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  • fistofrage
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13682

    #121
    Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

    Originally posted by JayBee74
    Wow, they waited 9 days before the fight to get that straight?
    Not that I would drop that kind of cash on a fight ticket anyway, but I'd be ticked off if I had to wait this long to be sure the fight was on and tickets were available before I could purchase my airfare. That said, I doubt there will be very many common folk in attendance. I think most of the tickets stayed in the Mayweather camp and the rest went to celebrities.
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    • Law504
      Rookie
      • Jul 2012
      • 400

      #122
      Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

      Originally posted by JayBee74
      I know you're betting money on this fight but I still think Pac should be higher than an 8-5 underdog. At least 5-2. I know you're probably not putting anything on Pac winning by KO (TKO or disqualification), but they're only giving 4-1 odds on him stopping Mayweather? I would have expected that to be 7-1 or 8-1. Sure, some of these numbers reflect fan based dollars, but there's a lot of investment bucks here too. Hmmmm...
      I have alot money riding on Pac, I have never bet against Floyd Mayweather ever, but I just have a feeling Roach and Pac will put together a gameplan that will confuse Mayweather.

      Mayweather is one of the smarter boxer ever and if I was Roach I would change my gameplan every 2 rds

      rds 1-2 : box Mayweather, use faints throw 2-3 punch combos, go in and out side to side, with Pac speed, he can do that and rack up points

      rds 3-4 : go balls to the wall, throw 5-7 punch combos

      rds 5-6 : go back to fainting and in and out

      etc..

      If this is a close fight and every rds are hard to score, Pac will take it by split decision, they want a 2nd fight, I believe the rematch will be both fighters last fight.

      I think this is a toss up fight, 50/50, anyone can win this fight
      Last edited by Law504; 04-23-2015, 02:05 PM.

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      • bigeastbumrush
        My Momma's Son
        • Feb 2003
        • 19245

        #123
        Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

        Originally posted by Law504
        I have alot money riding on Pac, I have never bet against Floyd Mayweather ever, but I just have a feeling Roach and Pac will put together a gameplan that will confuse Mayweather.

        Mayweather is one of the smarter boxer ever and if I was Roach I would change my gameplan every 2 rds

        rds 1-2 : box Mayweather, use faints throw 2-3 punch combos, go in and out side to side, with Pac speed, he can do that and rack up points

        rds 3-4 : go balls to the wall, throw 5-7 punch combos

        rds 5-6 : go back to fainting and in and out

        etc..

        If this is a close fight and every rds are hard to score, Pac will take it by split decision, they want a 2nd fight, I believe the rematch will be both fighters last fight.

        I think this is a toss up fight, 50/50, anyone can win this fight
        Rounds 1-2 may work because PBF tends not to throw much during the first few rounds.

        Rounds 3-4 will get Manny killed.
        That was Oscar's strategy and while it was effective, PBF has learned from it since then. And Manny's not going to have the strength advantage to push PBF to the ropes.

        Rounds 5-6 The lead right will stop Manny from trying that fainting stuff. He'll be a sitting duck by then.

        I honestly think PBF is going to discipline Manny. Not try to knock him out but just completely pummel him until Roach throws in the towel.

        I think PBF struggles against big swingers. One hitter quitter guys. The guys who hurt him were Mosely, Cotto and Maidana. Manny is more compact with power and speed.

        I think this will play out a lot like PBF's fight vs Arturo Gatti.

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        • Law504
          Rookie
          • Jul 2012
          • 400

          #124
          Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
          Rounds 1-2 may work because PBF tends not to throw much during the first few rounds.

          Rounds 3-4 will get Manny killed.
          That was Oscar's strategy and while it was effective, PBF has learned from it since then. And Manny's not going to have the strength advantage to push PBF to the ropes.

          Rounds 5-6 The lead right will stop Manny from trying that fainting stuff. He'll be a sitting duck by then.

