Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

[JayBee74]

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yup styles makes fight, like Maidana gave Floyd a run for his money, I think Pac destroys Maidana, Marquez gave Pac problems and Floyd dominated Marquez. Marquez knocked Pac out, Floyd didnt. its going to be a epic fight.

I hope you're right.

[fistofrage]

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My only problem with that is, wasn't Floyd kind of shamed into taking this fight?At the outset of a potential matchup it was the drug testing, and for the last three years it was "Man, Marquez knocked you out". Finally Manny's media onslaught gave Mayweather no other option.

I would be mildly surprised if Floyd loses but the psychological advantage belongs to Pacquiao.

I think Floyd is doing it because he feels he needs the fight to happen to make his resume complete. There would always be talk about Floyd never fighting Pac, because there are a lot of people me included who think Floyd ducked Pac during their prime. Now Floyd has him right where he needs him. Pac has lost Pop and some speed. But mainly the KO ability. When PAC was t his prime, there was a decent chance I think he could have caught Floyd based on his speed and power. Now, I don't think Floyd has anything to worry about.

I hope the fight is epic. I hope they each taste the canvas. Nothing I'd like better than to see an all out war, but I think more people will be closer to nodding off than jumping out of their chair on this one.

[aholbert32]

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My only problem with that is, wasn't Floyd kind of shamed into taking this fight?At the outset of a potential matchup it was the drug testing, and for the last three years it was "Man, Marquez knocked you out". Finally Manny's media onslaught gave Mayweather no other option.

I would be mildly surprised if Floyd loses but the psychological advantage belongs to Pacquiao.

I dont think Floyd was shamed into taking the fight. His PPV earnings were dropping and the other potential fighters (Khan and Thurman) arent big enough draws to generate PPV revenue.

Also Showtime arguably lost money on the Guerrero and two Maidana fights so they pressured him to get it done.

[JayBee74]

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I dont think Floyd was shamed into taking the fight. His PPV earnings were dropping and the other potential fighters (Khan and Thurman) arent big enough draws to generate PPV revenue.

Also Showtime arguably lost money on the Guerrero and two Maidana fights so they pressured him to get it done.

I did say "kind of shamed". All speculation on my part. It could be as simple as Floyd knowing this fight was eventually going to happen, and he was putting it off as long as he could. He really didn't want this fight.

It happens...Leonard didn't want Duran, Tyson didn't want Foreman, Cotto doesn't want GGG.....

[steelcityjames]

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both fighters have the perfect style to beat each other. it's going to come down to who is able to execute better and maintain the execution over 12 rounds.....

[SPRINGS03]

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I think Floyd is doing it because he feels he needs the fight to happen to make his resume complete. There would always be talk about Floyd never fighting Pac, because there are a lot of people me included who think Floyd ducked Pac during their prime. Now Floyd has him right where he needs him. Pac has lost Pop and some speed. But mainly the KO ability. When PAC was t his prime, there was a decent chance I think he could have caught Floyd based on his speed and power. Now, I don't think Floyd has anything to worry about.

I hope the fight is epic. I hope they each taste the canvas. Nothing I'd like better than to see an all out war, but I think more people will be closer to nodding off than jumping out of their chair on this one.

That's kind of a copout tho, floyd is OLDER than pac, people forget this. And people(freddy roach included) have been saying that floyd looks a step slower and is losing his legs. Now people are looking for excuses for pacquiao to lose. It's not like floyd gets younger as pacquiao ages.

Pacquiao has never been just a one punch knockout guy anyway, his stoppages come from accumulation of damage, not one punch. Mosley was a harder hitter than him, and floyd ate his best shot. Not to mention, pacquiao has ALWAYS had trouble with fighters who move and don't stand right in front of him. I think whoever wins this fight should get props for it.

Both sides have made the fight difficult(as far as coming to an agreement), but people tend to forget that pacquiao turned down a 50/50 fight in their prime over a blood test. But now he's ok with random blood testing. I think floyd would of dominated pacquiao in his prime(when floyd was faster just like pacquiao was), just like he will now.

[JayBee74]

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Pacquiao has never been just a one punch knockout guy anyway, his stoppages come from accumulation of damage, not one punch. Mosley was a harder hitter than him, and floyd ate his best shot.

Bradley said that Pac has the best combination of speed AND power of anyone he has faced. He comments on every punch Manny throws is "fast and hard", unlike most boxers where the first punch of a combo is the most powerful. Should be a unique problem for Floyd to deal with. This could be a very interesting fight.

EDIT: It's almost like Floyd has to deal with a human buzzsaw.

Current KO odds:

Mayweather win by KO, TKO or Disqualification: 5.5-1
Pacquiao win by KO, TKO or Disqualification: 4-1

[fistofrage]

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That's kind of a copout tho, floyd is OLDER than pac, people forget this. And people(freddy roach included) have been saying that floyd looks a step slower and is losing his legs. Now people are looking for excuses for pacquiao to lose. It's not like floyd gets younger as pacquiao ages.

