A list of all Grapple Momentum Scenarios in EA UFC 2

[TurkeyOfJive]

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Appreciate the write up GPD. Knew most of them - only found out the lumberjack sweep when my CAF got the appropriate ground move level recently!

[Evil97]

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Stacked Guard
-SUB transition to Sprawl gives momentum advantage to SUB getup to over under

This one is way too fast IMO. It's essentially a free transition. Not too many people know about it because the transition to sprawl isn't a common move on a lot of fighters, but it pops up in top UT fighters. I remember trying to bait someone for the guillotine sub reversal from the get up to over under from sprawl. Purposely obtaining stacked knowing these 2 transitions were coming back to back, and that get up is just unstoppable. Tested in practice mode as well, it just zips through.

[fishingtime]

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Can someone please make a vid of this because I barely understand some of it...

Start watching your Grapple Assist HUD when your opponent starts to transition. The momentum moves pop up. I've started waiting to look for all of these and transitioning based on the GAH during their transition.

[TreJayMMA]

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Start watching your Grapple Assist HUD when your opponent starts to transition. The momentum moves pop up. I've started waiting to look for all of these and transitioning based on the GAH during their transition.

Ohhhh ok thanks man

[Evil97]

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Start watching your Grapple Assist HUD when your opponent starts to transition. The momentum moves pop up. I've started waiting to look for all of these and transitioning based on the GAH during their transition.

Momentum moves pop up? You mean you notice a faster grapple meter, because that's all a momentum transition does. There are transitions that can be one or another based on circumstances like GA or stamina (I think). For example the DOM postured up to half guard vs the DOM postured up to side control, which takes a bigger advantage to get the prompt.

[fishingtime]

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Momentum moves pop up? You mean you notice a faster grapple meter, because that's all a momentum transition does.

No. Watch the GAH when they are transitioning. The prompts change to directions you can go. Surprised more don't know about this.

[cernac]

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Start watching your Grapple Assist HUD when your opponent starts to transition. The momentum moves pop up. I've started waiting to look for all of these and transitioning based on the GAH during their transition.

On occasion there is a silver badge with RT that pops up during a transition; what is it?


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[Evil97]

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No. Watch the GAH when they are transitioning. The prompts change to directions you can go. Surprised more don't know about this.

Those are not momentum transitions. Those are transitions that happen mid animation, so if there was a race to to fill the meter, you would get that new transition you are seeing pop up. The move changing on your HUD have nothing to do with the transition you need to perform in the next position.

[cernac]

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GPD, thanks so much! You and others have posted similar guides/tutorials, but they soon get buried in these threads. Can you please make this a sticky where these and others are kept permanently?


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[Evil97]

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Can someone please make a vid of this because I barely understand some of it...

I will make a vid in a bit. I will just cover a few since I will be using two controllers myself. No audio.

Full guard:
-DOM transition to Full Guard Postured Up gives momentum advantage to SUB Feet on hips getup

This for example. A transition from Full Guard Top into Postured up, then allows a faster grapple meter fill up for the feet on hips get up in the next position (RT and down). The same is for each example. The idea is that a fighter has momentum to pull off the next transition faster than what is usually available. You need to go for them right after to gain the best momentum.

[Bigg Cee]

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GPD, thanks so much! You and others have posted similar guides/tutorials, but they soon get buried in these threads. Can you please make this a sticky where these and others are kept permanently?


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A sticky for the 2 threads GPD made would be a good idea. These need to be at the top of the forum with the other ones.

[Evil97]

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Here is a quick vid I made. There is no audio, but I tried to first show the momentum transition. Then show the same scenario without momentum. Then show it again with momentum. Pay attention to the speed of the grapple meter.

https://www.twitch.tv/eddiestone97/v/78042732

This covers 3 of the momentum transitions in this order.

Full Guard
-DOM transition to Full Guard Postured Up gives momentum advantage to SUB Feet on hips getup

Stacked Guard
-SUB transition to Sprawl gives momentum advantage to SUB getup to over under

Full Guard
-SUB transition to Back Sitting gives momentum advantage to SUB sweep to guard right
(becomes clearer towards the end of the vid when I kept trading guards)

[fishingtime]

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Those are not momentum transitions. Those are transitions that happen mid animation, so if there was a race to to fill the meter, you would get that new transition you are seeing pop up. The move changing on your HUD have nothing to do with the transition you need to perform in the next position.

Some are though. I made a video that even shows it. Edited: I thought the momentum transitions were actually the transitions that you used their momentum to advance to a better position. Misunderstood this term all this time lol.

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[cernac]

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A sticky for the 2 threads GPD made would be a good idea. These need to be at the top of the forum with the other ones.

GPD put together an excellent grappling guide, and ZHunter made an excellent striking guide--those should be a sticky as well. For all the complaints about this game, there is no argument that it is deep and needs explanation.

I would love for EA to combine guides and videos on YouTube demonstrating different aspects and strategies. Yes, it does take time, but if they committed to one per week, they would have around 50 by now.


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[SUGATA]

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Why there are NO momentums for Clinch transitions itself?
Ground grappling is awesome. Clinch uses the same grappling mechanics BUT dont use its features (GB reversals, Momentums). Why?