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  • Serengeti1
    MVP
    • Mar 2016
    • 1720

    #16
    Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

    Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
    Sorry, got the wrong player. That your opponent keeps letting go of block right before the uppercut lands.
    Are you saying it's a conspiracy? haha. I'm just guessing when he's gonna lower his guard.

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    • GameplayDevUFC
      Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
      • Jun 2014
      • 2830

      #17
      Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

      Originally posted by Serengeti95
      Are you saying it's a conspiracy? haha. I'm just guessing when he's gonna lower his guard.
      I'm just saying it's weird.

      It looks like he's intentionally throwing overhands or ducking timed to your uppercuts.

      I'm not saying that's what's happening, but that's what it looks like.

      There is zero setup to those strikes.

      It's just duck/upper over and over again and they just happen to slip through and cause a rock every fourth time.

      I've played thousands of games by now and never seen this pattern before.

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      • Serengeti1
        MVP
        • Mar 2016
        • 1720

        #18
        Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
        I'm just saying it's weird.

        It looks like he's intentionally throwing overhands or ducking timed to your uppercuts.

        I'm not saying that's what's happening, but that's what it looks like.

        There is zero setup to those strikes.

        It's just duck/upper over and over again and they just happen to slip through and cause a rock every fourth time.

        I've played thousands of games by now and never seen this pattern before.
        Duck/upper crumbles people and doesn't leave you very vulnerable. I expect it to get nerfed at some point but it's hard to tell what is OP and what isn't right now unless it's just an annoying/unrealistic mechanic like straights with stopping power in tight. Gotten a ton of flash KO's with duck/upper tho.

        Here's a KO I got earlier... was the only strike I threw...

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        I really enjoy the damage/vulnerability system but duck/upper is probably something to look out for.

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        • GameplayDevUFC
          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
          • Jun 2014
          • 2830

          #19
          Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

          So I know with 100% certainty that overhands are too vulnerable. It usually shows up against uppers and leg kicks.

          This was an overhand intercept.

          I'm more interested to know if the others were as well, or if there's something else that's just getting too vulnerable.

          To explain why, vulnerabilities stack.

          Fwd moving, ducking, lead/back punch, etc.

          And each strike has a vulnerability peak, based on its damage.

          Overhands stack too many, and become too vulnerable and need to be tuned down.

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          • Serengeti1
            MVP
            • Mar 2016
            • 1720

            #20
            Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

            Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
            So I know with 100% certainty that overhands are too vulnerable. It usually shows up against uppers and leg kicks.

            This was an overhand intercept.

            I'm more interested to know if the others were as well, or if there's something else that's just getting too vulnerable.

            To explain why, vulnerabilities stack.

            Fwd moving, ducking, lead/back punch, etc.

            And each strike has a vulnerability peak, based on its damage.

            Overhands stack too many, and become too vulnerable and need to be tuned down.
            He wasn't throwing any overhands from what I remember. If I had to guess.... It might be the elbows. He threw them.

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            • chapmandachamp
              Rookie
              • Jul 2014
              • 379

              #21
              Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

              Stamina should lower the amount able to be blocked. It should be a stamina race to a sense. Yoel
              Would kill everyone if stamina didn’t matter. Also make perm stamina used it sub attempts


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              • Haz____
                Omaewa mou shindeiru
                • Apr 2016
                • 4023

                #22
                Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

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                Notice how when Faber has no stamina he moved labored and slow. Wasting his stamina without thinking had a real consequence.

                Also notice how much more smooth head movement flowed.

                You can't recreate that in UFC 3.
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                • GameplayDevUFC
                  Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2830

                  #23
                  Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                  Originally posted by Haz____
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                  Notice how when Faber has no stamina he moved labored and slow. Wasting his stamina without thinking had a real consequence.
                  That happens in UFC 3 as well.

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                  • Don Jon
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 610

                    #24
                    Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                    Originally posted by Haz____
                    Notice how when Faber has no stamina he moved labored and slow. Wasting his stamina without thinking had a real consequence.

                    Also notice how much more smooth head movement flowed.

                    You can't recreate that in UFC 3.
                    First thing I noticed was the finish the fight sequence. Unrealistic how many walkoff ko's there are in UFC 3.
                    Bucs, Lighting, Rays,

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                    • WarMMA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4612

                      #25
                      Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                      Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                      That happens in UFC 3 as well.
                      It happens only when the fighters short term stamina is shot right?

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                      • Dave4585
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 53

                        #26
                        Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                        This is really concerning at least to me because I’m the type of fighter who like to wear opponents down before finishing them instead of just swinging like a mad man.


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                        • GameplayDevUFC
                          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2830

                          #27
                          Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                          Originally posted by WarMMA
                          It happens only when the fighters short term stamina is shot right?
                          Yes.

                          When it goes below 10%, and then stays until it's above 30%.

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                          • chapmandachamp
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 379

                            #28
                            Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                            It will b round 3 with u at 50%+ stam vs a guy at 10% / min stam and if u don’t do a fancy hard combo to finish him u can gas to his level in one round. Just odd cuz how many real fights end in 4-5 piece combos?? I have many slip/ counter one punch finishes but a guy with that much lower stam needs lower block and slower back pedal


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                            • Serengeti1
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 1720

                              #29
                              Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                              Originally posted by chapmandachamp
                              It will b round 3 with u at 50%+ stam vs a guy at 10% / min stam and if u don’t do a fancy hard combo to finish him u can gas to his level in one round. Just odd cuz how many real fights end in 4-5 piece combos?? I have many slip/ counter one punch finishes but a guy with that much lower stam needs lower block and slower back pedal


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                              There's so many ways to make the fighter less effective. They should feel like a wounded animal that's REALLY got to fight to survive or win if they're as low as 10% (unless of course you're also very low). Currently that's not the case at all.

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                              • chapmandachamp
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 379

                                #30
                                Re: Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

                                That’s what I. Trying to say more or less. I out classes him got him low stam for that round 3 kill yet he still moves fine. Stil can spam strikes. But I don’t have the 4-5 combos down , specially in UT so all he needs in one slip counter and I’m down. But he’s gassed as ****. It’s odd


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