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  • pietasterp
    All Star
    • Feb 2004
    • 6237

    #5041
    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

    Originally posted by JayBee74
    Wow, that was worth $70!!
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    #1 reason why it's almost never worth it to purchase a fight. A lesson I learned after Tyson-Holyfield 2 many years ago...

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    • pk500
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 8062

      #5042
      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

      Originally posted by JayBee74
      Didn't see the fight but my guess is that he quit.

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      Quit or not, Hunter was right to ask the question. And I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if he decided to end it, not Khan, because Khan was getting pummeled.

      This fight bore out my new policy regarding boxing PPVs: If the fight is not a 60/40 or 50/50 fight on paper, then I will not spend money on it. Showtime, ESPN+ and DAZN already are getting enough of my money per month for boxing. I'm not paying for the privilege of seeing a match for which we already know the outcome before the opening bell.

      Crawford-Khan was a 95/5 fight on paper, and it was a 100/0 fight in the ring. I'm glad I didn't pay for it. Found a good stream on Periscope, watched it to admire Bud's abundant talent and snicker at the fools who spent $75 on a card with horrible mismatches from top to bottom.
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      • pietasterp
        All Star
        • Feb 2004
        • 6237

        #5043
        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

        I'd be interested on the buy numbers/profitability of that Crawford-Khan "fight", but if they made any money at all (and I'm sure they did), it's a horrible precedent going forward. Obvious mis-match of a main event in a fight that absolutely had no business occurring in the first place, with a string of poor undercard bouts, for $75. I'd blame the promoters and the biz, but if they're able to make money doing this, hard to argue with their approach....

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        • pk500
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 8062

          #5044
          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

          Originally posted by pietasterp
          I'd be interested on the buy numbers/profitability of that Crawford-Khan "fight", but if they made any money at all (and I'm sure they did), it's a horrible precedent going forward. Obvious mis-match of a main event in a fight that absolutely had no business occurring in the first place, with a string of poor undercard bouts, for $75. I'd blame the promoters and the biz, but if they're able to make money doing this, hard to argue with their approach....
          The only argument about the approach is boxing's continued disregard for its fans. There may be no more loyal fanbase in all of sports. If almost any other sport treated its fans with this much disregard, those fans would flee by the ship load.
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          • pietasterp
            All Star
            • Feb 2004
            • 6237

            #5045
            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

            GGG and Abel Sanchez are Splitsville.




            Abel Sanchez dismissing with the niceties and putting GGG on blast. Juicy.

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            • JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

              #5046
              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

              Originally posted by pietasterp
              GGG and Abel Sanchez are Splitsville.




              Abel Sanchez dismissing with the niceties and putting GGG on blast. Juicy.
              That's what led to Ray Leonard and Angelo Dundee splitting up. Dundee initially made a hefty 15% of Sugar's purses but generously released Ray from that contract with two years left when he started making millions. For the Hagler fight, he worked without a contract and made $150,000 which came out to 1.2% of Ray's take ($12 million). When he insisted on a contract for the Lalonde light heavyweight championship fight Leonard got upset that he wouldn't take whatever he was offered and that was it for the union.

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              • JayBee74
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 22989

                #5047
                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                Wow, getting 7-2 on Jacobs?

                Although I think Canelo will win it's quite a challenge early in his DAZN career.