Pacquiao has never been just a one punch knockout guy anyway, his stoppages come from accumulation of damage, not one punch. Mosley was a harder hitter than him, and floyd ate his best shot. Not to mention, pacquiao has ALWAYS had trouble with fighters who move and don't stand right in front of him. I think whoever wins this fight should get props for it.

Both sides have made the fight difficult(as far as coming to an agreement), but people tend to forget that pacquiao turned down a 50/50 fight in their prime over a blood test. But now he's ok with random blood testing. I think floyd would of dominated pacquiao in his prime(when floyd was faster just like pacquiao was), just like he will now.

And Christie Brinkley is older than Pam Anderson, look at George Foreman and Hopkins fighting at a high level into their 40's. Not a copout in any means. People age differently. Floyd is taking this fight when its right for Floyd. PAC needs the cash now he may have been doping before. PAC has always had more to gain by taking the fight than Floyd. Floyd values that record more than anything. He's not going to put I in jeopardy this late in his career.

[SPRINGS03]

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Bradley said that Pac has the best combination of speed AND power of anyone he has faced. He comments on every punch Manny throws is "fast and hard", unlike most boxers where the first punch of a combo is the most powerful. Should be a unique problem for Floyd to deal with. This could be a very interesting fight.

EDIT: It's almost like Floyd has to deal with a human buzzsaw.

Current KO odds:

Mayweather win by KO, TKO or Disqualification: 5.5-1
Pacquiao win by KO, TKO or Disqualification: 4-1

I believe he throws extremely fast and has some good pop, i just don't think he's ever been a one punch ko kinda guy(except hatton). Also, oscar de la hoya has said mayweather and pacquiaos punching power felt the same to him, it's just that manny throws more combos, mosley also said something similar i believe. I still think mayweather will beat him, but i'm curious to see how and what tools he'll use to do it, i think he might surprise some people and try walking him down, pacquiao isn't as good fighting going backwards.

And people age differently, but they still age. I'm just saying that based on roach and pacquiaos camp, they make it sound like mayweather isn't nearly as sharp and it's a good opportunity for them as well. Also, i don't think you can can call it ducking if you yourself think pacquiao may of been doping, is asking for a blood test to be on an even playing field really ducking in that case?

[fistofrage]

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I believe he throws extremely fast and has some good pop, i just don't think he's ever been a one punch ko kinda guy(except hatton). Also, oscar de la hoya has said mayweather and pacquiaos punching power felt the same to him, it's just that manny throws more combos, mosley also said something similar i believe. I still think mayweather will beat him, but i'm curious to see how and what tools he'll use to do it, i think he might surprise some people and try walking him down, pacquiao isn't as good fighting going backwards.

And people age differently, but they still age. I'm just saying that based on roach and pacquiaos camp, they make it sound like mayweather isn't nearly as sharp and it's a good opportunity for them as well. Also, i don't think you can can call it ducking if you yourself think pacquiao may of been doping, is asking for a blood test to be on an even playing field really ducking in that case?

IMO Floyd had every right to ask for a blood test, but he was trying to make it as inconvenient as possible for PAC. I'm pretty sure at their prime, PAC had something to hide and Floyd wasn't going to take that fight. Glad it's finally happening, but its about 3 years too late.

As far as Floyds strategy, you may be right he may walk him down, Floyd is much bigger. We'll find out real fast if Pac thinks he can throw without being countered. I expect to see a hesitant PAC and a typical Floyd fight where he keeps punches per round around 40 and cruises to an easy boring victory.

[JayBee74]

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Also, i don't think you can can call it ducking if you yourself think pacquiao may of been doping, is asking for a blood test to be on an even playing field really ducking in that case?

No, I don't blame him for that. But the blood testing gets complicated. Had Pac ever testing positive for doping? No. What were the actually concerns for Pac in regards to blood testing? He felt it weakened him. He agreed to blood testing before the press conference (not sure what press conference) and AFTER the fight. What objection did Mayweather had to blood testing immediately after the fight?

That's all in the past. Nobody is ducking anybody right now.

[JayBee74]

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Good footage of young Floyd being trained by his Dad, Katie Couric at the gym readying for an interview, and something I forgot-Floyd getting robbed in the '96 Olympics.

[Swamp Swagger]

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I heard PPV is gonna cost around $100

Is that true? Man it's probably worth but that seems like a lot for one fight.....

[SPRINGS03]

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^yeah i think it's 100$ for hd and 90 for sd.

[gmac0322]

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There is nothing more comical than the Mike and Mike show acting like they watch boxing. Claiming that there hasnt been a big fight since Lewis Tyson. Just a joke. There has been plenty of great fights since then. Also listening to PTI acting like they always watch boxing. ESPN is a joke