FN Champions Patch Impressions

[jtdribbles25]

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Jabs matter and I don't mean the flicker/spam jab. No more guys leading with hooks to the body from 5 feet out. I just send a single jab and the impact and effect is felt in the game. I can now established a jab and work my offense and defense off my jab.

This is the best playing boxing game ever. I know more is needed but this game is a pure joy for me to play. I love working my angles now because my frigging jabs work. Good stuff.

I agree with this. Workiing the jab is really key in this game as it should be. I hope they don't take the game back to default status. I don't need the downfalls of that.

[jtdribbles25]

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I think this has less to do with the stamina, and more to do with the punch tendencies of each individual fighter. The punch output is simply too high, thus making the CPU gas out quicker.

this is true. For the offline side of it, just edit the tendencies, and the game plays beautifully. I end many fights in the 40-50% stamina rate (both sides). at default the cpu just does not "manage" it's punch output. during the game there is no "a.i" regarding what it's trying to do. It would not matter what stamina in apatch/tuner was adjusted to.

[PrettyT11]

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Am I missing something or did EA change it to only xbox live gold members can get the tuner??

[1WEiRDguy]

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Its taken me some time to gather my thoughts from completely outraged to a more calm approach..

I will say this, I will be trading this game in. I can no longet sit back in legacy mode and continue to lose fights to the AI when the stamina is unaffected. Before people come out and say i suck and im just not good, just hear me out...

I dont expect to win every fight...if i lose, it needs to be b/c i was out boxed as it should be...I've lost two fights in a row to the same guy by getting knocked down, not out, in the 12th round with under 5 seconds to go. I get up around the count of 3 both times it happened, only for the opponent to get credit for the K.O. What gives?? The first time it happened, i made the mistake of training a week before the fight, so my stamina was already at 50%...I shouldnt have made it to the 12th round, but whatever...i wasnt so disappointed at that loss b/c clearly, he won on the scorecards for every round...The rematch is where i got ticked off. After i get knocked down in the 12th, get up...he is declared the winner...i looked at the scorecards and i won 9/11 rounds...how did i lose this fight??

My next gripe was pre patch and it appears to have not been fixed post patch. The CPU throws 400+ power punches a fight (probably lands about 30% of them), yet towards the end in the latter rounds, his stamina is 80+ while mine has severely decreased avg around 30-50%. Im only averaging about 200 power punches a fight, and that is being exaggerated a little bit as i only throw them when the opportunity strikes...

My counter attempts seemed to have been nerfed with this patch...punches i was able to land pre patch have disappeared and have turned into whiffs...if the CPU was experiencing the same thing, then i would say no big deal, but the CPU still appears to land at the same rate it did pre patch...

as far as online is concerned...i dont even waste my time with it...im strictly offline

[Sausage]

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this is true. For the offline side of it, just edit the tendencies, and the game plays beautifully. I end many fights in the 40-50% stamina rate (both sides). at default the cpu just does not "manage" it's punch output. during the game there is no "a.i" regarding what it's trying to do. It would not matter what stamina in apatch/tuner was adjusted to.

How did you determine how much to adjust the a.i. How many punches are they throwing with adjustments?

[Jdoug312]

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Just had 2 fun ranked matches. I was Ali for both. First guy picks Marciano, and beats me by unanimous decision. I had a cut on my cheek in the 4th, but he didn't stray from his gameplan to end the fight early. I lost all but 4 rounds, and tied the 9th. I went for a head hunter approach, while he mixed head and body with a 60-40 split.

My stamina was worn and my body destroyed. My cut was getting better between the rounds, but my nose was still bloody and blood was on one side of my face. The only knockdowns came in the last round, where I scored a knockdown on him first. This gave me a bit of hope, knowing I would need another to get a draw or even possibly a win. That plan failed, as he then floors me as well, I get up and with 7 seconds left he drops me a 2nd time. I get up and let the judges have their way. He improved to 20-1, I went to 10-4.

Next match I was looking for revenge. Fought a David Haye user, and crushed him every round, knocking him down in the 1st and 2nd, then ko-ing him in the 4th. 11-4 now.

