Floyd Mayweather Next Opponent ?

[sheredia]

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Floyd is the most predictable fighter on the planet? You should tell that to his opponents because they sure wish that was the case.

predictable doesn't mean beatable...it's just that he does what he does well, but a quick fighter with similar skills and a good defense might have a shot.

[sheredia]

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But what about right now? Hasn't Pacquiao agreed to a 60/40 split and blood testing?

I'm pretty much with Mayweather fan Stephen A. If you're not fighting Pac for whatever reason do your 2 or 3 more fights, and end you career. Just stop with the empty words about giving fans what they want.

Which brings up two interesting questions:

When Pac did a bulldozer job on Oscar-Hatton-Cotto in three consecutive fights did diehard Floyd fans really want their man to fight Pacquiao?

Do those same fans want that fight now?

exactly.....not only that, cotto just destroyed a bigger martinez (albeit injured) and had a tough, close fight with floyd but floyd never wanted a rematch with him. floyd gives maidana one right away, but what about cotto? (who is a MUCH bigger draw than maidana). maybe floyd should go up in weight to challenge cotto for the middleweight title.

[aholbert32]

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exactly.....not only that, cotto just destroyed a bigger martinez (albeit injured) and had a tough, close fight with floyd but floyd never wanted a rematch with him. floyd gives maidana one right away, but what about cotto? (who is a MUCH bigger draw than maidana). maybe floyd should go up in weight to challenge cotto for the middleweight title.

Its not that simple though:

- Floyd doesnt want to fight above 147. He's done it for Oscar, Cotto and Canelo but he prefers to fight at 147. Cotto wont go down to 147 and is fighting at 160.

- Its silly to ask Floyd to move up to weights that his build isnt suited for. He's a welterweight. People have been screaming for years that he should take fights with guys like Martinez and GGG at 154 or 160 which would put him at a huge disadvantage and against guys who carry no real drawing power. Asking Floyd to jump two weight classes is ridiculous.

- Lets not use revisionist history here. No one was demanding a Cotto rematch immediately after the fight. No one. If people were calling for it Floyd wouldve done it because Cotto was a promotional FA at the time (no issues with Arum to worry about) and it wouldve made more money than the Guerrero fight.

- Finally, the reason this fight hasnt taken place is because Floyd doesnt want to work with Bob Arum and Pac is loyal to Arum. He wouldve been a FA after the Rios fight but he decided to reup with Arum for 3 more fights. Floyd is adamant that he wont work with Arum and if he does work with him he wants to dominant the negotiation. Thats why 60/40 isnt good enough for him.

-Maidana only got the rematch because there was no one else. Khan couldnt do it because of Ramadan and every other GB/Haymon welterweight was either unavailable or coming off of a loss.

[N51_rob]

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So theres this......

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11669125/floyd-mayweather-sr-says-fight-floyd-mayweather-jr-manny-pacquiao-happen

[JayBee74]

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Its not that simple though:
- Its silly to ask Floyd to move up to weights that his build isnt suited for. He's a welterweight. People have been screaming for years that he should take fights with guys like Martinez and GGG at 154 or 160 which would put him at a huge disadvantage and against guys who carry no real drawing power. Asking Floyd to jump two weight classes is ridiculous.

I haven't heard too much screaming about it. He fought Canelo at a 152 lbs catch weight. I'd still like to see him fight Thurman, but I don't think he'll take that fight.

[SPRINGS03]

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You make legitimate points about Oscar-Hatton-Cotto, but the public perception (and I think Floyd's perception) at the time was that Manny was a beast. Was he given too much credit ? Definitely. Was Floyd eager to get in the ring with Pac? Definitely not.

But why wouldn't Floyd be eager to fight Pac now? I think he could get a 65%-35% split. I think there is so much bad blood that Floyd doesn't even want to give Pac a chance to beat him.

Why fight Pac to earn a measly $50-$60 million when you can get a rematch with Canelo (does anyone really want to see that fight again?) for $40 million? That's an assumption based on Floyd's first fight with Alvarez.

I think he actually did wanna get in the ring with pac, back in the day. When else would you see floyd accept terms like a smaller ring and smaller gloves? He probably knew it was a lot of money.

Now it's different, i think you're right about there being a lot of bad blood between em'. I feel like now he just dislikes arum and pac so much that it's like an ego thing now. He doesn't want pacquiao to be put on the same pedestal as him, which is why i think he seems obsessed with having everything go his way in negotiations about a fight.

And honestly, i don't know why anyone wants to see a rematch with canelo, i heard steven a smith say that and a cotto fight are the only fights he would watch if floyd isn't fighting pac. That's dumb tho, he easily beat canelo, and maidana gave him a rougher fight than cotto, he had cotto out on his feet in the last round. Hell i'd rather see him fight khan than either of those 2 options honestly.

However, this is a big if. But IF canelo and cotto are supposedly gonna fight on one of mayweathers fight dates, and mayweather wants to compete with that event, considering that i've heard khan might be fighting guerrero next, it's POSSIBLE that he could try and fight pacquiao in may. He did say he had a surprise in may. You can't believe everything mayweather says tho, sometimes he'll try to fake people out with who he's fighting. I remember when at one point he said he was fighting devon alexander and everyone said they didn't wanna see that, then he turned around and fought guerrero.

