Stamina Barely Matters. Proof Inside.

[Stolm]

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Being damaged needs to cause way more stamina loss. I lose more stamina crushing opponents to the body with kicks than they do taking em.

[Serengeti1]

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Being damaged needs to cause way more stamina loss. I lose more stamina crushing opponents to the body with kicks than they do taking em.

That's just untrue. Body shots significantly decrease stamina.

[Stolm]

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That's just untrue. Body shots significantly decrease stamina.

Not enough.

And all damage should affect stamina, not just body shots. Being cracked and rocked repeatedly should fatigue a fighter too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdrt0MkQ02k

I chew my opponent up with kicks in this fight throwing 40 more strikes than him, but landing 60 significant strikes to his 9. And I am trailing in Stamina the whole time.

[emmdeekay]

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So I know with 100% certainty that overhands are too vulnerable. It usually shows up against uppers and leg kicks.

This was an overhand intercept.

I'm more interested to know if the others were as well, or if there's something else that's just getting too vulnerable.

To explain why, vulnerabilities stack.

Fwd moving, ducking, lead/back punch, etc.

And each strike has a vulnerability peak, based on its damage.

Overhands stack too many, and become too vulnerable and need to be tuned down.

To me getting timed with a flush counter upper in the middle of a really reckless strike by the most powerful striker in the weightclass should be absolutely catastrophic.

I think that looks sick I'll Paypal you 10 pounds to leave it as it is?

[AeroZeppelin27]

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That's just untrue. Body shots significantly decrease stamina.

Not on the ground they don't. Or they don't seem to. I've been trying to test body shots and stamina vs the CPU, its daaamn hard not to get uppercutted coming in for a body shot.vs the CPU, so I decided to go Khabib time vs Barboza, hold him down in half and elbow his torso endlessly (as you can't get a body TKO on the ground) each strike was draining his active stamina noticeablely, but had minimal effect on his long term, by round two he had 50% body health, and a full stamina bar, granted he threw very little, but I'd just held him down for five minutes denying all his transitions and elbowing his body and occasionally head into obscurity while avoiding a finish.

You can test this. I don't know if its deliberate, a bug or what. But that's my experience with body shots. I know they drain your stamina standing because I've eaten heeeaps and its slowly yet noticably whittled my stamina.

[Stolm]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOwyJA1mg6o

After a competitive first round, this guy got "annoyed with my style" and started yelling over the mic to finish him.

Beat on him for a round and a half, before he fully quit out. We both had identical stamina at the end....

So much for those body shots.

[Donnie_Brasco_FR]

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As GPD says, if you have a little bit of stamina, you cant do combos anymore like a full stamina bar.
And this make things less dangerous.

[TheGentlemanGhost]

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So the devs are saying there are no stamina issues and they won't look into any of this to fix the game...got it.

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[TheJamesKraus]

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This has nothing to do with stamina, your opponent is terrible so you have free shots at his chin. The power comes from his chin meter already being depleted from the shots before.

How many times did you rock/drop both opponents before this point?

Everyone seems to forget the new chin/stun meters that are hidden, they just put everything down to stamina.. ok I agree fighters should be more sluggish but as it is they are still one big shot and done.

[ZHunter1990]

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This has nothing to do with stamina, your opponent is terrible so you have free shots at his chin. The power comes from his chin meter already being depleted from the shots before.

How many times did you rock/drop both opponents before this point?

Everyone seems to forget the new chin/stun meters that are hidden, they just put everything down to stamina.. ok I agree fighters should be more sluggish but as it is they are still one big shot and done.

This. I have a feeling people are taking sigificant shots shots to the head, their opponents stamina gets low and they wonder why they are still getting rocked so easily.

[TheGentlemanGhost]

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This. I have a feeling people are taking sigificant shots shots to the head, their opponents stamina gets low and they wonder why they are still getting rocked so easily.

I think most of us are giving the KOs that are concerned about this. I was typically playing as Marc D if I wasn't Ferguson. Marc's stamina was horrible, but it never mattered, I'd have 50% or a little less of my stamina and still moved and striked just as fast as my opponent. Of course combos were just as fast.

I used to think, "well damn, I need to stop being Marc, his stamina is awful!" But I started to realize it was irrelevant if I can still pull off hyper speed combos and didn't actually get slower.

[Serengeti1]

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This has nothing to do with stamina, your opponent is terrible so you have free shots at his chin. The power comes from his chin meter already being depleted from the shots before.

How many times did you rock/drop both opponents before this point?

Everyone seems to forget the new chin/stun meters that are hidden, they just put everything down to stamina.. ok I agree fighters should be more sluggish but as it is they are still one big shot and done.

A couple of times at most (maybe while I had barely any gas too). I wasn't playing to win. I drained my stamina by throwing spinning kicks at air before this. I assure you there's much more wrong here than just the chin depletion mechanic. Try it mate. You can say it's a good player vs a bad player all you want... but pretty much all I'm doing is pushing forward with normal movement speed and duck/upper. All with great speed and power. He also can't hurt me. None of this is realistic or fair.

[YourFatZebra]

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I think most of us are giving the KOs that are concerned about this. I was typically playing as Marc D if I wasn't Ferguson. Marc's stamina was horrible, but it never mattered, I'd have 50% or a little less of my stamina and still moved and striked just as fast as my opponent. Of course combos were just as fast.

I used to think, "well damn, I need to stop being Marc, his stamina is awful!" But I started to realize it was irrelevant if I can still pull off hyper speed combos and didn't actually get slower.

I almost stopped playing as Felder for the same reason until someone watching me in the room pointed out that I was still faster than my opponent. It's very very noticeable in an actual fight. Especially with someone who wants to just wail on the buttons. I played a few fights against the younger siblings, had real issues with this. They wore themselves out near instantly just missing shots but it never felt like it even mattered. They were able to keep up with me regardless. This might not be such an issue between two skilled players, but in my opinion you shouldn't build something assuming skilled people will pick it up. It should be designed in a way that an unskilled person couldn't just pick this up and demolish a skilled player by hammering the buttons, throwing lightning speed punches that have no real effect on their stamina. I'm not saying this is how the game is, but in a general sense someone should not be rewarded for an unrealistic style of play. Makes it frustrating when you're trying to work a gameplan on someone who's practically banging the controller against their chest and they never slow down, never get weaker, and you pretty much are forced to play this bull/matador game with a bull that never gets tired.

[UOCgorilla]

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Yup stamina is a huge issue i admit its better than EAUFC2 but still could be tweaked a bit. There has been several times that someone just spams jabs and hooks and there seems to be very low stamina drain and if they get someone like Diaz hes fast and its hard to get shots off without getting hit. Now sometimes i can just block and wait for opening and hit em with a overhand but they just get right back to it..
I can counter this most the times with brutal KOs BUT i would like to see stamina make more of a difference. If someone is just spamming punches moving forward without making contact through the block there should be a huge noticable stamina drain to prevent this kind of play. I liked the idea of getting away from the rock em sock em robots from EAUFC2.

[Haz____]

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In a general sense, someone should not be rewarded for an unrealistic style of play. Makes it frustrating when you're trying to work a gameplan on someone who's practically banging the controller against their chest and they never slow down, never get weaker, and you pretty much are forced to play this bull/matador game with a bull that never gets tired.

This describes almost every single fight I had in BETA over the past week.