[shotgunshine]

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Im loving this game for the most part post patch. Played a couple of online bare knuckle matches earlier. First match I was David Haye and my opponent just had to pick one of the best HW's in Andre Bishop. He pretty much demolished me. Got me out of there by the second round.


Played another match with a different opponent. I picked Rocky Marciano and he picked Joe Louis. It was just a fabulous match. Since it was a bare knuckle match, both of our faces were a bloody, swollen mess by the end of the third round. We were pretty even in punches landed though he was getting the better of the countering game and I was getting him good to the body. He would throw a four or five punch combo and I would put two or three to his body, ocassionally mixing in some quick 1 2's to his head. The body work paid off in a big way as he was gassed around the 7th round. I dropped him three times that round but he managed to get up but he was pretty much done for. 8th round came and I dropped him again fairly quick and that was all she wrote.

[JayBee74]

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I've officially given up on the game. I like playing online and the cheesing has become repugnant. WAY TO GO EA!!!!!

[fistofrage]

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I've officially given up on the game. I like playing online and the cheesing has become repugnant. WAY TO GO EA!!!!!

Instead of just giving up on this game, post changes you want to see. Your a boxing fan, I am sure you have some great ideas.

I say this, because this next patch is probably our last shot at getting things fixed otherwise we will have to wait 2 more years to get a new boxing game and it will most likely be very similar to this unless the real boxing fans make some noise.

[gmac0322]

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Instead of just giving up on this game, post changes you want to see. Your a boxing fan, I am sure you have some great ideas.

I say this, because this next patch is probably our last shot at getting things fixed otherwise we will have to wait 2 more years to get a new boxing game and it will most likely be very similar to this unless the real boxing fans make some noise.

Did they say what they were working on for the next patch?

[fistofrage]

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Did they say what they were working on for the next patch?

Not to my knowledge, but I am sure they are working on one. Also, if I am correct, you only get 2 patches before they become expensive to certify so this may be our last hope.

On a side note, FNC has sold roughly 240,000 copies on bothe the 360 and the PS3. SO almost Half a million in its first month. That seems pretty good considering MLB the SHow has only sold 157,000 and MLB 2K11 even less.

Suprising that a boxing game could outsell baseball.

[acts238shaun]

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I started this thread, please support and leave comments.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5549986.page#13188600

[CountryBoy74]

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Tuner should never affect Offline. It ruined Offline, Hooks do not connect, When you Jab the Game Stutters and the Ali is always tired at the half of the fight and Swelling is gone.

Offline just needs to keep the patch for offline and add back the One Punch Knock Outs and more Flash Knock Downs, Speed Up stringing Combination punching together. Foot Work needs to be able to switch directions from side to side faster when right next to the opponent. I would also like to see another second added to the time when you hurt your opponent where you can hit them more on the way down. The Tuner absolutely destroyed offline game play.

Also getting rid of the One Punch Knock Outs and Swelling, and decreasing Flash Knock Downs was beyond ridiculous. The Sliders need to work...All of them

[JayBee74]

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Instead of just giving up on this game, post changes you want to see. Your a boxing fan, I am sure you have some great ideas.

I say this, because this next patch is probably our last shot at getting things fixed otherwise we will have to wait 2 more years to get a new boxing game and it will most likely be very similar to this unless the real boxing fans make some noise.

I still play it-it's almost like a bad addiction, but it's becoming too much like work and I'm now close to really closing the book on this game. Online has just become tiresome, although I will admit my 25-5 run was somewhat enjoyable until I realized I can't beat the master cheesers.

I might pick up that Arcade Wrestling game and give it a try.

The frustration with this game, even in victory is not worth it.

[clivo1050]

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I still play it-it's almost like a bad addiction, but it's becoming too much like work and I'm now close to really closing the book on this game. Online has just become tiresome, although I will admit my 25-5 run was somewhat enjoyable until I realized I can't beat the master cheesers.

I might pick up that Arcade Wrestling game and give it a try.

The frustration with this game, even in victory is not worth it.

I'm very close to putting this game down till they fix it, also. Post patch/tuner, it's like they took one step forward and two steps back. The changes were supposed to make the game more sim, but it has empowered the cheesers.