List of "Transition Switches"

[neyney00]

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Thanks for sharing!

Who are you using to achieve this transition from Sprawl Bottom to Backside Top? I would guess a great wrestler with level 4 Wrestling Sweeps. They have the Backside Top transition from Sprawl Bottom normally when L1 is pressed. I tested the frames and the transition line actually goes backwards a little when Transition Switching from Get Up to Backside. I believe your best bet if you want Backside is to go for it directly. Unless of course you're not using someone with Wrestling Sweeps level 4. Then I'm very interested to know who you've done this with.

Kabib has it.

Also you can transition switch from a regular takedown to a power takedown the same way

[Morgan Monkman]

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What ever happened to trial by fire? That's how i learn my MMA games.

Not hating on you guys at all, but damn i would get bored doing this lol.

Good job either way.

[Haz____]

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Yeah. Crazy thread.

You guys are hardcore.

Really great stuff though!!!!!

[thelasthurtknee]

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Amazing stuff guys. Didn't even know u could transition moves like this once you started a move.

[Bigg Cee]

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the thread got a sticky.

[oshighwayman]

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I wont buy UFC3 unless there s really good deep tutorial.
I bought this game on release day and just now I found out that what I thought it s just some transition glitch it s actually gameplay mechanics...
O_o

dear UFC dev u need to let people know how things works, not everybody has time and willpower to go to training with 2 controllers..

[WhoDatNinja]

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Seems to be a lot of things with this game that ended up not making the final cut but didnt have time to remove the remnants. Perk descriptions, R2 defense, etc... I wonder if some higher ups forced it out early to get that royalty revenue to help boost the potential ufc sale.

[Haz____]

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I wont buy UFC3 unless there s really good deep tutorial.
I bought this game on release day and just now I found out that what I thought it s just some transition glitch it s actually gameplay mechanics...
O_o

dear UFC dev u need to let people know how things works, not everybody has time and willpower to go to training with 2 controllers..

I'm 100% OK with arcane mechanics.

That's part of the fun, & experience IMO. The fact that even though I play every single day, and still months after release i'm still learning new subtleties is kind of awesome.

[Generative James]

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I added videos to the original list!

The accelerated ones even have time code so you can see the speed differences for yourself. Especially Rubber Guard.

[Ksearyback]

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I wish you didn't have to switch to an armbar to be effective.

The triangle being 5 friggin gates is super lame.

Sometimes I just wanna choke a dude out!

I agree. I know it ultimately doesn't matter because you get a submission for a win. But jiu jitsu nerds like us would like to have options for chains (or improving the probability of finishing a submission by reducing gates) which don't end in an armbar.

That isn't hard, or unrealistic. Maybe they could mix it up by character or something. Omoplata, triangle, and armbar - as an example - are all moves that can be chained in various combinations. Same for kneebar, heel hook, ankle lock, toe hold (4 moves which can all be chained with each other).

[JustBlazeM8]

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Has anyone tried transition to half guard from side control bottom and holding L2 for a D'arce choke?

Also, has anyone tried the transition from side control from rubber guard into an omoplata through holding L2 midway?

[Generative James]

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Has anyone tried transition to half guard from side control bottom and holding L2 for a D'arce choke?

Also, has anyone tried the transition from side control from rubber guard into an omoplata through holding L2 midway?

Good eye, my friend!

I recorded these transitions and counted the frames. The D'arce Choke to Half Guard Bottom transition switch from Side Control Bottom shaves off four frames from the normal transition. With a stamina advantage, the transition shaves off up to six frames.

The Omoplata to Side Control Top from Rubber Guard Bottom shaved off 2 or 3 frames with or without a stamina advantage.

Now, I'm counting the frames only when there is yellow on the meter ring. Sometimes, the name of the transition will turn yellow for a frame or two beforehand, or stay yellow a frame or two afterwards. Or the names of other available transitions will disappear for a frame before the ring begins to fill, indicating it knows the transition is coming. So I don't think this is an exact science. When a switch speeds a transition 6 to 10 frames faster, it's easy for me to assume that this gives your opponent less time to deny the transition. But GPD said you don't have the entire time it takes to fill the meter to deny, and we've had no confirmation that these switches actually shorten the denial window.


GPD, will you verify that a meter going faster from a transition switch gives your opponent less time to deny? Especially when it is only two or three frames faster? And do these vary by character skill level?

[manliest_Man]

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Found a new one Boys!

I did it with Daniel Cormier.

I was submissive side control, was holding L1 for a getup (torwards the half guard transition getup), then let go of L1 in the middle of the animation and i take the backside of the opponent.

Opponent's stamina gotta be low or else it goes to half guard.

[Generative James]

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Found a new one Boys!

I did it with Daniel Cormier.

I was submissive side control, was holding L1 for a getup (torwards the half guard transition getup), then let go of L1 in the middle of the animation and i take the backside of the opponent.

Opponent's stamina gotta be low or else it goes to half guard.

The switch is unnecessary in this position. It's entirely stamina dependent. If the Side Control bottom fighter is a good enough wrestler and the top fighter has low stamina, the unmodified Half Guard transition automatically becomes Back Side until the top fighter regains some stamina.

Keep experimenting though, I'm sure there are still undiscovered gems in the grappling!

[Generative James]

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I added the video with time code to the 1st page for the D'arce to Half Guard switch. I played around with different guys and stamina levels, and the average speed increase for this switch is 5 frames.

What I found most interesting making this was the speed of the D'arce by itself. With equal stamina, the D'arce is slow, coming in at 51 frames, almost two whole seconds. But the bigger the stamina advantage, the faster it gets. At a severe stamina advantage, the D'arce clocked in as fast as 14 frames! Less then half of one second! Made a quick video illustrating.

https://youtu.be/AFub-_Vf93g

I will wait to make the video for the other switch until GPD confirms that faster meters from transition switches actually do shorten the opponents denial window and that I'm not wasting everyone's time with these. Especially when they are only 2 or 3 frames faster.