FIGHTER: “I INJECTED MANNY PACQUIAO WITH STEROIDS”

[Money99]

Re: FIGHTER: “I INJECTED MANNY PACQUIAO WITH STEROIDS”

A Filipino ratting Manny out is basically signing off on his deathwish. Of course it would be unnamed.

Bogus or not, just give up the blood.

It's funny how both Pac and Roach say they didn't have one Filipino in training camp for those fights. I'm sure fellow sparring partners will say the same.

Mayweather's an idiot. How many times does he tell his fans to not believe the BS out there and yet he tweets this trash without finding out any evidence.
The boxing community is a close-knit circle. Surely he could have made 1 or 2 phone calls and found out if Manny had a Filipino in his training camp?

[MrMars]

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It is unfortunate that we live in a society that, for the most part, believes in the "Where there is smoke..." idea. However, it would not surprise me at all if this is some sort of smear campaign put out by PBF in order to sway the public belief that he has reservations about facing Pacquiao.

If those two fought I don't believe Pacquiao would hit him very often, but when he did PBF might just go night-night. Therefore he needs someway to rattle him, get to him mentally, so he is not totally on his game, then he increases the chances he can just outbox him for the decision.

There is no way PBF is not going to allow this fight to happen at some point in the near future. There's just too much money involved. So now PBF is trying to create a public sentiment and outcry to force Pacquiao to meet PBF's terms just to not appear to be suspect.

Lastly, Shane should just be thankful for the caliber of girlfriend he has, and I'm sure she will do a good job spending up the money he got for fighting Pacquiao in the first place. Mickey says "Women weaken legs." This bee + eye + see + tea + aitch probably weakened his back along with his legs.

MrMars

[acarrero]

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We don't need no source, the fact that Pacquiao refuses to take the best drug tests says it all. Don't be naive. Of course he's on steroids or some other kind of PED. How else do you go up from 106 to 147 in dominating fashion as you go up? Never been done before, and the way he's doing it! I learned my lesson when I saw Sosa going for 66 HRs, Bonds with 75, Clemens winning several Cy Youngs so late in his career, etc. The Pacquiao story is more obvious than any of these.

Btw, Cotto should have all his losses vacated from his record!!

[JerzeyReign]

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Mayweather's an idiot. How many times does he tell his fans to not believe the BS out there and yet he tweets this trash without finding out any evidence.
The boxing community is a close-knit circle. Surely he could have made 1 or 2 phone calls and found out if Manny had a Filipino in his training camp?

First, Mayweather didn't tweet this... Mosley did. Second, PBF has said to have received emails from PacMan's camp concerning about PacMan's steroid use. Third, PacMan threw away MILLIONS over a simple little drug test.

I understand PacMan's the face of boxing but come on now, that just doesn't add up. No matter who side of the argument your on.

PacMan has been pretty much unstoppable ever since he moved up in weight and he's known for 'unbelievable' power more than anything. Moved up and now has indestructible power 'out of nowhere'.

[pietasterp]

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It is unfortunate that we live in a society that, for the most part, believes in the "Where there is smoke..." idea.

Yes, but it's not for lack of good intentions...the fact is that we have been duped for the better part of the last 2 decades by juiced athletes, and almost all of the athletes who have been implicated or outright accused of using PED's have subsequently been proven (or at least, the preponderance of evidence has strongly suggested) to be using. We all started believing in innocent-until-proven-guilty, but at some point, the weight of reality and mounting evidence suggests that logical people have to start being increasingly skeptical.

I have no idea if Pac-man is on the juice, but the fact that it wouldn't surprise anyone if he were is testament to how rampant the issue is in professional sports. Honestly, at this point, given that there are (admittedly primitive) tests that can identify major PEDs, you are guilty until proven innocent if you refuse to be tested.

[RumbleCard]

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We don't need no source, the fact that Pacquiao refuses to take the best drug tests says it all. Don't be naive. Of course he's on steroids or some other kind of PED. How else do you go up from 106 to 147 in dominating fashion as you go up? Never been done before, and the way he's doing it! I learned my lesson when I saw Sosa going for 66 HRs, Bonds with 75, Clemens winning several Cy Youngs so late in his career, etc. The Pacquiao story is more obvious than any of these.

Btw, Cotto should have all his losses vacated from his record!!

The reality is that once it was all said and done. Pac, the second time around, finally broke down and agreed to take PBF's style of testing. PBF still didn't sign on the dotted line and subsequently pushed off from his 14 day stance to something else. As soon as PBF got what he wanted he simply moved the goal posts back again.

