For offline-only players, how is FNR4 against the CPU? A fair challenge?
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Re: FNR4 offline AI?
If you know how to play, the game is pretty easy. It's almost too easy on anything Pro or below.
When you put it on Champion, the CPU will get up at least 4 times a fight.
On HOF, you're more prone to getting knocked down via flash, and the CPU overall is just cheaper.
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You know how James Toney and Mayweather fight right? Imagine everybody like that. I thought I would have an advantage making a counter fighter and it turns out everyone is a counter fighter. Oh and the best thing is the counter phantom punches that decks you
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This game needs a tendency system for fighters. For example, have a tendency for workrate, clinching, throwing jabs, etc.
You knew this game would be flawed when the makers decided to "fight like the fighters" and use that as the model programmed for the AI.Comment
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Yep. You just throw a jab as the guy moves away from you and your boxer is sucked into range fora counter punch. Also, the CPU whiffs on one because he's out of range and you don't get the same "opportunity". Not that there should ever be one in the first place.Comment
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Re: FNR4 offline AI?
I totally agree! That's why I hope the producers use the tendencies list I sent them with the Wishlist for Fight Night Round 5.
Tendencies
LOGIC
In-fighter(_0_)Out-fighter
Body puncher(______0______)Head hunter
Stationary (______0______ ) Punches only from Sway
Stationary(______0______)Sways Often
Plodder(______0______)Mover
Passive(______0______)Aggressive Finisher
Counterpuncher(______0______ )Aggressive
Never Lunges(______0______)Often Lunges
Single punch(______0______)Combination puncher
Never Taunts(______0______)Taunts Alot
Dirty Fighter(_0_)Clean fighter
Never Feints(___0___)Often Feints
Flurries: slow(____0___)fast
Flurries: hard(___0____)soft
Home run hitter beginning(____0____)end of round able to end or turn the fight in your favor
First Half Of Fight
Defensive (______0______ ) Aggressive
Second Half Of Fight
Defensive (______0______ ) Aggressive
First Half Of Every Round:
Defensive (______0______ )Aggressive
Last Half Of Ever Round:
Defensive (______0______ )Aggressive
WHEN HURT
1-Dance Away
2-Clinch
3-Fight Back
4-Fight Dirty
AGAINST ROPES
1-Guard
2-Fight
3-Moves Off
WHEN BEING BACKED UP
1-Guard
2-Fight Back
DEFENSE
1-Guard
2-Sway Back Left & Right
3-Sway Back
4-Sway Forward
5-Sway Forward Left & Right
6-Clinch
7-Sway Step Forward
8-Sway Step Forward Left & Right
9-Sway Step Back Left & Right
10-Sway Step Back
PUNCH PARAMETER (default setting)
OUT-FIGHTING
HEAD
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
5-Left uppercut
6-Right uppercut
1-Special1
2-Special2
3-Special3
4-Special4
BODY
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
5-Left uppercut
6-Right uppercut
Lunging
HEAD
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
5-Left uppercut
6-Right uppercut
BODY
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
5-Left uppercut
6-Right uppercut
Sway Right
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
Sway Left
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
Sway Back/Right
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
Sway Back/Left
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
IN-FIGHTING
HEAD
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
5-Left uppercut
6-Right uppercut
7-Special:
1-Special1
2-Special2
3-Special3
4-Special4
BODY
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
5-Left uppercut
6-Right uppercut
Sway Right
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
Sway Left
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
Sway Back/Right
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
Sway Back/Left
1-Jab
2-Cross
3-Left hook
4-Right hook
FAVORITE COMBOS
IN FIGHTING
1
2
3
4
OUT FIGHTING
1
2
3
4
Control vs Boxer(____0____)
Control vs. Slugger(____0____)
Chin vs. Knockdown(____0____)
Chin vs. Knockout(____0____)
Absorb Punishment(____0____)
Killer Instinct(_____0_____)
Aggressiveness(____0_____)
Fast Starter(_____0_____)
Facts
-Sliders
- Aggressiveness (pressure fighter, runner or somewhere in between)
- Guard position (where fighter carries hands)
- Stance (traditional? wide and balanced? flatfooted? always on toes?)
- Head movement (how player moves head to slip punches...(bob and weave? Big wide head movement? or ever so slight?)
- Offensive Vs Counter punching (does he throw massive amount of punches like Hatton, or is he a super efficient counter puncher?)
- Body Vs Head (headhunter or rib cruncher)
- Combo Frequency (self explanatory)
- Showboat Vs Conservative (basically for celebrations and reactions to knockdowns and upon hearing results)
- Offensive Awareness (knowing when to throw the right punch and when the time is right to finish the opponent or when to salvage a decision)
- Defensive awareness (Ability to block and dodge punches and ability to neutralize opponents main weapon)
- Ring Generalship
- Power Sliders for every punch
- Speed Sliders for every punch
- Guard Buster (Break Through an opponent's guard)
- Second Wind (Stamina is replenished late in the fight)
- Brick Wall (Nearly impenetrable guard)Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.Comment
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Re: FNR4 offline AI?
I read your blog post about the suggestions for FNR5, and it's good to know there are true fans of the sport who know boxing and have expectations of what should be in the next game. I hope EA does use a lot of your ideas because these were also things I had in mind (even some I hadn't thought of). We'll see what happens though.Comment
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Re: FNR4 offline AI?
@ the OP if you set ur sliders like this,the game will be as real as it can get(which isnt saying much)but the fights are semi-enjoyable
champion difficulty-any less is a slaughter,and g.o.a.t makes the cpu flat out cheat and gives the cpu a super health bar-i wish devlopers would get out of this old cliche of making harder cpu difficulty just giving the cpu a bigger health bar and actually make the cpu change up their style and actually challenge you.
another one of EA's promo lies,as it says in the instructions that this game has R.E.A.L AI that actually learns your moves forcing you to change up your style---which it doesnt
2 minute rds--if you do 3 min rds,punch stats are so unrealistic its sad and if you choose 1 minute rds the cpu charges you the whole time like a bull
ref foul and damage-10
power 8
speed 9
toughness 7
physical damage-0
counter-0
accuracy-0
stamina-1
cpu offense 10
cpu defense 10
cpu punch output-5Comment
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