Fat View Hungry Youtuber Targeting EA UFC 3 over MTs

[PapaLemur]

Re: Fat View Hungry Youtuber Targeting EA UFC 3 over MTs

I'm really curious, do you think packs of Yugioh or MTG cards are gambling?

And not buying them is literally all any given individual can do about them,because I'm not going to not buy a game I enjoy because there's a feature I don't like in a game mode I don't play.

Except we aren't arguing about what to do about them. We're talking about whether or not they should be included at all. So when someone comes along when we're talking about a completely different subject to confidently say, "well just don't buy 'em!", I get a little stir-crazy.

Card games have no mechanism for earning cards for free and don't cost an initial $60 to just have access to buy the cards (yes I am aware of starter packs, not the same thing). They let you know how many of a certain type of card you will get and they keep the gaming system fair so everyone can't just go buy whichever cards they want.

[Skufflz]

Re: Fat View Hungry Youtuber Targeting EA UFC 3 over MTs

"Don't buy them" would be a viable answer in the case where absolutely nobody bought them... We know that won't happen though, because someone will break down and want that edge.

[Skufflz]

Re: Fat View Hungry Youtuber Targeting EA UFC 3 over MTs

Sadly microtransations are here to stay, because not everyone will speak with their wallets, or band together as a community and stand up to them. Then you have guys like me and others. I'm going to give my money to EA for the base game and not touch the microtransactions. EA still gets my money though.

[Nugget7211]

Re: Fat View Hungry Youtuber Targeting EA UFC 3 over MTs

Except we aren't arguing about what to do about them. We're talking about whether or not they should be included at all. So when someone comes along when we're talking about a completely different subject to confidently say, "well just don't buy 'em!", I get a little stir-crazy.

Card games have no mechanism for earning cards for free and don't cost an initial $60 to just have access to buy the cards (yes I am aware of starter packs, not the same thing). They let you know how many of a certain type of card you will get and they keep the gaming system fair so everyone can't just go buy whichever cards they want.

If they're making money, they should be included as far as the publisher is concerned. We're never going to moan enough to get a company to stop doing something that is making them money. So, not buying them is the only way to get them to a point where EA and others stop putting them in because it's not a worthwhile use of resources.

You didn't really answer my question about card packs, as far as I can tell they're identical to lootboxes just for a physical game. Different tiers/valuations of pack each with a certain number of common/rare/legendary or whatever cards but you have no idea what you're actually going to get. If we use UFC packs as an example, different tiers that cost different amounts that each contain a predetermined number of whatever type of cards with no guarantee of what exactly you'll get. A progression system to unlock them without packs or being in a $60 game doesn't change whether or not this is gambling, the only thing you could really argue it changes is how ****ty a thing to do it is. Basically, I'm of the opinion that MTs are an incredibly ****ty thing to put in a game, but not gambling. Gambling to me requires a complete loss outcome, where you put things in and get nothing out. As ****ty as lootboxes are, you'll always get something.

[kehlis]

Re: Fat View Hungry Youtuber Targeting EA UFC 3 over MTs

Please use mature, adult thread titles.

This one is completely immature.

The conversation is already being had here:

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...eath-mode.html