Boxing Off-Topic

[aholbert32]

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If Conor loses a one sided decision to Floyd but survives do you think he goes back to MMA?

LOL, the better question is if makes $100 million dollars for this fight would he go back to MMA? Couldn't he go into acting, like take over the Roadhouse remake that Rousey was supposed to do?

100%

The guy is 29. We have no idea if Conor can act. We have no idea if he is interested in acting. There are 25-30 mil paydays in the UFC and the potential to get an ownership piece of the UFC. Other than Canelo, there isnt anyone else in Boxing who could generate a 100 (or even a 50 mil) payday for Conor and if he loses a one sided decision, fans wont be clamoring to see him back in the boxing ring.

The only way he doesnt come back to MMA is if he KOs Floyd.

[aholbert32]

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Does Conor hurt opponents a lot with his kicks to soften them up for his "hand strikes"?

He uses kicks for distance and some body work. He also uses them as a flashy distraction to land punches. Every KO he's had in the UFC has been from punches. 70-75% of Conor's strikes are from punches.

[JayBee74]

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The guy is 29. We have no idea if Conor can act. We have no idea if he is interested in acting.

Yeah, even Tom Laughlin had the Gary Cooper thing going so you can't just:

[bigeastbumrush]

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Mayweather and McGregor will square off Saturday night at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Early Thursday morning during an interview with MMAFighting.com, Mayweather laid out claims of McGregor’s cheating, though he tried to sufficiently insulate himself from being the accuser.
“From what I was told, I’ve been doing my homework and I’ve been hearing a lot about he’s been getting IV bags,” Mayweather said. “I don’t know if it’s true. I’m just saying rumors. I heard he got like seven IV bags, and with the Nevada commission, that’s illegal. That’s what I was told. I don’t know if it’s true.”
When pushed on the validity of his source, he responded, “A strong source, yes.”
Mayweather also used one IV bag before a previous fight because he was dehydrated. Saying that McGregor is going to extreme measures with IV bags is connected to Mayweather’s other claim from the same interview — that the MMA star is struggling to make weight.

Both fighters have to weigh no more than 154 pounds for the fight.

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[pk500]

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Nate Diaz has arguably the best chin in MMA. 22 UFC bouts with 3/4 against TOP UFC fighters. KO's once and that was because of head kick. The only person to consistently hurt him was Conor. ****, only two people have even knocked Nate down and one of them was Conor. Conor also did that 6 times between the two fights.

Floyd's chin isnt the main reason he survives. Its because he doesnt get hit. Nate does. So talking about Conor's power doesnt really work by comparing the two.

True. But Mayweather has a deceptively good chin. Shane Mosley rocked him in the second round of their bout with a shot that is as heavy as anything McGregor will throw Saturday night, and Mayweather stayed upright and rallied with ease starting in the third round.

Yes, Mosley is smaller than McGregor. But his punching technique was far more compact and direct, so I would guess his power is equal to McGregor's.

Canelo Alvarez is just as powerful as McGregor, and he couldn't touch Mayweather. So the idea that McGregor will "catch" Mayweather is daffy.

[pk500]

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You can explain better than me why MMA fighters drop so much once hit. I have my theories.

One fact, not a theory: Their footwork for absorbing blows is inferior compared to a boxer's because they fight much more square, preparing for kicks and ground attacks.

I also wonder how much neck strengthening the average MMA fighter does in preparation for a bout because they must concentrate on so many forms of combat, unlike a boxer.

One of the reasons Mayweather has a deceptively good chin is because he trains it. I don't think I've ever seen a "24/7" with Mayweather where you don't see him at least once wearing the head harness with a weight plate tethered to it, strengthening his neck muscles.

There's also a reason many boxers chew gum. That strengthens the jaw and facial muscles a little bit, and every bit counts. Seriously. Maybe MMA fighters do the same.

[pk500]

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If Conor loses a one sided decision to Floyd but survives do you think he goes back to MMA?

LOL, the better question is if makes $100 million dollars for this fight would he go back to MMA? Couldn't he go into acting, like take over the Roadhouse remake that Rousey was supposed to do?

It depends on what fights are presented to him in both sports. He will make more money in an elite boxing match than an elite MMA match because White doesn't pay his fighters what they're worth.

McGregor-Diaz 3 would be a big-money fight for Notorious. But McGregor vs. the loser of Canelo-GGG also would be big bucks. If McGregor pulls the upset of the century Saturday night, he will make more money fighting the winner of Canelo-GGG than he would in any MMA fight.

[sheredia]

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it will be interesting how much respect (if any) floyd gives conor in the ring on saturday night....he is not and will never be a go for broke type of fighter. it's in his nature to fight cautiously. i think we all know conor will not give floyd any respect and go right after him. what we don't know is the manner in which he will do it, as well as how much he will be able to absorb floyd's punches. i guess anything can happen, so it is possible floyd maybe hurts a hand or somehow gets rocked by conor. it's also possible floyd hurts conor with a punch he doesn't see coming and ends it early. we know pretty much what floyd is going to do, we just don't know what conor has up his sleeve.

[aholbert32]

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It depends on what fights are presented to him in both sports. He will make more money in an elite boxing match than an elite MMA match because White doesn't pay his fighters what they're worth.

McGregor-Diaz 3 would be a big-money fight for Notorious. But McGregor vs. the loser of Canelo-GGG also would be big bucks. If McGregor pulls the upset of the century Saturday night, he will make more money fighting the winner of Canelo-GGG than he would in any MMA fight.

If Conor beat Floyd, he would make more money fighting any top WW or Junior MW than any UFC fight. People would pay to see if he could beat a Canelo/GGG but also a Thurman or Garcia.

White doesnt pay most fighters...but he pays Conor. Conor is bringing in more than any Boxer other than guys like Floyd and Canelo.

[JayBee74]

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If Conor beat Floyd, he would make more money fighting any top WW or Junior MW than any UFC fight. People would pay to see if he could beat a Canelo/GGG but also a Thurman or Garcia.

White doesnt pay most fighters...but he pays Conor. Conor is bringing in more than any Boxer other than guys like Floyd and Canelo.

If Conor pulls off a miracle and has a pro boxing career would White get a cut of those bouts?

[aholbert32]

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If Conor pulls off a miracle and has a pro boxing career would White get a cut of those bouts?

I think for 2 or 3 more fights he would. 20%.

[aholbert32]

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So much for Conor struggling to make weight.

[bigeastbumrush]

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So much for Conor struggling to make weight.

Vegas dehydration

[HealyMonster]

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MCGREGGOR in 6. The double champ does what the f*** he wants

[JayBee74]

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Today Paulie was asked to gauge the power of Conor with 16 oz gloves on and he said "average to above average". Keep in mind this was in comparison to all the sparring sessions (14-16 oz gloves) he's had. That's about a C+ I guess.