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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23441

    #31
    Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

    Originally posted by Flightwhite24
    Really enjoying the game. I’m having a hard time figuring out why my stamina burns faster than the cpu? Other than that it’s been a fun experience in the 2 short days that I’ve played.


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    That has been a problem for a long time ever since the beginning. USER takes a much bigger and faster stamina lost than the CPU. At one point they fixed it for a couple weeks than it went back to the way it is now.

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    • kingsofthevalley
      MVP
      • May 2011
      • 1962

      #32
      Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

      I'm switching up between PC and Xbox Series X versions now. Depends on if my wife and daughter still awake lol. If they're awake, I hit the office and jump on the PC, once they're sleep I hit the Xbox version on the big screen! I'm very excited to see what the future brings for this. They have a ways to go, hell, UFC5 has been out for almost a year and they're still patching and adding fighters, I have high hopes for Undisputed. The foundation is there, let's see where they take it.

      A few things that need to be addressed:

      1. Career mode presentation/flare.
      2. Lateral movement in the pocket (not sure why your boxer gets stuck in mud when close in to the opponent). Backing up is also a problem, its like I get stuck and can't get away, then the super spammers go ham on me lol.
      3. Tone down that super spam hook, I would suggest knocking off some percentage of damage off of that, maybe 20 - 30 % off and spammers going to have problems.
      4. Make the lean/sway mechanics a bit more smooth (that would take a completely new control scheme however, not sure they can change that at this point).

      Overall, I'll give the game a 6.5 - 7.0 right now. I'm 9-11 on Xbox and 2-2 on PC. PC has more desync I've noticed than the Xbox version. Having a blast with this, SCIs attention to detail with the boxer locomotion is second to none, first time I've seen this type of precision movement in a boxing/UFC game. I'm hearing some people saying its clunky when it's really just that they're used to EAs brand of fighters with everyone sliding around the ring like Disney on ice lol, with zero weight transition. I can see what they mean from that perspective as the change of direction in Undisputed is not immediate response to controller input, however, this is the developers intent so if you're not feeling it, all I can say is stick with FNC and UFC5 for your combat sports fix. This game was certainly made by "sim" heads for "sim" heads (for the most part).
      Last edited by kingsofthevalley; 10-10-2024, 10:30 PM.

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      • James Rodriguez
        Rookie
        • Oct 2024
        • 19

        #33
        Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

        Also tried:
        Pro
        0.5 stam
        1.5 damage


        I read this on Redit to make a more realistic stamina drain and to put on Pro. Do these settings still work well? And what should relative time be set on? I only had the game for 3 days, and I play on medium, aka intermediate.

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        • kingsofthevalley
          MVP
          • May 2011
          • 1962

          #34
          Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

          Originally posted by James Rodriguez
          Also tried:
          Pro
          0.5 stam
          1.5 damage


          I read this on Redit to make a more realistic stamina drain and to put on Pro. Do these settings still work well? And what should relative time be set on? I only had the game for 3 days, and I play on medium, aka intermediate.
          Oh, I forgot all about this! Where is this hidden at? This only works for offline if I’m not mistaken?

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          • James Rodriguez
            Rookie
            • Oct 2024
            • 19

            #35
            Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

            Originally posted by kingsofthevalley
            Oh, I forgot all about this! Where is this hidden at? This only works for offline if I’m not mistaken?
            yea imma offline player only

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            • kingsofthevalley
              MVP
              • May 2011
              • 1962

              #36
              Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

              Originally posted by James Rodriguez
              yea imma offline player only
              Ok, the 0.5 is off. It appears to be the lower this number is, the lesser effects. Just used it and A.I. stamina isn’t going down at all.

              Went up to 1.5 and that did the trick. Wouldn’t go up higher than that as it seemed like AI couldn’t manage it and burned itself out (could’ve been that particular AIs aggressive style tho, they all have different styles).

              Either way, it may need to be patched because whatever setting you pick , the players stamina burns much quicker with less output. Player has to slow your output waaay down.
              Last edited by kingsofthevalley; 10-11-2024, 04:14 AM.