          I honestly think PBF is going to discipline Manny. Not try to knock him out but just completely pummel him until Roach throws in the towel.

          I think PBF struggles against big swingers. One hitter quitter guys. The guys who hurt him were Mosely, Cotto and Maidana. Manny is more compact with power and speed.

          I think this will play out a lot like PBF's fight vs Arturo Gatti.
          I highly doubt that, it will be very similar to Maidana/Mayweather 1 and Castillo/Mayweather, If a slow fighter can get to Mayweather, Pac can get through with ease but Pac is much smaller than Maidana and doesnt have the strength to bully Floyd around, Im very confident Roach will have a gameplan that can get to Mayweather, watching Pac interview and Jimmy Kimmel, Pac looked very happy and confident that he already have the fight won.

          Im still looking for Floyd freak show trash show, which is very odd, yes, I know he does it to sell the fight but I think hes kinda nervous.

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          • SPRINGS03
            MVP
            • Aug 2012
            • 1202

            #125
            Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

            Originally posted by JayBee74
            I got it down to $33.33, so I'm OK with the gamble of it not being fight of the year. I'm hoping though.

            Floyd's a supreme boxer, but aren't most of his fights boring? If you plop down $100 for this fight the ODDS are you're not getting Ali-Frazier.
            Eh, nah, i think that get's overblown. I feel like boxing heads should be able to appreciate all styles of boxing. I enjoy watching different fighters for different things, and i've never seen anyone with defense like mayweather, to me, a lot of his fights are entertaining. And whenever he fights in a more exciting style, people trash him for it(maidana 1, cotto etc) people say he doesn't look as sharp when he actually does stay in the pocket more and fight toe to toe.

            Also, i'd definitely buy tickets for this fight if i had money like that, but then again if i had money like that i would be at a lot of fights.

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            • JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

              #126
              Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

              Originally posted by SPRINGS03
              Eh, nah, i think that get's overblown. I feel like boxing heads should be able to appreciate all styles of boxing. I enjoy watching different fighters for different things, and i've never seen anyone with defense like mayweather, to me, a lot of his fights are entertaining. And whenever he fights in a more exciting style, people trash him for it(maidana 1, cotto etc) people say he doesn't look as sharp when he actually does stay in the pocket more and fight toe to toe.

              Also, i'd definitely buy tickets for this fight if i had money like that, but then again if i had money like that i would be at a lot of fights.
              It's not about appreciating different styles of boxing. My favorite fighters over the years have been Ali, Foreman, Sugar Ray Leonard, Bob Foster, Pavlik, Sergio Martinez, Hearns, Monzon, etc. I lean a little toward the power side, but I can appreciate a good defensive fighter.

              I never criticized a style of boxing. I said most of Floyd's fights are boring. Even his struggle in "Maidana 1" would never be fight of the month, let alone fight of the year. Cotto was decent for a while, but the bottom line is Mayweather has been too good for the competition. If he has early problems (Mosley, Maidana, Judah) he adapts and then....ZZZZZZZZ. He's brilliant. He should be a bigger favorite in this one then he is. I just hope I'm thoroughly entertained, whoever prevails.

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              • RockinDaMike
                All Star
                • Feb 2003
                • 9092

                #127
                Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                I'm glad I can host a fight for the laborers working on my resort. Most of them are very poor and never seen a paquiao fight live. Now they'll see it on a big screen in HD. More excited for them than the actual fight.
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                • SPRINGS03
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1202

                  #128
                  Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                  Originally posted by JayBee74
                  It's not about appreciating different styles of boxing. My favorite fighters over the years have been Ali, Foreman, Sugar Ray Leonard, Bob Foster, Pavlik, Sergio Martinez, Hearns, Monzon, etc. I lean a little toward the power side, but I can appreciate a good defensive fighter.

