Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

[jtdribbles25]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

do you guys really live in a place in which you can't understand the dysfunctional nature of this family. It's not the first father/son athletic duo to be at each other. This type of dynamic is prevalent in sports. Sons often harbor tons of resentment towards the father for numerous reasons. this is not that big of a deal, because the relationship has always been fractured.

[bigeastbumrush]

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With a family dynamic like that I can now understand why Jr sometimes acts the way he does. You could hear it in Jr. voice how hurt he is. I really feel sorry for him.

You feel sorry for him?

I'm a fan of PBF in the ring, but this was just stupid.

Saying his father was nothing because he was locked up? Well, he must have forgotten that he's pending legal cases for stupidity as well and could face the same fate and predicament that he's putting his own kids in.

This was ignorance personified.

I'm not defending either one of them, but PBF could've handled it more like a man rather than a spoiled rotten kid, referring to himself in the 3rd person. Even Roger was like let it go.

[49UNCFan]

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You all are speaking on a situation nobody but them two know about. I'm sure they can fight or whatever but at the end of the day if something was to happen to either one of them they would be there for each other

[ex carrabba fan]

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You feel sorry for him?

I'm a fan of PBF in the ring, but this was just stupid.

Saying his father was nothing because he was locked up? Well, he must have forgotten that he's pending legal cases for stupidity as well and could face the same fate and predicament that he's putting his own kids in.

This was ignorance personified.

I'm not defending either one of them, but PBF could've handled it more like a man rather than a spoiled rotten kid, referring to himself in the 3rd person. Even Roger was like let it go.

You all are speaking on a situation nobody but them two know about. I'm sure they can fight or whatever but at the end of the day if something was to happen to either one of them they would be there for each other

I agree with both of you.

It's a sad situation all around but in the end I'm sure they'd be there for one another when it mattered.

Sports apparently just isn't something they can co-exist in, but there's no way I feel sorry for any of them. Both of them say things that just leave me SMH.

[utexas]

Anybody watching the fight?

[GHOSTFACE03]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Ortiz-vs-Mayweather. SMH Just not the fight we all wanted.

Class-C vs. Class-A fighter... Do we still need to ask who will win?

This shouldn't even be a PPV but what the heck...


Prove me wrong but no matter what happens, Floyd still won't fight Manny regardless. End of story.

*sigh* So it's ok for manny to fight a very old marquez but not ok for mayweather to fight a young much bigger fast southpaw? That's pretty hypocritical.

Anyway ortiz could be a warmup for pac.

[umfrumDC]

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You feel sorry for him?

I'm a fan of PBF in the ring, but this was just stupid.

Saying his father was nothing because he was locked up? Well, he must have forgotten that he's pending legal cases for stupidity as well and could face the same fate and predicament that he's putting his own kids in.

This was ignorance personified.

I'm not defending either one of them, but PBF could've handled it more like a man rather than a spoiled rotten kid, referring to himself in the 3rd person. Even Roger was like let it go.

I agree that part shouldve been edited out, but its about ratings and hbo is using floyd as the bad guy vs the good guy in Ortiz... father-son arguments like that are more common then u think, I just wish it didnt happen infront of america... another thing, I dont think floyd is a spoiled rotten kid either he wasnt born in money on a silver spoon... that man has earned everything he has, it aint like he signed an exclusive contract and stop performing like alot of other athletes. He is always working hard to stay on top give him that respect.

[umfrumDC]

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Anybody watching the fight?

Im definitely watching and cant wait to see how floyd fight against a young, hungry and aggressive fighter like ortiz... I feel like ortiz can bring the best out of floyd because of his aggression and punching power. I see floyd fighting toe to toe at times in this fight. I think floyd is taking ortiz seriously and if he wins he will fight pacman or khan next... oh yea I like Floyd in a decision but I wouldnt be surprised if he stops Ortiz... I said it 1st

[Control-X]

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*sigh* So it's ok for manny to fight a very old marquez but not ok for mayweather to fight a young much bigger fast southpaw? That's pretty hypocritical.

Anyway ortiz could be a warmup for pac.

No I never said that. What I meant is I do not want that Ortiz-Mayweather fight and that Manny-JMMarquez fight as well. It's a waste of time and strength. You and I know that the people around the world want to see Floyd fight Manny. Not Floyd against an inexperienced Ortiz. Not Manny against an old bag Marquez.

It should be Floyd "MONEY" Mayweather Jr versus Manny "PAC-MAN" Pacquiao!

