you think those boxers would of been humble? Do you think boxing would be worst than it is today? It's easy to judge those with something than those without.

Jack Dempsey, Jack Johnson, and Sugar Ray Robinson were about the money too! People need to do their research before hating.

[pk500]

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its easy to spot who flat out hates Floyd just from their statements.

Explain to me how reality equals hate.

I admire the hell out of Floyd Mayweather as a boxer. He's a tactical genius, arguably the best pure boxer of this generation.

I only wish he displayed those skills against all of the best fighters in his weight classes of his generation, like his predecessors did.

So again, explain to me how that equals "hate," which, by the way, is one of the most overused, stupidest words in the modern lexicon today.

If you disagree with someone, even in a logical and rational way, you're a "*****." Comical.

[aholbert32]

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This is an utter crock of sh*t. Floyd Mayweather has reached meganova status in the sport. Any fight that he takes on will earn him high seven or eight figures.

No one else in the sport can command that kind of money. Not even Pacquiao. Is that not enough of a prize for the PRIZE FIGHTER?

So the excuse that Floyd only is taking on bankable fights is pure bullsh*t. EVERY fight that he's in produces big bank for him.

Thats true now. That wasnt true before the Oscar/Hatton fights. Thats where he became a bankable PPV draw. I hate that I'm defending Floyd but what do you guys want? He tried to make a fight with the #1 Welterweight (Pac) and couldnt do it because of Pac's issue with the drug testing.

He could have taken a fight against Berto or Malinaggi but instead he chose to fight the #3 welterweight in the world (Mosley). You cant hold anything that happened in 2008 against him because he was retired.