                  I never criticized a style of boxing. I said most of Floyd's fights are boring. Even his struggle in "Maidana 1" would never be fight of the month, let alone fight of the year. Cotto was decent for a while, but the bottom line is Mayweather has been too good for the competition. If he has early problems (Mosley, Maidana, Judah) he adapts and then....ZZZZZZZZ. He's brilliant. He should be a bigger favorite in this one then he is. I just hope I'm thoroughly entertained, whoever prevails.
                  Ohh, you mean the actual fights themselves? I dunno man, i'd still say he's had some solid fights, cotto, ortiz, maidana 1, weren't bad fights. Hell even canelo,judah and hatton were entertaining decent. Now maidana 2, that was kinda dull, one of the few fights i just streamed.

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                  • allBthere
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 5847

                    #129
                    Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                    Originally posted by SPRINGS03
                    Ohh, you mean the actual fights themselves? I dunno man, i'd still say he's had some solid fights, cotto, ortiz, maidana 1, weren't bad fights. Hell even canelo,judah and hatton were entertaining decent. Now maidana 2, that was kinda dull, one of the few fights i just streamed.
                    Ortiz was a circus though. The thing with Floyd fights is that I agree for the most part they are boring, BUT they still have magic when watching them LIVE, so I agree that for example the canelo fight was good to watch I was in a large sports bar with huge projector screens outside of a casino and simply because it was live and had an electric atmosphere it makes up for the common sense conclusion that it was done before it started. I would like to see him lose and I can admit that easily - so when you're watching it live you know it's POSSIBLE at any moment.

                    Watching a mayweather fight delayed though, especially knowing the outcome is boring 9/10 times. That is simply not the case with a whole bunch of other fighters. It's why you could replay the corrales vs castillo fights a million times and still get viewers.
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                    • JayBee74
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22989

                      #130
                      Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                      Based on current odds Pac has a 36% chance of winning. By comparison Klitschko has a 92% chance of prevailing tonight against Jennings.

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                      • bigbob
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 10471

                        #131
                        Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                        Leading into this fight, I'd still take Mayweather winning at least 9 rounds. Potentially losing a couple near the beginning of the fight feeling out Manny.
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                        • ScoobySnax
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 7624

                          #132
                          Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                          Any idea on where I can catch the ESPN Pacquiao special that aired yesterday? It doesn't look like it's coming on again anytime soon. Thanks!
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                          • RockinDaMike
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 9092

                            #133
                            Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                            Originally posted by ScoobySnax
                            Any idea on where I can catch the ESPN Pacquiao special that aired yesterday? It doesn't look like it's coming on again anytime soon. Thanks!
                            This is what i found on youtube, they altered the audio i guess for copyright.

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                            • ZB9
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 18387

                              #134
                              Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                              I can definitely see "them" installing judges that will lean towards Manny in the decision because of the insane amount of money to be made in the rematches.

                              and it will probably go to decision because Mayweather hasnt knocked anyone out in over 10 years.

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                              • JayBee74
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 22989

                                #135
                                Re: Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

                                Originally posted by ZB9
                                I can definitely see "them" installing judges that will lean towards Manny in the decision because of the insane amount of money to be made in the rematches.

                                and it will probably go to decision because Mayweather hasnt knocked anyone out in over 10 years.
                                Well, one of the judges didn't help Pac in his 2004 clash with Marquez. Burt Clemens cost Pac a victory by scoring the first round 10-7 Pacquiao, but Marquez went down three times. He admitted his mistake, but the round should have been 10-6, and the fight shouldn't have ended in a draw.

                                These are very experienced judges. All have worked countless high profile championship fights, and nothing in their records indicate they have been selected to judge Manny to victory. You think Floyd and his guys would allow that?

                                This from Leonard Ellerbe of Mayweather Promotions:

                                “I can't believe it, but this is one thing Bob Arum and I do agree on: We're very pleased with the selection of the officials. I have no doubt the officials will be very fair in judging the fight and the referee will undoubtedly do a masterful job.”

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