This is THE FIGHT THAT MUST AND SHOULD HAPPEN AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THESE TWO BATTLE ALREADY? WHEN THEY'RE PAST THEIR PRIME?

Ortiz is no match for Floyd. Likewise, Dinamita is not a blasting dynamite for Pacquiao anymore. We all know who will come out the winners of these baby fights since it's a no-brainer fight.

I am a great fan of Floyd's game, I even patterned my style with his but his excuses to avoid a Pacquiao fight is just sickening unbearable.

[Control-X]

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Anyway ortiz could be a warmup for pac.

Could be is all we can say, but to me, no matter what will happen in the future, Floyd will keep trying to avoid Manny in a boxing match. I'm more inclined to believe he'll fight Khan after Ortiz but not Manny Pacquiao. He just won't dare take that man. It is what it is.

[Money99]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 17th

Since we're only a couple of days away from the fight, I'm going to give my prediction.
I know you've all been waiting to hear what some slob with Wi-fi thinks about a pro boxing match, so here goes!

This is going to be a competitive fight through the first 4-6 rounds.
Mayweather's older, and he's been off for 15 months. Add in Ortiz's youth, exuberance, power and southpaw stance, and I think he's going to give Floyd trouble in the first half of this fight.
We may even see Floyd touch the canvas.

However, in the championship rounds, I expect Floyd to figure Ortiz out and come away with a close, but unanimous decision.
His counter-punching, speed, accuracy and experience will be too much for young Victor.

However, Ortiz will look great in defeat because he'll fight hard and go out on his sheild.
Mayweather's lackluster performance in the first-half of the fight will raise even more questions as to whether he could survive against Manny.

Mayweather UD Ortiz, 115-113.

[N51_rob]

Money as always excellent analysis. I tend to agree but I think that Floyd is such a good defensive fighter in the pocket that he will win the first 7-8 rounds and Ortiz will put together some offense as Floyd slows down. Floyd IMO can do what Berto did while not getting hit anywhere near as often.

Sent from RedskinNation.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Ortiz' aggression and exuberance will cause him to get caught slipping and dropped at least once.

Berto countered him way too often and Berto has power.

PBF's a surgeon. He'll be picking him apart late in the fight.

I think Ortiz will use his strength to bully PBF through the early rounds and will be able to steal a few rounds.

As a PBF fan, this fight worries me. Not that I think he'll lose but I think Sugar Shane popping him isn't forgotten by anybody.

[iLLmatic]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Ortiz will have to catch Floyd with a punch similar to what Mosely hit him with to have a shot. He wont out box FM, he will have to land 1 shot and take him out otherwise, no dice for Ortiz. If it's close, it's because FM wants control the pace and outclass him in the later rounds.

And too much is being put on the 16 month lay off. It's a factor but a small one because FM stays in shape. He doesn't go up in weight and he stays training even when he's not fighting. I know that nothing substitutes for the fight experience, but because he stays in fighting shape, there is no intense training he has to do to make weight, starving himself and having to dehydrate himself for the fight.

I have family in LV and they've said that its very common to see FM running on a random Tuesday night or working out at his gym with NO fights scheduled. For all the big mouth talking he does, and yes, he is a big mouth, he stays ready and this Ortiz fight is easy work.

[iLLmatic]

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Ortiz' aggression and exuberance will cause him to get caught slipping and dropped at least once.

Berto countered him way too often and Berto has power.

PBF's a surgeon. He'll be picking him apart late in the fight.

I think Ortiz will use his strength to bully PBF through the early rounds and will be able to steal a few rounds.

As a PBF fan, this fight worries me. Not that I think he'll lose but I think Sugar Shane popping him isn't forgotten by anybody.

Easy work bumrush. The 24/7 has people thinking Ortiz is better than he is. Berto is about 1/3 the fighter FM is and Berto dropped Ortiz but couldn't finish him. FM won't make that same mistake if put in the same position.

Ortiz will come out trying too hard to be aggressive and apply pressure and FM knows this and will weather the storm and put a beating on him as Ortiz will be relegated to looking for the one big shot to land that won't be there after the bully tactics fall by the wayside like they did when Gatti and Hatton fought FM.

This is a statement fight for FM that leads to more $$$ in a Pac Man fight. He knows what's riding on this fight and we all know that the one thing FM doesn't joke around with is an opportunity to get more money which is what the Pac fight is.