Pacquiao to Fight Margarito in November

[Jukeman]

Re: Pacquiao to Fight Margarito in November

Floyd is the ultimate b****. He'll have three backyard youtube bouts against all his baby mamas before he fight's Pac.

thats a bit over the top...

and the whole "internet beef"

It was a live broadcast on Ustream, stans started taunting Pac and Floyd bought into it...I was logged in watching...

Def not a smart move...

People act like he just made a youtube vid out the blue to disrespect Pac lol

[ex carrabba fan]

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thats a bit over the top...

and the whole "internet beef"

It was a live broadcast on Ustream, stans started taunting Pac and Floyd bought into it...I was logged in watching...

Def not a smart move...

People act like he just made a youtube vid out the blue to disrespect Pac lol

It really doesn't matter that it was a Ustream, dude really showed his ignorance and the fact that he's just gutter trash.

Anytime you're an icon, spewing blatant racial slurs like that is just unacceptable.

I had no problems with his bitch made self before that Ustream. Now I just want him to get in the ring and for his face to end up like Cotto's and Margarita's.




PBF's face is next

[grunt]

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It really doesn't matter that it was a Ustream, dude really showed his ignorance and the fact that he's just gutter trash.

Anytime you're an icon, spewing blatant racial slurs like that is just unacceptable.

I had no problems with his bitch made self before that Ustream. Now I just want him to get in the ring and for his face to end up like Cotto's and Margarita's.




PBF's face is next

shhhh PBF has defense. Please show Clottey face after his fight with Manny.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Yeah Clottey did well with just blocking all 12 rounds and not doing anything else. That wasn't really a fight.

I didn't say it will happen to PBF's face, I said I want it to.

[grunt]

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Yeah Clottey did well with just blocking all 12 rounds and not doing anything else. That wasn't really a fight.

I didn't say it will happen to PBF's face, I said I want it to.

PBF was wrong for what he said but one part *******, one part master promoter. When Manny/Pac fights nations will stop and watch this fight.

Clottey is a very poor man PBF but if Clottey could defend Manny attacks what you think a bigger/stronger/ quicker/ counter puncher is going to do.

[ex carrabba fan]

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You aren't seriously using Clottey to measure what PBF would do to Pac... come on.

To me the odds would be 50/50, and I would call someone unreasonable if they favored either fighter by more than 60/40.

Neither Pac nor PBF has faced anything like what the other possesses, so please stop with the PBF homerism.

Homerism on both sides were amusing at first but now they're just sad to read.

[grunt]

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You aren't seriously using Clottey to measure what PBF would do to Pac... come on.

To me the odds would be 50/50, and I would call someone unreasonable if they favored either fighter by more than 60/40.

Neither Pac nor PBF has faced anything like what the other possesses, so please stop with the PBF homerism.

Homerism on both sides were amusing at first but now they're just sad to read.

Yes, I am using a defensive fighter against an offensive fighter. I have seen Sweet Pee vs Chavez and Chavez was one of the most accurate fighters I ever seen but I watched how a slick south paw made a hard fight easy. I am not a homer but it is too much history of great defensive fighters taking out great offensive fighters.

Manny habe faced quick/fast/ fighters in his career both sparring and professional. I don't think Manny faced anyone like PBF.

[ex carrabba fan]

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PBF has faced someone near the same level as Manny?

Stop it.

I'm just going to consider you unreasonable and call it a topic on that one. No use in debating this thing, as it's the biggest dead horse in sports.

[grunt]

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PBF has faced someone near the same level as Manny?

Stop it.

I'm just going to consider you unreasonable and call it a topic on that one. No use in debating this thing, as it's the biggest dead horse in sports.

You know PBF faced and sparred against some of the top professional fighters when he was amateur. He faced speed and power and I guess I don't agree with Manny being a once in life fighter. He is a good fighter but not a great fighter. He came along at the right time. Manny has too many defensive issues. He throw punches and he consistently drop his hands and with a good counter puncher he is made to order.

I am trying to talk x's and o's and you are getting upset. Frig it look at the 9th round and count how many times he drop his hand after he throw his punches.

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[ex carrabba fan]

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Firstly, nobody is getting upset.

Even though I think PBF is a bitch, I still love watching him fight, and he is one of my favorite athletes.

As far as X's and O's go, everyone knows by now that Manny is not the type to avoid every punch or block every punch. He takes his shots. That's not debatable.

