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  • Phobia
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jan 2008
    • 11623

    #16
    Re: Beating Packman

    Originally posted by Da_Czar
    HAHA I STOPPED HIM !!!!! Dropped him in the 3rd. Just like you guys suggested
    I worked the jab and was just looking for a nice 12 combo not trying to win each exchange just combo and work off counters. The I started retreating off my jab and letting him close distance..

    In the 3rd I jab get distance and anticipate him closing with a modified straight right.... He walks right into it... put his neck on a hinge... He goes down for a 5 count...

    He gets up and I stay patient then I double up the jab and retreat again and you guessed it same striaght right as he closes and its good night Irene....

    He has beat me like 20 times but the KO was the ultimate justification....

    Of course I was losing in the judges eyes until the knockout.

    DAM that felt great.... Not just blind punching and praying. Gameplan was executed to perfection. Nothing better than that family.

    Why the hell don't they have replay on this dam demo ?
    nice Czar!!! If you look at the ratio of win to losses it is about right. Pac should win the majortiy of the time, but there is always that punchers chance Cotto could win against Pac in real life.....doubtful...but a chance.

    I also would like to see the replay system because I know I am going to be making some crazy highlight reels. Even without if, if you look at my Pac vs Cotto clash of titans video. If you have a decent editing software then you can just zoom if enough to remove the bars. You lose a little bit of quality but its the best we can do with the demo.

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    • Motown
      OS Brew Connoisseur
      • Jul 2002
      • 9169

      #17
      Re: Beating Packman

      I absolutely DOMINATED Pac w/ Cotto, & his face was showing it...it was a bloody mess...Cut over eye,under,swollen,& split nose,etc...& w/ 2s left in the final round he warped...i mean lunged @ what look like 20ft w/ a body shot & KO'd me...BS anyway, i got so damned pissed & mashed the controller to the floor...now my body punch modifier is done. Lookin @ some controllers now, but I'm disabled from the demo...done.

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      • Phobia
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jan 2008
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        #18
        Re: Beating Packman

        Originally posted by Motown
        I absolutely DOMINATED Pac w/ Cotto, & his face was showing it...it was a bloody mess...Cut over eye,under,swollen,& split nose,etc...& w/ 2s left in the final round he warped...i mean lunged @ what look like 20ft w/ a body shot & KO'd me...BS anyway, i got so damned pissed & mashed the controller to the floor...now my body punch modifier is done. Lookin @ some controllers now, but I'm disabled from the demo...done.
        Mo all in good joking fun but .......Smart

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        • N51_rob
          Faceuary!
          • Jul 2003
          • 14805

          #19
          Re: Beating Packman

          Originally posted by Phobia
          I did some testing last night and Pac's over hand modified left is way over powered. I went online and knocked out every Cotto I faced just throwing that punch.

          I will need a little more time test but give it a shot and see what you think.
          I didn't fight you, but that secret is out it would seem. Every Manny that I fight, tries to time me coming in, and throw that punch. First time I fought a guy who did that I got destroyed, now I come in moving my head looking to counter. But yeah Manny's left with the power modifier is a brutal.
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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
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            #20
            Re: Beating Packman

            Originally posted by N51_rob
            I didn't fight you, but that secret is out it would seem. Every Manny that I fight, tries to time me coming in, and throw that punch. First time I fought a guy who did that I got destroyed, now I come in moving my head looking to counter. But yeah Manny's left with the power modifier is a brutal.
            Yea I like to fight realistic that is my M.O. but since this is a demo and a online one at that. We got to try and find every exploit we can right now. Me and the community guys got in a party chat last night and recorded footage of some of the issues. I am not going to go over all of them here because we don't want them getting leaked to the public super easy. But there is some ways to win just about every fight online with a few areas of "knowledge".

            Like the video I am throwing up of me beating on Tyson. I did not even remotely try and fight realistic. I threw hundreds of punches. But my intent was to test this so called "weak" chin of Tyson. I have yet to KO Tyson so I can't find this issue yet that people talk about.