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                • edaddy
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2848

                  #5048
                  Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by pietasterp
                  I'd be interested on the buy numbers/profitability of that Crawford-Khan "fight", but if they made any money at all (and I'm sure they did), it's a horrible precedent going forward. Obvious mis-match of a main event in a fight that absolutely had no business occurring in the first place, with a string of poor under card bouts, for $75. I'd blame the promoters and the biz, but if they're able to make money doing this, hard to argue with their approach....
                  150k PPv buys for Crawford-Khan which is horrible. I am encouraged because fans voted with their wallet but I am also dissapointed that Crawford wasn't showcased on TV as this would have been an ideal natural buildup for an eventual fight with Spence. He just isn't a fighter at this point that can carry a PPV card with a lackluster opponent. This was an obvious money grab and it was destined to fail because Khan doesn't have the fan base that he used to have which I am sure Arum banked on. You combine that with a horrendous undercard and you have the ingredients for a fail. I am actually surprised they fleeced 150k buyers. Boxing has an opportunity to showcase, showcase, and showcase, the money will come if the sport is properly promoted and fans respected.
                  THANKS FOR THE TRADE SANDIEGO KEEP RIVERS WE'LL TAKE ELI

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                  • JayBee74
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 22989

                    #5049
                    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by edaddy
                    This was an obvious money grab and it was destined to fail because Khan doesn't have the fan base that he used to have which I am sure Arum banked on.
                    Yeah even Sky Sports set this one out.

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                    • pk500
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8062

                      #5050
                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      Let's also be honest about Bud Crawford's name recognition: Nobody outside of the boxing hardcores has a clue who he is. Top Rank has done a very lousy job with his PR, and Bud doesn't help because he is quiet and would prefer to let his fighting do the talking.

                      Bud is No. 1 or 2 on every pound-for-pound list. But if a list of boxing name recognition was made, Bud wouldn't even crack the top 10. Meanwhile, complete azzclowns like Broner and Tank Davis would be on that list.
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                      • JayBee74
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 22989

                        #5051
                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by pk500
                        Meanwhile, complete azzclowns like Broner and Tank Davis would be on that list.
                        PK!! You're rough on Tank for lumping him in with Broner!!

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                        • pk500
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 8062

                          #5052
                          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by JayBee74
                          PK!! You're rough on Tank for lumping him in with Broner!!
                          Why? They're very similar. Both protected and coddled by the sanctioning bodies and their promoters. Both sh*theels as people. Both overrated as fighters.
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                          • pietasterp
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6237

                            #5053
                            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by pk500
                            Let's also be honest about Bud Crawford's name recognition: Nobody outside of the boxing hardcores has a clue who he is. Top Rank has done a very lousy job with his PR, and Bud doesn't help because he is quiet and would prefer to let his fighting do the talking.

                            Bud is No. 1 or 2 on every pound-for-pound list. But if a list of boxing name recognition was made, Bud wouldn't even crack the top 10. Meanwhile, complete azzclowns like Broner and Tank Davis would be on that list.
                            A buddy of mine was in Omaha, Nebraska for a work meeting, and he told me he was chilling out at the pool of his hotel when a small camera crew and "some boxer" started working out right next to him, which he was mildly annoyed by. So he moved to another area and was telling me the guy looked like he was some kind of big deal but couldn't remember his name, until I guessed the obvious and he confirmed that it was Crawford. I should mention my buddy is a pretty average sports fan and follows a few teams relatively closely.

                            That's the kind of name/face recognition Terence Crawford has.

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                            • JayBee74
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22989

                              #5054
                              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by pk500
                              Why? They're very similar. Both protected and coddled by the sanctioning bodies and their promoters. Both sh*theels as people. Both overrated as fighters.
                              You make some points although I'm still not there on Tank's talent but is anyone at Broner's sh*theels level?

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                              • pk500
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 8062

                                #5055
                                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by JayBee74
                                You make some points although I'm still not there on Tank's talent but is anyone at Broner's sh*theels level?
                                No. Broner is in a class by himself right now in boxing.

                                Edwin Valero was worse in the last 15 years -- hell, he murdered his WIFE. But he's dead, so Broner is the king of the sh*theel hill now.

                                I have no sympathy for Valero. But Pacquiao-Valero at 135 or 140 is one of the greatest matchups of the last 20 years that sadly never took place in boxing. That fight would have looked like a joust between dueling eggbeaters -- punches in bunches flying from every possible angle from both men.
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