As for Floyd Sr. saying the pac fight could happen, just recently mayweather disagreed with his dad http://fighthype.com/mayweathernews/story18115.html He also said implied he's not fighting khan, so who knows. This is what i mean tho, he might just be trying to keep it secret about who his next opponent is.

[aholbert32]

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I haven't heard too much screaming about it. He fought Canelo at a 152 lbs catch weight. I'd still like to see him fight Thurman, but I don't think he'll take that fight.

I like Thurman but his biggest win is over Soto Karass. He needs a signature win if you are going to get Mayweather.

[JayBee74]

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I like Thurman but his biggest win is over Soto Karass. He needs a signature win if you are going to get Mayweather.

Thurman's too dangerous and not box office enough for even boxers who aren't Floyd Mayweather.

And honestly, i don't know why anyone wants to see a rematch with canelo, i heard steven a smith say that and a cotto fight are the only fights he would watch if floyd isn't fighting pac. That's dumb tho, he easily beat canelo, and maidana gave him a rougher fight than cotto, he had cotto out on his feet in the last round. Hell i'd rather see him fight khan than either of those 2 options honestly.

Canelo fight doesn't even interest me. I think Stephen A. just started running off at the mouth and couldn't stop himself. Cotto's resurgence with Roach and his convincing victory over Sergio give him some standing for a rematch with Floyd.

[sheredia]

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Thurman's too dangerous and not box office enough for even boxers who aren't Floyd Mayweather.



Canelo fight doesn't even interest me. I think Stephen A. just started running off at the mouth and couldn't stop himself. Cotto's resurgence with Roach and his convincing victory over Sergio give him some standing for a rematch with Floyd.

i agree....but let's face the facts. floyd's fights are hand picked. he usually only faces opponents he where he has a clear speed advantage. the only fighter i could think of similar to his speed level was judah. if you watch that fight, judah was tagging him a few times and this was floyd in his prime. with discipline, defense and a top trainer, who knows what judah could have done. there is only one other fighter right now close to floyd's speed level, and we all know who that is.....manny, and floyd's been avoiding him like the plague. the bottom line is.....boxing NEEDS this fight to save the sport. if floyd wants to save boxing, he will give the fans this fight.

[N51_rob]

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i agree....but let's face the facts. floyd's fights are hand picked. he usually only faces opponents he where he has a clear speed advantage. the only fighter i could think of similar to his speed level was judah. if you watch that fight, judah was tagging him a few times and this was floyd in his prime. with discipline, defense and a top trainer, who knows what judah could have done. there is only one other fighter right now close to floyd's speed level, and we all know who that is.....manny, and floyd's been avoiding him like the plague. the bottom line is.....boxing NEEDS this fight to save the sport. if floyd wants to save boxing, he will give the fans this fight.

Khan is faster than Manny and given his chin. Fact of the matter is Floyd is gonna have a speed advantage over most fighters. The Juddah fight was over after the 5 round as Floyd was starting to outclass him. This Manny fight should've happened years ago, but didn't for a plethora of reasons.


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[sheredia]

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Khan is faster than Manny and given his chin. Fact of the matter is Floyd is gonna have a speed advantage over most fighters. The Juddah fight was over after the 5 round as Floyd was starting to outclass him. This Manny fight should've happened years ago, but didn't for a plethora of reasons.


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khan's maybe a little faster....but that chin is suspect. true dat, floyd will have speed over most fighters, but someone with some speed, good defense and good counterpunching could pose some problems. de la hoya came the closest to solving the puzzle with that great jab and constant pressure, but he forgot about the jab and faded toward the end of the fight. still wondering why there was never a rematch.

[JayBee74]

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....boxing NEEDS this fight to save the sport. if floyd wants to save boxing, he will give the fans this fight.

Boxing gets some action. There are plenty of fights around, plenty of networks willing to pay for those fights.

If it does need saving I'm not sure how this fight would do it.

[N51_rob]

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khan's maybe a little faster....but that chin is suspect. true dat, floyd will have speed over most fighters, but someone with some speed, good defense and good counterpunching could pose some problems. de la hoya came the closest to solving the puzzle with that great jab and constant pressure, but he forgot about the jab and faded toward the end of the fight. still wondering why there was never a rematch.

Ummm Khan is way faster than Manny right now. Keith Thurman is the most dangerous fighter to Floyd 0 in boxing IMO, but he isn't ready and too much of a commodity to put in there.

Floyd would probably KO Khan truth be told but he is as fast if not faster with his hands.

I'm in the camp that never thought Manny could/would beat Floyd and at this stage it's not even worth arguing but I would still like to see the fight because it will being casuals and make a boatload.

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[JayBee74]

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Big 147 test for Khan in December against Devon Alexander. I'm not sure he'll pass.

de la hoya came the closest to solving the puzzle with that great jab and constant pressure, but he forgot about the jab and faded toward the end of the fight. still wondering why there was never a rematch.

They don't like each other. Floyd wasn't going to give Oscar a remote chance of beating him and I don't think Oscar thought he could win a rematch.

[N51_rob]

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Big 147 test for Khan in December against Devon Alexander. I'm not sure he'll pass.

Agree that should be a fun fight.


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