As far as PBF goes, I'd just like to see how reacts to 12 rounds of non stop activity. The past few fights vs JMM and Shane, those guys never challenged him and pushed the pressure consistently because each fighter was lacking a component Pac has [speed, ability to throw combo's, punching power]

Shane "hurt" him like once, but that really had no effect on PBF and Shane gassed. JMM just never got a rhythm and was eventually reduced just to trying to dodge PBF's jab.

We all know Pac won't gas. At least until around the late rounds. Whether or not you think Pac is a once in a lifetime fighter, his style and skill is probably at a higher level than guys he's sparred against in the past. I mean honestly you saying that is beyond laughable. Bringing up sparring partners?

[grunt]

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Firstly, nobody is getting upset.

Even though I think PBF is a bitch, I still love watching him fight, and he is one of my favorite athletes.

As far as X's and O's go, everyone knows by now that Manny is not the type to avoid every punch or block every punch. He takes his shots. That's not debatable.

As far as PBF goes, I'd just like to see how reacts to 12 rounds of non stop activity. The past few fights vs JMM and Shane, those guys never challenged him and pushed the pressure consistently.

Shane "hurt" him like once, but that really had no effect on PBF and Shane gassed. JMM just never got a rhythm and was eventually reduced just to trying to dodge PBF's jab.

We all know Pac won't gas. At least until around the late rounds. Whether or not you think Pac is a once in a lifetime fighter, his style and skill is probably at a higher level than guys he's sparred against in the past. I mean honestly you saying that is beyond laughable. Bringing up sparring partners?

You know that Floyd sparred against Frankie Warren and Pernell (sweet pea) and Sweet Pea is faster than Manny and a better fighter.

Again Manny defense is awful. He jabs and bring his hands back to his waist. You can get by with other offnesive fighters but he is made to order for a counter puncher. If he couldn't crack Clottey defense how will he crack PBF defense.

PBF defends and counter in one motion. PBF is a tough fighter for someone with poor defense.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Sparring though? Sparring?

I just don't get that one, it's lost on me. I don't care about sparring sessions from the past.

Anyway, once again it wasn't a fight against Clottey. That was an embarrassment to the sport.

If PBF did the same thing as Clottey, it would be the same outcome too. I am still not sure why you are using Clottey as some sort of measuring stick... as if to say PBF will execute the same strategy as Clottey.

I really don't think there is anything else to be said about this. The internet has spoken for both camps and really I don't think it's reasonable to say either one has a major advantage. It's a dead horse.

[Jukeman]

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[pietasterp]

Re: Pacquiao to Fight Margarito in November

Yawn. Can we just all decide that there's no point to talking about Mayweather vs Pacquiao until it actually happens? There's nothing to be gained by fans of the respective fighters stating their cases ad nauseum in a hypothetical bout that may or may not even happen. I think every possible point, argument, or opinion on the matter has been recycled on endless loop for the past year and a half - we get it, Floyd is a wuss and Pac's on the juice. Is there anything new anyone is bringing to the table at this point?

Anyway, on a more interesting note....what happens to Margo at this point? His career is pretty much finished, right? He can't hang with top-level fighters (sans plaster hand wraps) and without the threat of face-rearranging power, he is totally uninteresting to watch. At this point, there is no compelling reason to watch the guy fight. He never should have even gotten in the ring with Pac; if he weren't a Top Rank guy, that fight never happens.

As far as Manny, if he fights Shane Mosely he should just officially proclaim himself to be on the "pound washed-up fighters into the ground" tour. I know it's not his fault that the 1 fight that matters can't get made, but honestly, at some point do people just get tired of trying to come up with fake hyperbole about how impressive he is in beating down glorified club fighters? I mean, Hatton, Clottey, Margarito...not exactly murderer's row there....

[ex carrabba fan]

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About your last point about Pac's latest opponents, I somewhat agree, the praise and "oh my God, 8 weight classes" thing is a bit much, but it also makes me sad about the state of the sport.

Like you said, it's not Pac's fault, because honestly who else is out there? Outside of Shane? Floyd hasn't exactly outdone Pac in that department either. So once again, kinda sad about the state of the sport.

Pac's had to move around all these different weights to find any fight that would be of semi-interest, and he's pretty much made most of them as entertaining as you can ask.

Boxing desperately needs a star or two, so what they say about Pac is not surprising. Especially when you consider the fashion in which he is beating some of these guys and then you throw in the different weight classes. I do agree though, it's overhyped.