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              • phillyfan23
                MVP
                • Feb 2005
                • 2319

                #37
                Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                I'm no boxing expert by any stretch, but playing this game requires patience, strategy, pacing, mixing up punches. Boxer ratings add additional layers to this as well.
                Previous games, playing sim was a choice, this game punishes you if you're reckless and in essence FORCES you to play sim to have success.

                Used gatti vs cpu ward. Tried to swarm ward with little care, lost handily. In the rematch, I boxed a lot more and won 5/6 rounds. 7th round, gatti's eyes getting swollen shut( bad swell/cut ratings) , and the game again forced me to switch up to become way more defensive.

                Match ended in a split decision draw.

                Next match I used lyndon arthur vs rokohl. I saw that Arthur has below average stamina ratings. You need to play according to your fighters' ratings. I use 1.5 stamina, so more taxing.

                I basically fought to conserve energy for the first half of the fight and try to flurry at the end of rounds. Because in the previous match with Arthur, I got gassed after the 5th round throwing 60 punches a round.

                This match I won easily.

                Regarding stamina, boxer ratings have a large effect. I used Lyndon Arthus 80 stamina fighter, versus bivol a 92 stamina fighter. More or less the same output, but I gassed considerably quicker.

                Game is a hit in my eyes, looking forward for DLC fighters and see the tuning the devs make to the gameplay. Adding a clinch would be nice especially if tied into fighter ai. Some fighters rarely clinch some guys live off of it.

                Game is 9/10 in my eyes.
                Last edited by phillyfan23; 10-11-2024, 05:32 AM.

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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23441

                  #38
                  Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                  Seem like every CPU boxer, no matter who I pick to fight against is a counter puncher fight style. And for some reason the fighter store don't work for me. I click on it and nothing happens.

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                  • James Rodriguez
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2024
                    • 19

                    #39
                    Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                    Originally posted by kingsofthevalley
                    Ok, the 0.5 is off. It appears to be the lower this number is, the lesser effects. Just used it and A.I. stamina isn’t going down at all.

                    Went up to 1.5 and that did the trick. Wouldn’t go up higher than that as it seemed like AI couldn’t manage it and burned itself out (could’ve been that particular AIs aggressive style tho, they all have different styles).

                    Either way, it may need to be patched because whatever setting you pick , the players stamina burns much quicker with less output. Player has to slow your output waaay down.
                    I see you liked my wishlist for realistic movements. Are there any changes you want to see in Fighter's style to add to my wishlist? I played with RJJ today, the bigger version in red shorts, very realistic but missing those quick loose shots he did to go inside and missing those quick reflex shots he could do while backing up.


                    My only problem is movements. I just want that authentic experience; it doesn't need to be 100%, but I would take 80
                    Last edited by James Rodriguez; 10-11-2024, 07:33 AM.

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                    • James Rodriguez
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2024
                      • 19

                      #40
                      Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                      Seem like every CPU boxer, no matter who I pick to fight against is a counter puncher fight style. And for some reason the fighter store don't work for me. I click on it and nothing happens.
                      They need to fix things still like always with games so frustrating

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                      • kingsofthevalley
                        MVP
                        • May 2011
                        • 1962

                        #41
                        Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                        Originally posted by James Rodriguez
                        They need to fix things still like always with games so frustrating
                        Yea, I'm seeing a LOT of negative comments across the board, i.e, youtube, reddit, etc which is confusing me, and depending on where you go there's lots of positive as well. Its like the base is split down the middle, I don't know for sure of course, it just seems that way. Many of the comments are odd however, from 'this looks like a PS3 game' , to 'the footwork is arcade', and a multitude of other strange comments that seem to have no basis in logic and are clearly not true as your looking directly at the game lol. The overpowered spam hooks I can definitely see and agree with the complaints, but not much else (outside of the list in my previous post). A few things, but the game is certainly not "broken". Makes me wonder who these people really are.
                        Last edited by kingsofthevalley; 10-11-2024, 11:27 PM.

