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  • Flashguard
    Rookie
    • Nov 2017
    • 76

    #256
    Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

    Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
    I can't recall, but if so...These finishes are a far and few still. But I don't really have an issue with some clean elbows ending fights in-game.

    It's a bit of a double edge sword, when you play better players you can have those long grueling GnP matches, but at the same time, should we be able to KO or even TKO even the worst of players with just 3 clean shots of GnP? There are definitely certain positions that just have way more power than they should.



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    To be fair, I do agree that those finishes are rare. I’m actually gutted that strikes after KOs have been removed...

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    • Faiered
      Banned
      • Jan 2018
      • 101

      #257
      Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

      So your telling me Ufc undisputed 3 for ps3 DEVS had resource for making the referee intervene but EA DONT!!!!

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      • TheUFCVeteran
        Pro
        • May 2016
        • 878

        #258
        Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

        Originally posted by Faiered
        So your telling me Ufc undisputed 3 for ps3 DEVS had resource for making the referee intervene but EA DONT!!!!
        Don't think it's a hardware issue at all, rather a budget issue. There is a ton more mocap being done for this than UD3 after all I'd bet.

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        • mikenyc721
          Rookie
          • Dec 2017
          • 71

          #259
          Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

          Are there gonna be any knockouts where the guy stiffens up and drops? if thats the case I can understand why you can't continue to beat on them but if the fighter just rag dolls and falls you should be able to follow up with 1-2 punches just to make sure there out! I also think the camera should stay where it is after a ko just for a half second more the fight seems to end abruptly

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          • tissues250
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 1526

            #260
            Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

            the best solution is they would make the ref's interaction animation.

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            • TheGentlemanGhost
              MVP
              • Jun 2016
              • 1321

              #261
              Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

              Originally posted by tissues250
              the best solution is they would make the ref's interaction animation.
              Yup! Every now and then on clean KOs from standup, maybe you can get an extra shot in, but I doubt they'll let you do much more.

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              • melo627
                Rookie
                • Aug 2015
                • 393

                #262
                Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                I really wonder how much money would it cost to make a ref run in a push the fighter away?like seriously?even without ref interaction I still want to get hits off after a ko just stop it after like 3 or 4 hits c'mon @gpd if this and ragdolls not back to normal id suggest you get ready for a battlefront 2 style boycott

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                • Solid_Altair
                  EA Game Changer
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 2043

                  #263
                  Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                  Originally posted by Faiered
                  So your telling me Ufc undisputed 3 for ps3 DEVS had resource for making the referee intervene but EA DONT!!!!
                  It's largely about the quality of it. Making it at the level of UD3 would not be an option, as it would stand out as looking robotic in comparison to the rest of the game. Keep in mind those UD knockdowns were fully animated (no ragdoll). That makes things much easier, I suppose.

                  And it's also about priority. As much as this is a cool feature, implementing it to the standard of quality of the animations in the game would have taken soome important features from actual gameplay.

                  We all want it and hope it will come sooner than later. It's still good to put it in perspective, though.

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                  • TheVirus
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 162

                    #264
                    Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                    Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                    It's largely about the quality of it. Making it at the level of UD3 would not be an option, as it would stand out as looking robotic in comparison to the rest of the game. Keep in mind those UD knockdowns were fully animated (no ragdoll). That makes things much easier, I suppose.

                    And it's also about priority. As much as this is a cool feature, implementing it to the standard of quality of the animations in the game would have taken soome important features from actual gameplay.

                    We all want it and hope it will come sooner than later. It's still good to put it in perspective, though.
                    I guess i'm just bringing it up because it's an interesting conversation point but do you (and anybody else really) feel UFC 4 will revamp the clinch and ground again to pair with the new striking to make an entire new game overall?

                    The new striking developed for UFC 3 might be one of the best striking systems I've seen in a MMA game, all we need now is clinch and ground worked on to be as smooth, fluid and 'chunky' as the stand up and this game series could seriously be "that" game everybody talks about years from now.

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                    • Solid_Altair
                      EA Game Changer
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 2043

                      #265
                      Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                      Originally posted by TheVirus
                      I guess i'm just bringing it up because it's an interesting conversation point but do you (and anybody else really) feel UFC 4 will revamp the clinch and ground again to pair with the new striking to make an entire new game overall?

                      The new striking developed for UFC 3 might be one of the best striking systems I've seen in a MMA game, all we need now is clinch and ground worked on to be as smooth, fluid and 'chunky' as the stand up and this game series could seriously be "that" game everybody talks about years from now.
                      IMHO, Integrated Submissions is the top priotity big feature for UFC 4. I'd put revamping the clinch on a close second place.

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                      • Reinfarcements
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 633

                        #266
                        Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                        Originally posted by Solid_Altair

                        We all want it and hope it will come sooner than later. It's still good to put it in perspective, though.
                        So I know you are not a Dev, and may not have any idea about this at all, but this statement sorta gave me a little more hope than it should have. Do you think something like this is possible via patches or free DLC packs? I hadn't even considered it being done in UFC 3 post launch, just kinda felt disappointed I'd have to wait 2 more years before it might be a feature.

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                        • Solid_Altair
                          EA Game Changer
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 2043

                          #267
                          Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                          Indeed I have no idea.

                          I wouldn't hold my breath for TBS to happen in a patch, though. I think it'd be a huge feature.

                          I remember the mourning process of when we were told UFC 3 would focus on the stand up to the point where they couldn't dev TBS. It was so sad. But I ended up agreeing with it.

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                          • Yaari
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 1496

                            #268
                            Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                            Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                            IMHO, Integrated Submissions is the top priotity big feature for UFC 4. I'd put revamping the clinch on a close second place.
                            I've yet to meet the first person that enjoys the clinch, says enough tbh.

                            I hope they'll revamp GnP in the next game too. I think Undisputed did it better. I don't really like having a posture up transition between it, makes you feel disconnected IMO. That's why I liked the Undisputed approach so much.

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                            • Solid_Altair
                              EA Game Changer
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 2043

                              #269
                              Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                              Originally posted by Yaari
                              I've yet to meet the first person that enjoys the clinch, says enough tbh.

                              I hope they'll revamp GnP in the next game too. I think Undisputed did it better. I don't really like having a posture up transition between it, makes you feel disconnected IMO. That's why I liked the Undisputed approach so much.
                              I enjoy the clinch. I think I value its strengths more than most, while caring about its weakpoints less than most. But I'm far from a clinch expert, so I don't count much.

                              I have cravings for GnP changes, too, but mostly visual, TBH.

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                              • Reinfarcements
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 633

                                #270
                                Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                                Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                                Indeed I have no idea.

                                I wouldn't hold my breath for TBS to happen in a patch, though. I think it'd be a huge feature.

                                I remember the mourning process of when we were told UFC 3 would focus on the stand up to the point where they couldn't dev TBS. It was so sad. But I ended up agreeing with it.
                                I wonder what the limit is for a title update in terms of memory? I think I've seen 10 GB updates before for games, I could be mistaken.

                                So if the memory ends up not being an issue (not sure if it is), they could work on this early post launch, create the feature and patch it into UFC 3, simultaneously having the feature on stand-by for UFC 4.

                                But I'm sure this would take away dev time from balance tweaks, new fighters, ect. Plus they may want to use Ref interactions as marketing for UFC 4. I'm not sure. I suppose I'm just a man trying to convince himself this is possible.

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