All this after pac also agreed to third party mediation in which pac agreed to conform to whatever that outcome would be. PBF refused.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...drug-test.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

[NYG_Meth]

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The reality is that once it was all said and done. Pac, the second time around, finally broke down and agreed to take PBF's style of testing. PBF still didn't sign on the dotted line and subsequently pushed off from his 14 day stance to something else. As soon as PBF got what he wanted he simply moved the goal posts back again.

All this after pac also agreed to third party mediation in which pac agreed to conform to whatever that outcome would be. PBF refused.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...drug-test.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

Thank you. I was getting annoyed at the post that prompted your response lol.

[Kanobi]

Re: FIGHTER: “I INJECTED MANNY PACQUIAO WITH STEROIDS”

The reality is that once it was all said and done. Pac, the second time around, finally broke down and agreed to take PBF's style of testing. PBF still didn't sign on the dotted line and subsequently pushed off from his 14 day stance to something else. As soon as PBF got what he wanted he simply moved the goal posts back again.

All this after pac also agreed to third party mediation in which pac agreed to conform to whatever that outcome would be. PBF refused.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...drug-test.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

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[BOSsTOwN]

Re: FIGHTER: “I INJECTED MANNY PACQUIAO WITH STEROIDS”

if your familiar with his career you wouldn't be surprised if he was using hgh.

[NYG_Meth]

Re: FIGHTER: “I INJECTED MANNY PACQUIAO WITH STEROIDS”

if your familiar with his career you wouldn't be surprised if he was using hgh.

Care to elaborate?

[RockinDaMike]

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If he was taking steroids why would his sparring partner do it??? What's next his sparring partner is going to share his diet and training schedule??

"Hey, I just kicked your ***, now go ahead and shoot my *** now"

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: FIGHTER: “I INJECTED MANNY PACQUIAO WITH STEROIDS”

The reality is that once it was all said and done. Pac, the second time around, finally broke down and agreed to take PBF's style of testing. PBF still didn't sign on the dotted line and subsequently pushed off from his 14 day stance to something else. As soon as PBF got what he wanted he simply moved the goal posts back again.

All this after pac also agreed to third party mediation in which pac agreed to conform to whatever that outcome would be. PBF refused.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...drug-test.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

Pac didn't agree to random drug testing. He agreed to a testing window which ranged from 14-30 days before the fight.

[RumbleCard]

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Pac didn't agree to random drug testing. He agreed to a testing window which ranged from 14-30 days before the fight.

He asked for Olympic style testing with the probability that blood would be drawn up to the 14th day prior to the fight. Pac ultimately agreed. I'm not sure what your argument is based on.

Even if there was a sticking point or an issue with "random/scheduled" That still doesn't account for the failed mediation which PBF refused to accept.

PBF doesn't own the league. Period. He doesn't get to play spoiled brat whenever he pleases. The style of drug testing is really irrelevant to me because Pac flat out agreed to third party mediation. That ultimately settled it for me. He was willing to compromise and accept whatever the outcome would be. He wanted the fight and as one of the best fighters in the world it's certainly reasonable that he shouldn't just lay down for whatever PBF wanted or demanded. The solution, rooted in reason and common sense, was to have a third unaffiliated party bring the two sides together. Even before a deal was on the table by that mediator Pac agreed. There's no denying this.

All PBF is doing is drawing a line in the sand and subsequently moving it back when it doesn't fit the mold of his argument.

[game20ver]

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He asked for Olympic style testing with the probability that blood would be drawn up to the 14th day prior to the fight. Pac ultimately agreed. I'm not sure what your argument is based on.

Even if there was a sticking point or an issue with "random/scheduled" That still doesn't account for the failed mediation which PBF refused to accept.

PBF doesn't own the league. Period. He doesn't get to play spoiled brat whenever he pleases. The style of drug testing is really irrelevant to me because Pac flat out agreed to third party mediation. That ultimately settled it for me. He was willing to compromise and accept whatever the outcome would be. He wanted the fight and as one of the best fighters in the world it's certainly reasonable that he shouldn't just lay down for whatever PBF wanted or demanded. The solution, rooted in reason and common sense, was to have a third unaffiliated party bring the two sides together. Even before a deal was on the table by that mediator Pac agreed. There's no denying this.

All PBF is doing is drawing a line in the sand and subsequently moving it back when it doesn't fit the mold of his argument.

Floyd has asked for the same test under the same conditions from day 1. How is he moving the line back? He gave into EVERY demand of Pacquiao's.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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If he was taking steroids why would his sparring partner do it??? What's next his sparring partner is going to share his diet and training schedule??

"Hey, I just kicked your ***, now go ahead and shoot my *** now"

Exactly. If Manny was taking shots he wouldn't be getting some no name sparring partner to do it.