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            • bill2451
              Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 1123

              #21
              Re: Beating Packman

              Originally posted by Phobia
              Like the video I am throwing up of me beating on Tyson. I did not even remotely try and fight realistic. I threw hundreds of punches. But my intent was to test this so called "weak" chin of Tyson. I have yet to KO Tyson so I can't find this issue yet that people talk about.
              I think its just hit or miss (no pun intended). I got hit with a non powered non counter jab by Ali in the 1st round and it stunned me pretty bad (after which I got knocked down)

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              • Phobia
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                • Jan 2008
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                #22
                Re: Beating Packman

                Originally posted by bill2451
                I think its just hit or miss (no pun intended). I got hit with a non powered non counter jab by Ali in the 1st round and it stunned me pretty bad (after which I got knocked down)
                Agreed but that is the thing that needs to be tweaked on a "hit detection" level. It does not look right to see a guy eat 30 heavy power modified shots square on the chin. Then a quick some what weak looking shot lands and it knocks the guy down or stuns him. It takes the "physics" that are highly touted as being so great for judging knockouts and big shots and throws it out the window. Because clearly the animations are not linking right with the detection.

                I think the game is excellent and will be one of my favorite games this year. But there is some key areas that need to be looked into. Not so much for this revolutionary overhaul but instead for simple tuning reasons.

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                • acarrero
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 432

                  #23
                  Re: Beating Packman

                  If Cotto's right hand was as good as it is in the demo, he would have a good chance of beating Pacman in a rematch, especially if it's at 154 with a real trainer in his corner. Emanuel Steward is working with Cotto on that right hand, he just had surgery recently on his right shoulder and Emanuel thinks that will make a big difference, but he had stated previously that Cotto has been fighting with basically one hand for the past few years.

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                  • bill2451
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
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                    #24
                    Re: Beating Packman

                    Originally posted by Phobia
                    I think the game is excellent and will be one of my favorite games this year. But there is some key areas that need to be looked into. Not so much for this revolutionary overhaul but instead for simple tuning reasons.
                    The sliders will hopefully be able to take care of the fatigue and punch power issues, so those shouldn't be a problem in the full release. I think my biggest gripes will be the still lacking (albeit improved) footwork, questionable judging at times (including the lack of draws online, which especially in 3 rounds, can cause some very funky judging), and the lack of feints (I'd love to see a few animations for this added in... maybe connected to L/R3 [clicking the analogs in])

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                    • Phobia
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                      • Jan 2008
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                      #25
                      Re: Beating Packman

                      Originally posted by bill2451
                      The sliders will hopefully be able to take care of the fatigue and punch power issues, so those shouldn't be a problem in the full release. I think my biggest gripes will be the still lacking (albeit improved) footwork, questionable judging at times (including the lack of draws online, which especially in 3 rounds, can cause some very funky judging), and the lack of feints (I'd love to see a few animations for this added in... maybe connected to L/R3 [clicking the analogs in])
                      Yea I agree Bill. I think we the user can make some of these changes with sliders. But I got to admit I am more of a online player. I game with all my homies from OS and we are always doing leagues and what not. So while the sliders can finally be used online (from what I know). I still would like to be able to get down on some rank matches without having it become a cheese fest. Sooooo here is to hoping they tune it properly and weed out any exploits.

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                      • acarrero
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 432

                        #26
                        Re: Beating Packman

                        I hope the lack of draws online is specific to the demo. Any official word on this? Doesn't make sense to change the scoring.

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                        • Vast
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 4015

                          #27
                          Re: Beating Packman

                          Originally posted by acarrero
                          I hope the lack of draws online is specific to the demo. Any official word on this? Doesn't make sense to change the scoring.
                          I've had at least 2 draws online. I don't know where people are getting this from.
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                          • N51_rob
                            Faceuary!
                            • Jul 2003
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                            #28
                            I've had my best fights by using Cotto's left hook to the body. Was able to KD and KO him by going from the body to the head.

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                            • Phobia
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                              #29
                              Re: Beating Packman

                              Originally posted by Vast
                              I've had at least 2 draws online. I don't know where people are getting this from.
                              Not sure either Vast because multiple people have confirmed it is in for the demo yet some people keep putting the funky scoring on "lack of draws". You know the internet

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                              • bill2451
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 1123

                                #30
                                Re: Beating Packman

                                the no draws online was confirmed by FNC devs in a chat yesterday... so for you people saying you've gotten draws online, idk what to tell you. Either you're lying, you got a different copy of the game than everyone else, or the devs are lying.
                                Last edited by bill2451; 02-04-2011, 09:01 PM.

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