Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

[N51_rob]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Usually the ref makes a gesture with his hands signaling the fighters to resume boxing, not looking off into never never land.

Rewatch it. He did make that signal, right after he said "let's go!"

[bakan723]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

To say Ortiz had NO CHANCE is just dumb. Especially with a knockout type fighter like he is. Yea, he prob would of lost , but NO CHANCE ? Come on now.

[bakan723]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Rewatch it. He did make that signal, right after he said "let's go!"

Where can i rewatch it ?

[N51_rob]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Where can i rewatch it ?

I'm sure it's all over the net right now, otherwise next Saturday on HBO and HBO on Demand.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

To say Ortiz had NO CHANCE is just dumb. Especially with a knockout type fighter like he is. Yea, he prob would of lost , but NO CHANCE ? Come on now.

Thats kind of my point as well. I am in no way an Ortiz fan. If anything I was more of a Mayweather fan given that I think he is one of the best pure boxers in the history of the sport. His attitude out of the ring I could deal without (but could not care less given I watch him for his skills not life lessons) and unfortunatly now I have that feeling inside the ring as well no matter how good he is at the sport I dont feel like he respects the sport.

But Ortiz came into this fight huge and was going to try and do nothing but muscle up and try to catch Mayweather. I think that is where the headbut came from he is young an impatient and got frustrated at not being able to catch him early and knew if it went longer without him getting to him he was just going to fall further behind.

I would have liked to see Floyd get tested and see what he was made of after getting tagged, if it happened. Mosley didn't have near the power Ortiz does and caught Floyd twice but just was never a threat because he just didnt have the power Ortiz does. Now that is not even a possibility.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

You are honestly saying you think that Ortiz knew they were fighting. How many times during the rounds did you see him stand in front of Mayweather with his gloves at his side.

They were in the center of the ring where the ref called them too and gave all the signals for begining to fight again. How did he not know they were going? What was he waiting for another Michael Buffer introduction?

Regardless of what was legal and what was illegal, both fighters displayed a complete lack of class. Can we at least agree on that?

Ahhh the catch22 of being Floyd Mayweather. Even when you're innocent in something we need to at least find a way to make something at least kinda your fault. 'Okay we won't blame you for everything this time, but you're at least partly responsible.'

I'm not calling a boxer classless for actually BOXING in a boxing match cause his opponent was apparently trying to give him a bj during the fight.

It's like saying a football team shouldn't hike the ball after the refs have placed it and blown the whistle for the play to start cause the defense was trying to get Tom Brady's autograph instead of lining up. Or that DWade shouldn't launch an inbound's alley oop to LeBron after the ref gives him the ball cause the other team is looking at the Heat cheerleaders' asses.

[Bumi]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Regardless of what was legal and what was illegal, both fighters displayed a complete lack of class. Can we at least agree on that?

No, because I fail to see the lack of class. After being headbutted, kissed, hugged twice, and called to fight again, he commenced fighting. It isn't his fault Ortiz wasn't prepared, didn't want to fight, or wanted to continue hugging and kissing.

But hey, it's Floyd. Lets vilify him for something, even if he didn't do anything wrong, cheap, dirty, etc.

[bakan723]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Yea, it's called taking advantage of the situation, which was in his right to do. But come on, he would be looked at in a totally different light right now if he were to beat him in a normal fashion.

[Bumi]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Yea, it's called taking advantage of the situation, which was in his right to do. But come on, he would be looked at in a totally different light right now if he were to beat him in a normal fashion.

No he wouldn't. He'd still be hated, and people would still claim he's scared of Manny. The only difference is, had he outpointed Ortiz, instead of calling him a cheater people would accuse him of running or not being an entertaining fighter, or having to pot shot to win. Etc.

[GiantYankee]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Regardless of what was legal and what was illegal, both fighters displayed a complete lack of class. Can we at least agree on that?

Yes! But I would incude Cortez. He acted like a rookie ref doing his first fight with an issue. He looked lost in the final 25sec of the round.

[1Rose]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

You know what they say...

Spoiler

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[Coast]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

My dude, just cause he can knock out every fighter before him doesnt mean he has a chance. Look at his track record.

He fights boxer-punchers, Floyd is the first Defensive Guru he fought.

He had no chance from the start, he has no defense. If guys like Maidana can tag him at well, ****, thats all I have to say. Maidana is NOT fast at all and he does not have precision.

Ortiz tried to step up against a WORLD CLASS FIGHTER, and his 13% punching shows how ineffective his "KO" skills are.

In all sports, defense wins championships. Boston Celtics strived with Defense in their championship runs, no different in boxing. DEFENSE IS KEY TO ANY CHAMPIONSHIP.

[Jattbreed]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Just bring on Pac vs. Mayweather

Take the test after the fight.

Let's do it, warmups are over, let the fight of the decade happen.

[vision]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Does anyone here think that Sergio Martinez would've been a better match up? He's a highly underrated boxer, and a beast of a counter puncher.

[bakan723]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

My dude, just cause he can knock out every fighter before him doesnt mean he has a chance. Look at his track record.

He fights boxer-punchers, Floyd is the first Defensive Guru he fought.

He had no chance from the start, he has no defense. If guys like Maidana can tag him at well, ****, thats all I have to say. Maidana is NOT fast at all and he does not have precision.

Ortiz tried to step up against a WORLD CLASS FIGHTER, and his 13% punching shows how ineffective his "KO" skills are.

In all sports, defense wins championships. Boston Celtics strived with Defense in their championship runs, no different in boxing. DEFENSE IS KEY TO ANY CHAMPIONSHIP.

There's no guarantees. Yea, he prob would of lost, but sometimes it only takes 1 punch to turn things around.