Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the ground

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  • Trillz
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 1369

    #16
    Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

    heres my thoughts on this:

    full mount DOM is a joke you cant finish against a player that knows what hes doing. They need to make the block bar diminish most quicker in that position to force people to transition, hip bump or arm trap.

    However in ea ufc 2 the side back mount was stupid when hurt when 1-2 punches can KO if your head was red. I dont want to see that rubbish again. block should diminish quicker in different positions at different levels e.g. Back mount, full mount and flat out back mount should be positions the block breaks down the quickest. After that it should be half guard and side saddle then the rest of the positions could remain the same.
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    • mannyonelover
      Pro
      • Apr 2016
      • 645

      #17
      Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

      the game lost an essential part of mma and dosnt capture the moment of a hard tough fight , ref stoppages or just getting between you and the opponent after a head kick ko is missing!
      why was it taking out since the first game anyway??

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      • tissues250
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1526

        #18
        Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

        Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
        Why give players a win for not actually finishing you??

        If you have full health and are blocking Bigg C shouldn't get a auto win just because he can hold you down.

        So happy they removed it.
        It is a certain finish. I have seen it in real life very frequently. Its a TKO but Not Knockout. If you have full health, you can escape in that situation, not keep block up over and over. How about this game? Every fight ends with Knockout aniamtion on the ground by GnP strike.

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        • Stealthhh
          Pro
          • Nov 2017
          • 516

          #19
          Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

          Off topic, but how come we can't have a camera angle like the gif above showing the cage instead of it actually being invisible like it's been in the past 2 EA ufc's? At least an option would be nice some of us like to play with more realistic camera angles.

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          • BilllyBopaw
            Banned
            • Dec 2017
            • 73

            #20
            Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

            Originally posted by tissues250
            It is a certain finish. I have seen it in real life very frequently. Its a TKO but Not Knockout. If you have full health, you can escape in that situation, not keep block up over and over. How about this game? Every fight ends with Knockout aniamtion on the ground by GnP strike.

            This exact scenario was possible in Undisputed 3

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            • Malaach
              Pro
              • Aug 2017
              • 503

              #21
              Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

              I thought this might of been in the game again but I haven't actually seen it. But I 100% heard the ref say if nothing is done he will stop the fight. I'll mess around with this to see what I find.

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              • Haz____
                Omaewa mou shindeiru
                • Apr 2016
                • 4023

                #22
                Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                Seriously this happens all the time IRL. They need to bring that back for sure.
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                • tissues250
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1526

                  #23
                  Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                  Originally posted by Stealthhh
                  Off topic, but how come we can't have a camera angle like the gif above showing the cage instead of it actually being invisible like it's been in the past 2 EA ufc's? At least an option would be nice some of us like to play with more realistic camera angles.
                  THIS. I really hope so since ea ufc1. It looked really weird. Why we can't see the cage net against the cage??? I don't understand.

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                  • AeroZeppelin27
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 2287

                    #24
                    Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                    Originally posted by Haz____
                    Seriously this happens all the time IRL. They need to bring that back for sure.
                    This. It's not like its was 3-4 strikes (which is more than enough to get full GA in Mount Sub now) that got the stoppage. It was a lot, I had it happen when I first played UFC 1 and got stacked and turtled cause I didn't know what I was doing, after about 10-15 punches to my guard the ref stepped in. Rare happened after that, as transition attempts and all that cancel it out.

                    If it was to return, it'd be a finish you'd see against players who don't know how to go to the ground and turtle, a transition attempt would cancel it..

                    Annd as im writing this I realise they probably took it out cause you'd never see it in the UFC 2 ground system (like ref standups, though they are there, they only activate after 30 seconds of complete inactivity from both players, which doesn't happen, ever) but they would have been a nice easter egg or something if you were playing someone who just turtles and ate endless blocked headshots and unblocked body shots.

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                    • Malaach
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2017
                      • 503

                      #25
                      Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                      Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                      One of the best things the EA UFC series has ever done and it has yet to make it's return when we need something like this in UFC3.


                      Found it I was looking for this thread. I'm hoping something like this does return as well. Otherwise the game has no TKO's except foe ones intitated from the finish the fight positions. Please bring these back.

                      This would look even better if we had ground sways as well.

                      Also was finished like this against Holloway so it's 100% realistic.

                      But if they bring this back, ref breaks need tuning as well but only for certain positions. Some Dom positions should not have a ref break happening.

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                      • RetractedMonkey
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 1624

                        #26
                        Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                        Originally posted by Malaach
                        Found it I was looking for this thread. I'm hoping something like this does return as well. Otherwise the game has no TKO's except foe ones intitated from the finish the fight positions. Please bring these back.

                        This would look even better if we had ground sways as well.

                        Also was finished like this against Holloway so it's 100% realistic.

                        But if they bring this back, ref breaks need tuning as well but only for certain positions. Some Dom positions should not have a ref break happening.
                        That finish in the gif is still in, as is the TKO from side saddle and back flat. Basically, if it was in UFC 2, you can TKO them from there without them actually going out.

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                        • DaisukEasy
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 577

                          #27
                          Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                          Now, most of you know I'm all about realism so I want this too. But not until they overhaul the ground game.

                          The way striking on the ground works now, adding TKO's like this are completely and utterly overpowered.

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                          • Malaach
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 503

                            #28
                            Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                            Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                            That finish in the gif is still in, as is the TKO from side saddle and back flat. Basically, if it was in UFC 2, you can TKO them from there without them actually going out.
                            I'll throw UFC 2 in later on to check it out. In EA UFC 1 it was different though because even Mount had this in. It was more similar to the ground tko's UFC Undisputed 2009 had.

                            Back mount I never seen that position get used in EA UFC 2.
                            Back side control I know didn't have this the strikes would bleed through block and put your opponent out.

                            Speaking of back side control there's still no knees in that position to try and get a GSP like tko.

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                            • RetractedMonkey
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 1624

                              #29
                              Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                              Originally posted by Malaach
                              I'll throw UFC 2 in later on to check it out. In EA UFC 1 it was different though because even Mount had this in. It was more similar to the ground tko's UFC Undisputed 2009 had.

                              Back mount I never seen that position get used in EA UFC 2.
                              Back side control I know didn't have this the strikes would bleed through block and put your opponent out.

                              Speaking of back side control there's still no knees in that position to try and get a GSP like tko.
                              Yeah, the punches from the main chain of positions (guard, half, side, mount) all cannot cause a TKO like that. Sometimes you can get it to where they get finished but not knocked all the way out (arms in the air unable to block), but not the same. Pretty disappointing.

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                              • Solid_Altair
                                EA Game Changer
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 2043

                                #30
                                Re: Please bring back the UFC 1 referee stoppage when you hold block 2 long on the gr

                                The GnP just needs to be severely re-tuned for UFC 3. UFC 2's scheme is much better than that UFC 1 crazy set up. I remember luring a guy to burn his stamina from FG. He was just gitting my block and my head was totally fine. Then the fight got stopped all of a sudden. It cracked me up.

                                Having it so it looks like a TKO if the last strike lands through the block would be nice, though.

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