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                        • James Rodriguez
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2024
                          • 19

                          #42
                          Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                          Originally posted by kingsofthevalley
                          Yea, I'm seeing a LOT of negative comments across the board, i.e, youtube, reddit, etc which is confusing me, and depending on where you go there's lots of positive as well. Its like the base is split down the middle, I don't know for sure of course, it just seems that way. Many of the comments are odd however, from 'this looks like a PS3 game' , to 'the footwork is arcade', and a multitude of other strange comments that seem to have no basis in logic and are clearly not true as your looking directly at the game lol. The overpowered spam hooks I can definitely see and agree with the complaints, but not much else (outside of the list in my previous post). A few things, but the game is certainly not "broken". Makes me wonder who these people really are.
                          I see multiple trolls or just people who obviously never played Fight Night back in the day saying and going off of videos only saying lies like this game is worst somehow, I played Fight years ago multiple games of the series FN4 and Champ, and even back then I felt the movements were missing a lot of details. That game is the one that is robotic moving like somebody is moving them like puppets. The movement is very simple, and the feet look like they’re gliding. I saw a video showing, and for the people saying all people use is power punches, well, those are online players, and people are lying, saying only power punches do damage. I hardly even throw power shots; I'm able to often keep my opponent away, and I can hurt them only using regular shots. I also drop them often from regular shots.

                          Of course as I explained I need to land more regular shots than what I think I need to they need to update the regular shots power,but as I said people are lying saying they do no damage at all,their saying that I think cause they don’t see people just overacting like their used to in fn,real boxers don’t overreact like that with every punch

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                          • Gotmadskillzson
                            Live your life
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 23441

                            #43
                            Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                            One thing I noticed with this game from playing on PC forever, is that this game depends heavily on counter punching and combos. They do the most damage. Regular punches do very little damage. My biggest issue with the game is when you rock the CPU, they turn into Floyd Mayweather and block EVERYTHING all of a sudden. And the fact they can move back faster than you can move forward when they are rocked. And I hate when they are rocked and they just lean back and all your punches all of a sudden can't reach them, I be like WTF.

                            Also it is very weird how often punches miss in this game. Leave you scratching your head like how did that miss when they are so close. Game pretty much force you to be a counter puncher. Tried to play with Ali as Ali and that was a no go. His jab missed 90% of the time and when it did connect, it didn't do damage like his jab did in real life.

                            So yeah they need to fix things. Especially need to fix the the USER burning stamina way faster than the CPU. Game is fun but yet annoying at the same time is the best way to describe it.

                            Also came across a bug last night fighting against Roy Jones Jr where when the round started he was just on his knee in the corner and wouldn't move for a good 30 seconds. Then when he did stand up, he didn't move, just stood there in the corner taking hits for a good 2 minutes straight.

                            Wish the roster was deeper though. So many legends missing.

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                            • Bamtino
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 372

                              #44
                              Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                              Originally posted by kingsofthevalley
                              Yea, I'm seeing a LOT of negative comments across the board, i.e, youtube, reddit, etc which is confusing me, and depending on where you go there's lots of positive as well. Its like the base is split down the middle, I don't know for sure of course, it just seems that way. Many of the comments are odd however, from 'this looks like a PS3 game' , to 'the footwork is arcade', and a multitude of other strange comments that seem to have no basis in logic and are clearly not true as your looking directly at the game lol. The overpowered spam hooks I can definitely see and agree with the complaints, but not much else (outside of the list in my previous post). A few things, but the game is certainly not "broken". Makes me wonder who these people really are.
                              Most of the negative comments is from people who haven been playing this game in early access for 1.8 years. All the nonsense we complained about still hasn't been fixed. Online is EXACTLY the same as it was in early access with ghost punches and desync. To make matters worse they didn't release a build for early access players to test in 8 months. They went straight to launch and that failed badly. In other words, the hate is warranted.

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                              • Bamtino
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 372

                                #45
                                Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                                Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                                Also it is very weird how often punches miss in this game.
                                You're not missing, the punches literally go through your opponents head. In the case of the CPU it will cancel a punch animation and move the moment you press the button.

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/undisputedb...through_faces/

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